Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Paclitaxel

Paclitaxel
Voting period ends on 19 Sep 2012 at 06:52:47 (UTC)
 * Reason:Large clear model of paclitaxel. I'm not qualified to say that it's 100% accurate but I've compared it to the 2D model and I see a lot of agreement between the two.
 * Articles in which this image appears:Paclitaxel
 * FP category for this image:Featured pictures/Sciences/Biology
 * Creator:Itineranttrader

* Support as nominator --Pine✉ 06:52, 10 September 2012 (UTC) Withdraw Pine✉  18:36, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Oppose. I'm not sure that setting a precedent with regards to this type of diagram is a good idea. Further, this could reasonably be an svg. J Milburn (talk) 16:37, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Weak oppose as it could easily be an svg. I am not opposed however, to these diagrams becoming FP if they have enough EV, which this one does. -- WingtipvorteX  PTT   ∅  17:28, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
 * My worry is that just about any chemical notable enough to have an article can be (and usually is) illustrated by a picture like this. All of them have very high EV. Do we really want to promote them all? (Something similar comes up from time to time with flags, and could equally hold for a number of other things...) J Milburn (talk) 21:45, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
 * You are right. The average reader won't look at these pictures and instantly recognize which molecules they are. -- WingtipvorteX  PTT   ∅  18:16, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Change my vote to Oppose per J Milburn and my reply to his comment on my vote. -- WingtipvorteX  PTT   ∅  18:16, 12 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Replying to J Milburn's comment, "My worry is that just about any chemical notable enough to have an article can be (and usually is) illustrated by a picture like this. All of them have very high EV. Do we really want to promote them all?" I would reply that the same can be said about bird photos, and we promote tons of bird photos. This is not an easily drawn two dimensional image of a molecule, which I think would be more analogous to a flag. This is a three dimensional image that is not so easily created. I don't think we'd promote tons of two dimensional drawings of molecules or flags. I think the better analogy for a three dimensional model of a molecule is our current practice with bird photos. Pine✉ 08:12, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Oppose but three dimensional images are easily created: feed coordinates file to freely available visualisation software, rotate until it looks nice, press export. When there's a way of doing that for animals, let me know.  --99of9 (talk) 00:12, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
 * The last time I worked with 3D modeling software, which admittedly was some years ago, it would have taken me a few hours to create an image like this. Perhaps there is now software that quickly generates 3d images of any molecule from a 2d map, but I'm not aware of it. Pine✉ 05:32, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't post on here very often, but I wanted to say that 3D models can be created in ChemSketch, which is freeware. It has 3D optimization included, so you could presumably make this from scratch in about 10 mins. TerriG 137.73.38.169 (talk) 15:27, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
 * OK, thanks for that information. Based on that, I will withdraw this nomination. <span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#008C3A 0.1em 0.1em 1.5em,#01796F -0.1em -0.1em 1.5em;"><b style="color:#01796F;">Pine</b><sup style="color:#01796F;">✉ 18:35, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

--Makeemlighter (talk) 21:16, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Withdrawn by nominator. Makeemlighter (talk) 21:16, 17 September 2012 (UTC)