Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/USS Arizona after attack on Pearl Harbor

USS Arizona after attack on Pearl Harbor
Voting period ends on 29 Jan 2012 at 00:38:48 (UTC)
 * Reason:Another version is already an FP, I believe this version has better quality.
 * Articles in which this image appears: Attack on Pearl Harbor, USS Arizona Memorial, Maritime history, Equipment losses in World War II, Infamy Speech, Pacific War
 * FP category for this image:History/World War II
 * Creator:Unknown


 * Support as nominator --  ■ MMXX  talk  00:38, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment Since these are the same image, the way to go here is a delist/replace nom. Makeemlighter (talk) 00:50, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment this images does not appear in the articles listed, or any other article. --Guerillero &#124; My Talk  01:02, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
 * As Makeemlighter said, if selected as FP, it is going to replace with current FP which is already on those articles, I have nominated the current FP for desisting.   ■ MMXX  talk  19:06, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment. This should definitely be a delist/replace nomination. However, I don't to see that much difference between the two versions. The old version has some dust issues but might have more detail. O.J. (talk) 02:21, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Where exactly the current FP has more details than this edit? I might be able to fix it, the edited version has only lost some clouds, but the ship itself has better details IMO.  ■ MMXX  talk  23:17, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep for now (or Oppose if you like) Neutral now based on new edit. Each has some advantages. However, to me the newly offered edit appears to have undergone either considerable cloning or aggressive noise reduction in the sky (perhaps a bit of both), and significant sharpening and contrast adjustment on the lower part to bring out more details (sorry, the image page does say it's been retouched, but it doesn't say what's been done, so I'm having to make some guesses). While that work has succeeded in bringing out some details better, it has also brought out a lot of extra noise/grain and artifacting in the smoke clouds and importantly on the ship itself (increased artifacting could be a side effect of the saving technique too). The work done on the sky has also been overdone in my opinion, making it look unnatural with too much loss of texture that's there in the other version (especially the smoke plumes in the top left-hand corner, but not just there). I appreciate the work put in, but for now I'd personally say stick with the existing one. --jjron (talk) 15:06, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your comment, I've uploaded a new version over the edited file, this time I've kept the sky and the sea untouched by masking them, also I tried to reduce the noise/grain problem on the ship.  ■ MMXX  talk  01:35, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
 * The new version of the edit (or new Original in terms of this nom) is indeed an improvement on the original edit. I haven't quite decided yet whether it's enough to Support the Replace or not, but I'll change my !vote to Neutral. --jjron (talk) 04:46, 25 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Support. I believe this one is an improvement over the original FP. O.J. (talk) 02:57, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Support, does appear to be a whole lot cleaner than the current FP. As an aside, would have thought it should also appear on the USS Arizona page...  Nik the  stoned  11:04, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Support Replace current with this one. Clegs (talk) 11:38, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Delist and replace and someone write me a postcard on why we have to do this twice over. Papa Lima Whiskey 2 (talk) 20:26, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

--Makeemlighter (talk) 01:18, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Dealing with this at Featured picture candidates/delist/USS Arizona after attack on Pearl Harbor. Makeemlighter (talk) 01:18, 30 January 2012 (UTC)