Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Sleeping koala

Sleeping koala

 * Reason:High resolution encyclopedic image. Supplements existing koala FP Image:Koala climbing tree.jpg by showing the species at sleep in a well-composed shot.
 * Articles this image appears in:koala
 * Creator:Sanjay ach


 * Support as nominator -- Durova Charge! 21:19, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Support Excellent image! This is highly focused and highly encyclopedic. I just love the detail in the fur. Elephantissimo (talk) 21:28, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Support: per Aww, aint it cute ...... Dendodge  .. Talk Help 21:42, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Support large, technically sound image which is is a good illustration of what the animal spends most of its time doing. Slightly blown areas (or is it my monitor?) on the arm don't detract. Guest9999 (talk) 22:07, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Support Very nice, catchy image, with lots of details of the koala, fur, claws, varying textures, depth, in a typical activity. Did you pay it for the pose?  --Blechnic (talk) 23:08, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Was going to compensate it in eucalyptus leaves, but then I docked its pay for sleeping on the job. ;) Durova Charge! 23:34, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment. Everyone seems to be rather overlooking this almost identical existing FP. Now there's no rule about not having two FPs of the same topic, but when they're this similar? Can I suggest this should have been done as a "Delist and Replace", especially given the existing one seems to have been dumped from all articles? --jjron (talk) 04:36, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I like them both. Why was the other one, which shows more of the face, dumped from all articles?  --Blechnic (talk) 04:38, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Who knows? You'd have to go back through the histories, and maybe find a reason. I notice Durova replaced another picture with her nomination in the article here just before nominating, and quite likely someone else replaced the existing FP with the one Durova replaced. Incidentally, the one Durova replaced was put up for FPC last July - see Featured picture candidates/Koala sleeping. --jjron (talk) 04:50, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
 * This image is better than the one it replaced in the article, which is appropriate, but that's kinda sideways to the question of why the other FP, so similar to this one, is still a FP, but has been removed from articles. Koals are, imo, just too damn cute.  And these pictures take the cake.  But, they are similar enough that there should only be one or the other, and while the one is right now a FP, this second should not be nominated, or the nomination should be a choice of which one.  --Blechnic (talk) 05:23, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, I did notice the one this replaced was a previous FPC. IMO this has better composition and color, as well as very good file size.  Hadn't noticed the other sleeping koala that passed (why are koalas so darn cute?)  Should I nom that for delist?  Durova Charge! 07:04, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
 * It's not just koalas, all Australians are that cute ;-). Anyway, as I said above, this whole nom should probably be a "Delist and Replace". --jjron (talk) 08:45, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
 * The cute factor is because they sleep so much. Are Australians sleepy people :)? Muhammad (talk) 17:25, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Or are you suggesting we're only cute when asleep? :-) --jjron (talk) 14:49, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment Shouldn't this be a replace nomination? I don't see how one of these two possibly has any additional EV over the other, as they're exactly the same pose, against the same background. And in reply to jjron, yes there is a rule. A picture must add value to an article. If two pictures are the same, one of them doesn't add value. Papa Lima Whiskey (talk) 18:19, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Generally I agree with this, the pictures are just too close for both to be in an article, and for both to be FP is not possible. I like the claws in the current nomination, but like the face in the current FP.  I don't care which one is it, but there has to be just one.  Durova, I think this needs withdrawn, then decide how to handle it. I vote support for whichever cute as hell sleeping koala is nominated. --Blechnic (talk) 18:36, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Maybe we should keep in mind that one of them is already an FP and doesn't need to be renominated. Papa Lima Whiskey (talk) 18:52, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
 * That'a correct, that's why i think Durova needs to simply withdraw this one to start with. If he/she then wants to nominate the second one that can be done, along with withdrawing the existing one, but this FPC should be stopped, until some decision is made.  --Blechnic (talk) 00:32, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
 * As I pointed out originally there's no rule to not have two FPs of the same topic (or in this case three, given the Diliff one that Durova originally linked to), but these two are rather too similar and should not both be featured. That being said they are not both illustrating the same article (one is illustrating no articles), but it is possible they could both be featured if they both successfully illustrated different articles. --jjron (talk) 14:49, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Support Replacement - the background of the nomination is more natural. Cacophony (talk) 21:43, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, it looks like the lesson of this nomination is to let sleeping koalas lie! If I'd realized we already had a sleeping koala FP I would have started this differently.  Apologies there.  The proposed version is about ten times the file size of the current FP.  So I'll follow whatever is the most advisable course: move this to delist/replace?  Suspend this nom for a delist vote?  To any bold admin who wanders by, here's your chance to be bold.  I pre-approve any reasonable solution you think of. :)  Durova Charge! 01:25, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I also hereby pre-approve any workable solution that makes the issue more clear cut, and hereby cast my support vote for whichever cute little koala gets FP status. --Blechnic (talk) 01:40, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Promote and Replace. The image currently undergoing FPC of higher quality and composition than the current FP. Nautica Shad es  03:08, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Promote and replace. Probably the best way forward for this nom. Papa Lima Whiskey (talk) 11:36, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Replace The candidate has better background and resolution than the current featured picture. Narayanese (talk) 17:20, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

with Image:Sa-sleeping-koala.JPG. MER-C 04:35, 27 June 2008 (UTC)