Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Tower warders, Under orders

Yeoman Warder (Tudor State Dress)
Voting period ends on 27 Dec 2012 at 23:15:22 (UTC)
 * Reason:Our only photo of the best-known Yeoman Warder costume, and the one rarest worn in modern days, the Tudor State Dress uniform.
 * Articles in which this image appears:Yeoman Warders
 * FP category for this image:Featured pictures/People
 * Creator:Detroit Publishing Co., restoration by Adam Cuerden


 * Support as nominator -- Adam Cuerden (talk) 23:15, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Support Unusually good recoloring Shii (tock) 03:53, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
 * The Detroit Publishing Co. were usually pretty good. =) Adam Cuerden (talk) 09:15, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Support striking both at thumbnail and full size. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:07, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Weak oppose : the recoloring is good, but there are still parts that are distracting. For example, the door knocker stands out too much, and the door handle (to the bottom-left of it) hasn't been recolored in relation to the door. The man's complexion also seems somewhat unreal. All of this has to be put in historical context, of course, but you say that it is one of the "rarest worn in modern days", which suggests that it is still worn and could still be photographed, in colour, without the problems. Googling it turns up what appear to be a considerable number of photographs: 1, 2, 3. Has some potential as illustrating dress a hundred years ago, but that must surely be limited in context. Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 23:41, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
 * This isn't a "recolouring", this is a historical colouring. The colouring dates from 1895, before proper colour photography was available, and is one of the first techniques for mass reproduction of coloured photographs. Also, there's a difference between a Yeoman of the Guard and a Yeoman Warder. Unless they are at the Tower of London, they are not Yeomen Warders. Adam Cuerden (talk) 23:51, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
 * My mistake, Adam. I'm now neutral because I'm not yet convinced of the historical EV. In terms of illustrating the uniform, there are still modern examples online without the albeit historical flaws above, e.g. the one here marked Ceremonial Dress less Shoulder Belt. That excluded, I'm not sure the EV of a Warder from c.1895 on its own. Some, but I'm not sure it's enough. Hence the neutral. Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 17:11, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh, no worries. One issue I do have to grant is that the Yeoman Warders article suffers badly from recentism. The organization has been around about five centuries, and the article is almost exclusively focused on the last 50 years. I suspect a properly-developed article would give this image more importance, but as things stand, I think it serves a purpose and at least begins to bring the history back a little. Adam Cuerden (talk) 20:58, 23 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Support per Adam's clarification above, valuable historic photo anyway. Brandmeistertalk  13:16, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Support Tomer T (talk) 16:30, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Support even if we can get a more recent photo of the same uniform, the fact that we have a photo of this uniform in use in a relatively historical setting adds EV. --Pine✉ 05:11, 31 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Support Fairly good quality, high EV. Cat-five  t  c   11:28, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

--Armbrust The Homunculus 02:38, 2 January 2013 (UTC)