Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/United States Silver Certificates (complete set)

United States Silver Certificates (complete set)
Voting period ends on 2 Mar 2014  at 20:28:14 (UTC)

First issued in 1878, silver certificates were in use until 1968 but are still redeemable as legal tender. The nominated set contains an example of every type (design) issued. The 1878 $50 and $1,000 are represented by colored-seal proofs from a Bureau of Engraving and Printing specimen book presented to John Sherman during his tenure as Secretary of the Treasury. There are only two issued examples of the $50 known to exist and the $1,000 is unknown in issued form. The 1878 $500 is unique. Images of the 1878 $500 and $1,000 are missing from most major numismatic reference books. Seven notes have already been featured individually as indicated by a. They have been included only for completeness and are not part of the present nomination.
 * Reason: High quality, very high EV. This is a complete typeset of United States Silver Certificates and served as the impetus to significantly rework and fully reference the article.

Original – A complete typeset of United States silver certificates.


 * Articles in which these images appear:Silver certificate (United States) (all, stable), one or more images (stable and recent additions) in use on United States one-dollar bill, United States two-dollar bill, United States five-dollar bill, United States ten-dollar bill, United States one hundred-dollar bill, Educational Series, List of United States Presidents on currency, History of the United States dollar, Stephen Decatur, Edward Everett, Robert Fulton, Thomas A. Hendricks, Daniel Manning, William L. Marcy, James Monroe, Robert Morris, Running Antelope, Sioux, Martha Washington, William Windom.


 * FP category for this image:Currency

From the National Numismatic Collection, NMAH, Smithsonian Institution. Images created by Godot13 (from the original bank notes).
 * Creator:The Bureau of Engraving and Printing


 * Support as nominator --Godot13 (talk) 20:28, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Do you thinkt he early ones would benefit from some light restoration? Just to remove the large rip lines? Adam Cuerden (talk) 02:41, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
 * My concern with restoration is that the image will no longer be an exact representation of the actual note (i.e., condition) which is an important factor in numismatics (not to mention to the Smithsonian). These are also the images which will be entered into their archives for eventual use on their website; it would be problematic if the Wikipedia images don't match the Smithsonian images.
 * Good reasons, then. Support Adam Cuerden (talk) 03:39, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
 * I've been mulling over this one for the better part of an hour. Large sets of images are, while not entirely uncharted territory, something that appears to be happening increasingly often. This is, I think, the largest set ever proposed (although I seem to remember having seen a nomination for a massive set of maps when I was going through the archives once). There are questions that this nomination brings up that I do not feel prepared to answer. Foremost among are "is there value to promoting a set so large that it can only ever be used as a gallery, wherein the individual impact of any one image is heavily diluted" and "if several of the images in the set, alone, don't have a high enough educational value that I would consider supporting them as featured pictures, how does that effect how I vote on the set as a whole. I haven't answered those questions yet (which means if you have a good argument for one of those questions, I'd like to hear it). Sᴠᴇɴ Mᴀɴɢᴜᴀʀᴅ   Wha?  04:09, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
 * This was the largest set I found in a cursory review of proposed or promoted sets. Promoting a set this size does not, IMHO, mean that it can only be reproduced en mass as a set. Any subdivision (Series) or single image could be used as needed for illustration. Each image in this set is intended to be an exemplar of its type (particular design). I did not attempt to include all varieties in the article (or this set) as that would have been unnecessary and not encyclopedic (and numbered well over 200). The vast majority of the images in this set are (with respect to condition) among the finest that exist, or they are the very first note issued by the Treasury, or they are so rare as to make condition irrelevant. Having been involved with numismatics for 20+ years, I am certain that many of these images will wind up on related websites or in future editions of reference books. I considered breaking this down into several nominations, but then it defeats the purpose of having every U.S. silver certificate design type represented in a single encyclopedic nomination. My plan is to do the same thing for all the major categories in U.S. numismatics (rework/improve or write list-articles and pair them with complete reference sets of images), though it may take a few years… I hope this answers some of your questions. --Godot13 (talk) 04:41, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Part of the value of featured sets is that they allow us to feature images which have EV that depends on other media. The adage that the sum of the parts is greater than the whole is the true importance of sets; not just expediency in nominating large volumes of similar media. The best example of that might be this plate. On its own, it is nearly worthless-a largely blank page. In the context of the other 7 illustrations, it forms an irreplaceable part. With currency, like this nomination, it important to remember that the notes were created as a series and are thus strongly related. The referenced set of maps makes sense as a set because the visual rendering of different projections allows for comparison between them, not merely demonstrating a single fact. In spite of all this, we do not have to ensure that every image makes the front page. It would be redundant and boring.
 * Also, for the sake of curiosity, the gargantuan nomination of maps was 47 images, the same number as this one. But, 7 of these are already FPs. Count it as you may. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.222.132.240 (talk) 21:43, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Support - Knowing Godot, the article is likely to be an FL in a couple months, and that speaks mountains for having a solid set. Let me worry about the POTD run in a year and a half. That's not for FPC to grow grey hairs over. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:56, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Support J e e  07:42, 22 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Support NiceCurrency (talk) 12:40, 24 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Support Saffron Blaze (talk) 18:41, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

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 * Additionally the following previously featured images are also part of this new set: File:US-$1-SC-1891-Fr.223.jpg, File:US-$2-SC-1896-Fr.247.jpg, File:US-$5-SC-1899-Fr.271.jpg, File:US-$1-SC-1935-A-Fr.2300.jpg, File:US-$1-SC-1935-A-Fr.2306.jpg, File:US-$5-SC-1934-A-Fr.2307.jpg, File:US-$10-SC-1934-A-Fr.2309.jpg. Armbrust The Homunculus 21:03, 2 March 2014 (UTC)