Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Sonia Sotomayor

Sonia Sotomayor
Voting period ends on 19 Aug 2011 at 07:22:19 (UTC)
 * Reason:Very high EV, good composition, appears in many places on English Wikipedia
 * Articles in which this image appears:Sonia Sotomayor, List of United States Supreme Court Justices by time in office, Portal:Supreme Court of the United States/Selected biography/8 2009 term United States Supreme Court opinions of Sonia Sotomayor, 2010 term United States Supreme Court opinions of Sonia Sotomayor, J. D. B. v. North Carolina, List of Puerto Ricans, List of federal judges appointed by George H. W. Bush, South Bronx, Portal:Barack Obama/Selected biography, Portal:Barack Obama/Selected biography/7, Portal:Supreme Court of the United States, Portal:Supreme Court of the United States/Selected anniversaries, Portal:Supreme Court of the United States/Selected anniversaries/August, Portal:Supreme Court of the United States/Selected biography,
 * FP category for this image:Featured_pictures/People/Political
 * Creator:Steve Petteway, from the Collection of the Supreme Court of the United States


 * Support as nominator --  Pine (was GreenPine) talk 07:22, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Support Meets criteria in my view. JJ Harrison (talk) 11:07, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Support per nom.  ■ MMXX  talk  18:12, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Support very good. Perhaps the portals should be removed from the "articles this image appears in" and list only those that it provides EV to (South Bronx I suspect is low on the list) Matthewedwards : Chat  19:43, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Support What do the other justices' portraits look like. Is a group of 9 portraits feasible?  upstate NYer  03:55, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I looked for portraits of the other justices but other than this photo, none of the photos that I found on Wikipedia meets the minimum size for featured picture.  Pine (was GreenPine)  talk 05:34, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment Something strange going on near the left side of her face... Makeemlighter (talk) 01:12, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
 * By left do you mean right? Because there's something very strange there which (in case anyone's thinking it) is not a DOF issue. --jjron (talk) 06:35, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Of course. Whenever I say "left", I really mean "right" :) Makeemlighter (talk) 22:35, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
 * So if we're ever in a car together, remind me not to rely on you for directions. ;) --jjron (talk) 05:36, 14 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Oppose based on the above. In particular for whatever that 'growth' of pseudo-skin coming out near her right eye is. I can only think it's some really sloppy cloning or healing brush error. --jjron (talk) 06:37, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Response I think what you are seeing is caused by very thin, pale hair on her face. See also the photo on http://www.newyorkpersonalinjuryattorneyblog.com/category/sotomayor. The hair goes all the way down to her chin. Pinetalk 08:13, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Not sure what we're meant to be looking at on that other image; it's too small to make out much. But that's more than facial hair. There's that bit that sticks out, but in reality the whole side of the right cheek is damaged from about the level of her mouth up. The bit that really sticks out near her eye may have once been (part of) her ear. I can only think someone was doing some healing work in Photoshop to touch up her skin, perhaps even trying to cover up errant facial hair which does appear that it may have been there, and for some reason botched it without realising. If it was just the original hair it would be better defined as the skin further forward and the hair behind it are both more clearly focussed. --jjron (talk) 13:58, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I think what you're seeing on the upper left is the ear partially obscured by the facial hair, and the facial hair continues down to her chin. For comparison, look at the other side of her face where the ear is clearly visible. You can see very thin hair on that side also. When I zoom in on the image, I don't think that what we're talking about is caused by a bad editing because the hairs go in different directions, the texture is consistent on both sides of her face, and slightly thicker hair consistent with sideburns is visible on both sides near her ears. Also, I doubt that a Supreme Court staffer would have attempted to retouch this image when there's no strong need to do so and it's not something that taxpayers would appreciate paying a government staffer to do. Justice Sotomayor has no PR motive to alter her image, unlike other celebrities and government agencies in some circumstances, such as happened with General Dunwoody's photo http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7738342.stm Pinetalk 21:10, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose per above. It certainly looks like a botched edit. And even if it's not, the strangeness means I can hardly call it one of our finest images. Makeemlighter (talk) 22:35, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
 * If we're calling Dilma Rousseff's photo a Featured Picture with the strange effects on the subject's nose in addition to similar looking hair on her face, I find it very difficult to understand why the photo that I'm nominating would get opposition. Pinetalk 23:20, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
 * You're totally right - Dilma Rousseff should not be an FP, which is why I opposed that one too. FWIW though, the problems with that one are quite different. --jjron (talk) 18:07, 13 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I'd find it more suspicious if there wasn't a bit a facial hair or some other imperfection. We're not after SI swimsuit issue pictures here.--RDBury (talk) 08:31, 13 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm not really seeing it. JJ Harrison (talk) 13:16, 13 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Support. Extreme high-res shots of middle-aged people will show uneven skin surfaces; I'm not convinced we're seeing anything else here.  I'm tempted to upload a macro shot of my own ear just to make the point, but I'll refrain. Chick Bowen 23:42, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Great comment! :) Thanks Chris. Pinetalk 04:30, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

--Makeemlighter (talk) 22:54, 21 August 2011 (UTC)