Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Presidents of the United States (1789–1909)

Presidents of the United States (1789–1909)
Voting period ends on 12 Oct 2014  at 22:42:38 (UTC)

Restoration by Godot13.
 * Reason:High quality, high EV (presented as a set), from the same BEP presentation album as the featured set of U.S. Treasury Secretaries. This set of Bureau of Engraving and Printing (BEP) engraved portraits depicts the first 26 Presidents of the United States from George Washington (1789–95) through Theodore Roosevelt (1901–09) spanning 120 years. Several of these portraits have appeared on United States paper currency and bonds. All of the images appear in the US Treasury specimen book article and 24 of 25 appear in their respective individual articles, generally in the presidency section.
 * Original:A 25-image set of high resolution BEP engraved portraits depicting the Presidents of the United States for the first 120 years of the office. From a BEP presentation album reportedly given to Treasury Secretary Lyman Gage (c. 1902).
 * Articles in which these images appear:US Treasury specimen book (all), Art and engraving on United States banknotes (9), List of Presidents of the United States (11), and one each in Presidency of George Washington, John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, James Monroe, John Quincy Adams, Martin Van Buren, William Henry Harrison, John Tyler, James K. Polk, Zachary Taylor, Millard Fillmore, Franklin Pierce, James Buchanan, Abraham Lincoln, Andrew Johnson, Ulysses S. Grant, Rutherford B. Hayes, James A. Garfield, Chester A. Arthur, Grover Cleveland, Benjamin Harrison, William McKinley, and Theodore Roosevelt.
 * FP category for this image:Featured pictures/People/Political
 * Creator: Bureau of Engraving and Printing


 * Support as nominator – Godot13 (talk) 22:42, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Support - Very useful. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:32, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment - On my monitor and to my untrained eye, the background on some of the images is striped at thumbnail size, though this is not apparent when looking at a larger version. This particularly applies to Tyler, Polk, Lincoln, McKinley and Roosevelt, but to a lesser extent some of the others. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:59, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi Cwmhiraeth- I've enlarged and re-spaced the thumbnail images to reduce the effect somewhat. However (and someone please correct me if I'm wrong), thumbnail images are a means to open the files themselves and aren't part of evaluating a nomination.--Godot13 (talk) 07:24, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
 * My thumbnails aren't showing up like that, oddly enough. Usually the striping effect is from halftoning or similar printing processes, though I don't think I've ever seen engravings get striped. What browser are you on? That might affect it. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:24, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I think Cwmhiraeth's referring to the moiré patterns which are quite visible at some sizes e.g. McKingley at 226px. --Paul_012 (talk) 10:27, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
 * That makes sense. I believe that's an artefact of MediaWiki's downsampling of JPEGs, rather than something wrong with the file itself (any engraving has the possibility of creating a moire pattern). Since FPs are judged according to full size only, that's fortunately not too big of an issue. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:34, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Moiré patterns seem a good explanation for the phenomenon. Happy to support this nomination. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 15:05, 3 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Support - Spent some time looking at Arthur at full size, trying to puzzle out exactly how the engraver(s) went about their work- for example the edge of his collar is roughly drawn, with maybe three lines, which contrasts oddly with the precision of the shading lines. yes, I have got a life  Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 11:24, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Support - Superb quality, historically invaluable, and an asset to Wikipedia as an Encyclopedia. -- (Aside comment: Engravers almost always use a model for their engravings. For example, the engraving here of Washington was modeled after a painting by Gilbert Stuart. This is the same portrait used for the engraving on the one dollar bill and on a number of postage stamps. (Example). It would be nice to add such notes in the file summaries of these images in the future, per available information.) -- Gwillhickers (talk) 01:56, 4 October 2014 (UTC).
 * Thanks Gwillhickers, definitely on my list of things to do. I started here for the vignettes. Thanks.--Godot13 (talk) 03:21, 4 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Support useful. Hafspajen (talk) 22:24, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

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