Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Second Punic War (3)

Map of Rome and Carthage at the beginning of the Second Punic War
Voting period ends on 13 Jun 2012 at 12:10:56 (UTC)
 * Reason:I hope it isn't bad form to nominate an image a third time (previos noms: 1, 2) but clear work was done to improve the image during both nominations and the image received some support (~3.5 supports) and by the end of each nomination no opposes. SVG file, good source. The label "Spain" was removed, but appears in some versions (no idea why) of the thumbnail. If you see it, render the file in another size.
 * Articles in which this image appears:Second Punic War and Campaign history of the Roman military (contributes strongly); Roman Republic, Po Valley raid Battle of Utica (203 BC) (useful but not essential).
 * FP category for this image:Diagrams, drawings, and maps
 * Creator:William R. Shepherd, original; User:Grandiose SVG version and alterations.


 * Support as nominator -- Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 12:10, 4 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Support Contributes excellent EV. I haven't seen a limit anywhere on how many times a picture can be nominated. Dusty 777 17:05, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment. I don't feel qualified to actually vote on this or any maps, but it seems unusual to me to have the 10° W and the 20° E longitudes on the left and right hand sides mixed amongst the N latitudes. Is this standard practice? Also wondering about the words in all-caps; again is this standard practice on Wiki? --jjron (talk) 06:28, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't see how you can avoid having the latitude label on the side, if you're going to have it at all (which I have argued in favour of in previous nominations). I don't think it's confusing; they're clearly labelled. All caps is suggsted by the project for seas; in the case of the other areas it is needed to distinguish types of features. Previous nominations attest to repeated comments about the indistinguishably of things from each other and removing the all caps would surely make this much worse. Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 09:33, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I haven't read all the previous noms, but I would have just thought you'd not put those two longitude labels at all, after all they are already labelled at the top. And not confusing? Well maybe not, but I was thinking you'd mislabelled something till I figured out what you'd done, and I'm not a complete idiot. All caps for MILES and KILOMETERS? Nonetheless, I realise the difficulty there must be in distinguishing between things, but I still haven't worked out why some things are in all-caps and others aren't, although to be fair I haven't read the article and tried to match it to the map. However I would have thought there was some standard guidelines for labelling, and MOS:CAPS generally advises against it. Anyway, as I say I simply don't know enough about it, so I'll just shut-up now. :) --jjron (talk) 09:45, 10 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Comment: The map's caption in our Second Punic War article says "Italian cities and Celtic tribes which joined Hannibal after the invasion of Italy are depicted in Blue", but the only things depicted in blue are water features. --Avenue (talk) 16:01, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

--Makeemlighter (talk) 17:13, 13 June 2012 (UTC)