Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Saturn Devouring His Son

Saturn Devouring His Son
Voting period ends on 24 Mar 2012 at 04:29:05 (UTC)


 * Reason:High resolution and quality, high EV... and perfect for Halloween!
 * Articles in which this image appears:Saturn Devouring His Son, Black Paintings, Saturn (mythology) and more
 * FP category for this image:Featured pictures/Artwork/Paintings
 * Creator:Francisco Goya


 * Support as nominator --Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:29, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment Obviously FP material but I'm not keen on the caption. Its one of his many untitled works (this might give the impression that it his only untitled work), the exact measurements aren't really important as they probably aren't the original dimensions, and "towards his death" seems odd, especially as he later moved to France and continued painting; he lived for at least 5 years after completing the Black Paintings. Yomangani talk 00:22, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Better? Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:55, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Crisco, I have tweaked the capt somebit, but its a messy one to get into so many words. Regardless, its an excellent reproduction, and an amazing image. Well done and txs for bring it here. Ceoil (talk) 02:59, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Alright, much, much, much longer then. Votes welcome, of course... Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:05, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Spelling touched up. Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:06, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Trimmed for your pleasure. Ceoil (talk) 03:19, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Perfect, thanks. Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:46, 17 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Oppose-- We studied this piece in great detail in my art appreciation class last semester. I and quite a bit of the rest of the class came to the conclusion that the work is mildly disturbing yet utterly lacking in meaning. Some even said it appeared to have been painted with nothing in mind other than baseless shock and provocation. If this is the emotion the artist meant to provoke, I can't say he didn't accomplish that. Enthdegree (talk) 04:53, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Although you may be correct, I don't think its status as an FPC should be determined by its artistic meaning and emotional response to the image, according to the featured picture criteria.  Spencer T♦ C 05:13, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
 * We're not supposed to play art critic at FPC for works which are individually notable themselves. See, for example, this. There's another where it was debated heavily, but I don't have that link available. Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:22, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
 * The biggest issue is that I don't think it is striking enough to interest the reader. This picture does not make me want to learn more about the painting, the series of paintings, the artist himself or even Spanish culture. Enthdegree (talk) 13:03, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
 * That's a little closer to the FP criteria, but I think your experiences studying art may be affecting how you see it. How would a lay-person (i.e. one who has never studied art) look at the image? Would they want to know about the painting? I think yes. It's not used in the Goya article or in an article about Spanish culture, so that's neither here nor there. As for the image not being interesting, it seems there are 10 users who have it in their user space. One has it on a page labeled "Favourite artworks", so it's clear that there are people who enjoy this painting. Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:13, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Support Tomer T (talk) 16:24, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Support. Definitely one of Goya's most notable works. O.J. (talk) 19:17, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Support. a13ean (talk) 19:19, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Support. High quality scan, very significant work. Ceoil (talk) 22:24, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Support extra 999  ( talk )  17:11, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Support One sick mofo, but art. Aaadddaaammm (talk) 18:08, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

--Papa Lima Whiskey 2 (talk) 10:05, 24 March 2012 (UTC)