Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Personal computer, exploded 6

Personal computer, exploded 6

 * Reason: This began as an effort to replace this image and ended up as the mother of all computer diagrams. It shows many common peripherals and also system and application software. It uses numbered labels, but if English is desired I can do that too. I used Image:Personal computer, exploded 5.svg as a starting point, but I consider the result so different that it deserves its own nom, rather than a delist and replace sort of thing (which will happen separately pending promotion of the new image). See Nom of original and Picture Peer Review.
 * Articles this image appears in:Personal computer
 * Creator:HereToHelp (original by Gustavb)


 * Support as nominator --HereToHelp (talk to me) 20:25, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose The mp3 player is branded. We should stick with no advertising on Wikipedia. Please make it generic. Papa Lima Whiskey (talk) 21:23, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Secondly, if you're going to include an mp3 player, then where is the digital camera, where is the personal digital assistant (PDA), where is the card reader, where is the web cam and where is the modem? All of these are at least as important as an mp3 player, and some are less peripheral than an mp3 player. Whether you want to throw a graphing pad into the mix, I leave up to you. Papa Lima Whiskey (talk) 21:29, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
 * And this is not strictly necessary, but it would be nice to show a fan. The components won't live long without one. Papa Lima Whiskey (talk) 21:33, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Someone seems to think that ATA sockets are important. Those particular ones are probably out of date (I seem to recall that S-ATA are much smaller than that), so a revision might be necessary. Papa Lima Whiskey (talk) 21:36, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I tried a webcam back at PPR but it didn't turn out well. (Unless you want a lens in the monitor.) The modem is just a box (much like the external HDD), and what exactly does a generic portable mp3 player look like? Would it just be easier to take it out?--HereToHelp (talk to me) 21:46, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
 * That might be a good solution, actually. Papa Lima Whiskey (talk) 21:51, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
 * As in, remove the iPod, or as in, add the lens in the monitor as a webcam?--HereToHelp (talk to me) 22:00, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Remove iPod. Papa Lima Whiskey (talk) 00:15, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose Aside from product placement, this is a very old and general representation of a computer system. If it were just an image of a computer ATX case exploded, fine. But people now have a diverse range of systems. People have MFC often instead of separate scanners and printers. People have all in ones (iMac, XPS One) instead of box and screen combos. I don't know why this image is of any value, the only part that would be interesting "exploded" is the case. Capital photographer (talk) 01:00, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment Okay, the iPod is gone. Capital Photographer, would it help it I exploded the parts of a scanner and printer? I've been so focused on the details (is this perspective correct?--Apparently; nobody has commented) that I missed the big picture. If the consensus is for a major overhaul of the presentation, I could focus on one task--say, word processing--from keyboard to printer. But I'll leave this up and see where it goes.--HereToHelp (talk to me) 02:15, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
 * The problem is the image is called "Personal computer, exploded". Why does anything other than the case and screen have to be present. Everything other than the computer case/tower is a peripheral, with the possible exception of the display. Overall, this image tries to do everything, but nothing is done well. We get no real insight into anything present. If the image were to focus on the case and possible the display only, the essentials of a personal computer, it would allow for much more useful detail. Where the FSB, CPU, RAM, PCIx, system board and all the other internals of a computer are. The current FP is focused and accurate. It could use a few more inclusions, but nothing more external to the case.Capital photographer (talk) 04:28, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment, I really liked the original FP... for yours I kind of think 1) we don't need to explode the case if we're showing all external components otherwise. 2) the speakers are too big and look like home theater ones and not (average) PC ones. I like this idea though... gren グレン 08:14, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Not everyone has 5.1 surround sound on their computer? ;) 8thstar 19:33, 31 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Support - Regardless of quibbles over the mp3 player, it is better than the current FP. (and my L and R speakers are that size)Teque5 (talk) 04:09, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose - inaccurate, confusing at times, peripherals are not really necessary and there are still major perspective problems (speakers). —Vanderdecken∴ ∫ξφ 10:00, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose I don't like it, I think it looks too cluttered, the current FP is more than enough for me. Also not all PC's have these items --Hadseys 23:05, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment - Perhaps it would be much more encyclopedic in Peripheral? -Halo (talk) 09:06, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Having thought about it Strong Oppose - There seems to be licensing issues that you've derived from multiple images with incompatible licenses and then relicensed it again - that's not allowed and makes this a copyright violation. The scanner also looks rather out of proportion and misaligned to the rest of the image, as well as the lid being disproportionate in size compared to the rest of the scanner. There is also several peripherals missing (MP3 player, digicam, webcam, tablet) which could improve the image and make it more comprehensive and as such this isn't really a very encyclopedic image. -Halo (talk) 09:13, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

MER-C 09:17, 6 June 2008 (UTC)