Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Pentagon Fireball

Pentagon Fireball

 * Reason:Yes, yes, I know the image doesn't agree the featured picture criteria (low resolution, jpeg artifacts, low techinal standards) but this is ONE-OF-A-KIND image of historic american event that will live on forever.
 * Proposed caption:Frame of security camera footage taken 20 feet away from where American Airlines Flight 77 crashed into the western side of the Pentagon on September 11th, 2001. All 64 people on board are killed, as are 125 Pentagon personnel. The section of the where the plane crashed was, at the time, being renovated, so most of the offices were unoccupied.
 * Articles this image appears in:


 * Arlington County, Virginia
 * September 11, 2001 timeline for the day of the attacks
 * List of notable accidents and incidents on commercial aircraft
 * Creator:Latitude0116, Noahcs


 * Support as nominator  Noah¢s   Talk  /  Contribs   02:19, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment I didn't even know that images of this event exist. Certainly a very powerful image. Too bad the quality is so low. – sgeureka t•c 02:53, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Oppose The quality is just too low. I'm willing to overlook a lot of technical shortcomings for a genuinely historic image, but I'm not sure this qualifies. The events of that day were certainly historic, but this image doesn't illustrate any of them.  Yes, there's a big fireball, but it could be a fire from anywhere at anytime; we can't see any details at all. Matt Deres 03:58, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Oppose Aside from the photo itself, I honestly don't believe that event happened. Kitkatcrazy 07:19, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
 * For anyone tempted, please remember: DNFTT. As for the vote - invalid. &mdash; BRIAN 0918 &bull; 2007-11-13 14:55Z
 * I think the vote's fine. I assume you're claiming it's invalid based on her second comment about the event, but the first part "Aside from the photo itself" indicates she is opposing based on the quality of the picture itself. --jjron 08:14, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I took the "aside..." comment to mean that aside from the existence of the photo, ... &mdash; BRIAN 0918 &bull; 2007-11-15 14:50Z
 * Good point, you might be right. --jjron 22:20, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment This is the only image of the pentagon attack that has been released - I've seen it in documentaries so I can vouch that it is indeed unique. There are about 4 frames of video (of which this is one) from the pentagon carpark security camera - hence the bad quality. And as for Kitkatcrazy, I'm pretty sure that's not a reason for voting on Featured Pictures... Witty Lama 14:15, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Oppose not particularly encyclopedic. I would also rather avoid an influx of related photos onto FPC. &mdash; BRIAN 0918 &bull; 2007-11-13 14:58Z
 * Support Yes, the quality is way too low, but the value of the image overwrites the quality problems for me.--Mbz1 15:32, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Oppose Every encyclopedic image does not deserve to be FP. This image is just too small. Muhammad Mahdi Karim 18:37, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Oppose, per Muhammad Mahdi Karim. --Aqwis 22:10, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Oppose The image is far from meeting size requirements, it has lens glare at the top-left corner, and there is no indication the building shown is the Pentagon. --Bowlhover 04:44, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment In response to Bowlhover's comment, this image was indeed taken at the pentagon on 9/11  Noah¢s    Talk  /  Contribs   03:47, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't think he was necessarily disputing that, rather just making the point that image quality is so poor you can't even see for sure that the building shown is the Pentagon. --jjron 07:52, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Oppose per Muhammad Mahdi Karim. H92110 (talk) 02:39, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

MER-C 02:39, 19 November 2007 (UTC)