Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Peugeot 206 WRC

Peugeot 206 WRC

 * Reason:This is an image of rallying (WRC) action on snow, and I think it succeeds in depicting that very well. It seems to meet the criteria and is quite eye-catching too. I was planning to nominate this after uploading, but was a bit unsure until now, when I noticed this is a candidate on the German Wikipedia and currently has unanimous support.
 * Articles this image appears in:Peugeot 206, Swedish Rally, World Rally Championship
 * Creator:Christopher Batt (Flickr)
 * Nominator: Prolog


 * Support &mdash; Prolog 14:50, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Support Definite "wow factor", but barely of size.--HereToHelp 15:50, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Support and Comment This is a Flickr photo, so there might be a larger version if someone can contact the photographer (no idea how that works on Flickr). ~ trialsanderrors 18:52, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Support Finally a good car photo. Amazing. And I'll be very happy to see a larger version. Many thanks to the creator for the licence. --Arad 20:40, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Whomever contacts him/her for a larger file please be sure to thank them for that.--HereToHelp 21:32, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I have contacted and thanked the creator through FlickrMail. Thanks for the comments. Prolog 22:31, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Strong Support. I was blown away by this picture the first time that I saw it on someone's userpage. One of the most interesting racing pics that I have ever seen (that from a huge racing fan!). RoyalbroilT : C 04:12, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Support. Wow.  howcheng  {chat} 05:53, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Support. Wow, indeed. --Janke | Talk 08:22, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
 * support per nom and above. Debivort 08:30, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Support per the nomination. Wow.  S .D.   ¿п?  § 12:50, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Oppose Cool picture, but fake (or at least heavily altered). Observe the snow at the bottom left around the fender - some displays motion blur, whereas other is crystal clear.  Driver shows impossible lean (his whole body is tilted such that his lower extremities would be somewhere on the gearshift; if properly harnessed, his head would be tilted, but not his whole body).  In the upper right corner in the background snow there has been some heavy cloning (notice lack of smooth color gradation versus, say, the car itself). Noraad 14:26, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment. I have to disagree with your rationale for proving this is a "fake". Observe the snow at the bottom left around the fender - some displays motion blur, whereas other is crystal clear. - Easy to explain: The snow particles that have a trajectory straight towards the camera would not be blurred. I can't see any other definitive proof of editing, either. --Janke | Talk 15:13, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment. I can reply more as a long time rally follower and less as an image expert, but I see absolutely nothing bizarre about this image. Pykälistö's shoulders and head are in the position those are supposed to be, when landing a high speed "yump" on two wheels on a road like that. Rally drivers are not glued to their seats and they have room to move around a bit and do tricks like Scandinavian flicks, opposite locks and handbrake turns, as you can see for yourself from footage on YouTube. I see neither proof of altering nor can I think of any motive to do so. The action in the image is pretty common, even if capturing it well is not easy. Prolog 16:16, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment. I understand about camera and trajectory, et al. And I doubt there is any definitive proof of anything; but there are suspicious elements to the picture. Also note the wheel in the lower left of the picture. There seems to be something of a transparent fender - you can clearly see a motion-blurred wheel where you shouldn't be able to. Yes, I noticed that the fenders are damaged, understand that suspension or transaxle might be broken, etc., but viewing other pictures of Peugeot 206 rally cars says to me that something is not right with that wheel. I realize that this is only my opinion on the picture; perhaps someone should contact the creator of the image. --Noraad 16:03, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I ran it through the bag of tricks I know to detect Photoshop tampering, but I don't find any strong evidence. The image might've been sharpeneed, but I don't see evidence for cloning. The fender is ripped into pieces, that's why you see the tire peeking through. ~ trialsanderrors 19:20, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Okay, I trust your expertise there. I like the picture, and have no problem with it being featured as such.  I would like to see a larger version, which would make for a better image and allow for closer examination, but I will by no means stand in the way of it being featured -- Noraad 20:24, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Does't look tampered with. the snow that is crystal clear as opposed to the motion blurred snow is moving directly at the camera so that its position as percived by the lens doesn't change in the time of exposure and is a fairly common sight. -Fcb981 00:00, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Support If anyone thinks this photo is tampered with, I would encourage them to seek out some other top-level rallying images. You might be surprised how often surreal "effects" miraculously happen when vehicles are in such radical conditions.  Still, this is a well framed and cropped example with good color and visual impact. - Plasticbadge 22:32, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Support Tomer T 20:56, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

--KFP (talk | contribs) 19:18, 7 March 2007 (UTC)