Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Sulfur mining

Sulfur mining
Voting period ends on 24 Oct 2017  at 01:02:27 (UTC)
 * Reason:High quality image of a striking and often covered subject: the mining of sulfur at Ijen using traditional methods
 * Articles in which this image appears: Sulfur, Ijen
 * FP category for this image:Featured pictures/Culture, entertainment, and lifestyle/Culture and lifestyle
 * Creator:Candra Firmansyah


 * Support as nominator – — Chris Woodrich (talk) 01:02, 14 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Oppose – Questionable EV; I've seen much better pictures of sulfur mining. Furthermore, the image is confusing; what are those "sewer pipes" on the slope? No explanation in the caption. They are hardly natural... --Janke | Talk 09:22, 14 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Pipes are usually drained into the rock for drainage during rain. You'll see the same thing in rock faces near toll roads etc. I'm assuming it's to prevent landslides. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 23:40, 14 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Apparently not... I got curious and did a bit of research, it looks like the pipes are installed to guide sulfur vapors and condensing them, thus being an integral part of the mining, not just for draining water. See: [] --Janke | Talk 15:13, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Very interesting! Thanks for the link. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 01:38, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
 * I thought I was the only one who got curious (vote below), apparently not :) Bammesk (talk) 01:45, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Oppose – Per Janke. This image conveys very little useful information. Sca (talk) 14:01, 14 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Oppose Per opposition. --PetarM (talk) 18:11, 14 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Oppose per others. I can see a possible FP in a closeup of the two man, but from this image it would be too small. Daniel Case (talk) 02:43, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Support While I respect the views of the other editors above, I have to disagree. I think that this is a striking image of the unsafe conditions the miners work in. Images available on Commons taken closer to the miners don't really capture the scale of the hostile environment they face. As the composition is good, the image is technically solid and the overall photo has strong EV, I think that the FP criteria are met. Nick-D (talk) 09:47, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Support per Nick. I feel that this image portrays a perfect view of what miners suffer with every day. The image also shows us (the Wikipedia users) a darker side of the world around us which is nice as well. I also feel that the quality of said image is top notch as well! Goveganplease (talk) 19:43, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Support – the image has good EV in This article (added it above), there is a section about the manual process, ceramic pipes, fumes, workers, pay, etc. I reorganized the images in the article (so the nom image is no longer in a gallery). There are lots of sources here: . This source: describes the pipes, quote: "Inside the pipe network, the sulphur condenses ...", and this source  has a good photo of the pipes: . Bammesk (talk) 01:33, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Support Bammesk put some more into it. I change my mind, at the end, to get this photo is also helath risky. --PetarM (talk) 09:13, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
 * If the caption is amended with info about the pipes, thus increasing the EV monumentally, I'll change my vote to support! --Janke | Talk 11:42, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Done. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 12:48, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Support – Changed my vote as promised. I also moved the caption to the articles, and changed your parenthetical remark to "facilitating"... --Janke | Talk 15:28, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

--Armbrust The Homunculus 05:50, 24 October 2017 (UTC)