Wikipedia:Featured portal candidates/Portal:Geography


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured portal candidate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the portal's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured portal candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The portal was promoted by OhanaUnited 18:43, 1 May 2013.

Portal:Geography

 *  Notified: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Mountains, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Science ‎, Portal talk:Geography, Australian Wikipedians' notice board, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject South America, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Geology, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Europe , Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Oceans, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Geography, User talk:Cirt , Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Antarctica, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Asia, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject North America , Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Africa. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 21:28, 4 February 2013 (UTC) 

Self-nomination. See archived peer review. I believe the portal meets the standards for Featured Portal status. Thank you for your time, &mdash; Cirt (talk) 21:22, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

Apologies in advance:


 * Selected articles should all be roughly the same size as each other, give or take a half line or so, in order to make sure that the random selection does not overly effect the shape of the portal itself. Therefore:
 * Selected articles 1, 5, 7, 21 through 25, 27, and 30 are all too short
 * Selected articles 8, 11, 16, and 16 are too long.
 * Selected biographies should also all roughly be the same size as each other. Selected biographes 2, 10, 14, and (to a lesser degree) 17 are all too short.
 * Selected quotes 1, 3, 19, 20, 21, 26, 28, 29, and 30 are all primarily focused on things other than geography. Of those listed, perhaps only 21 is passable.
 * The DYKs for PlumpJack Winery, Lympstone Commando railway station, Nanjing Massacre Memorial Hall, Craigiehall, Yorkshire Museum, opt-outs， John Grant's， Douglas County Courthouse， Schuster Building, beer museum, Ballard Carnegie Library, and Altes Stadthaus all strike me as being too distantly related to Geography to warrant inclusion.
 * Portal:Geography/DYK/23 is incomplete

That's quite a bit to do, but I think that it all needs doing before this can be called an FPO.  S ven M anguard Wha? 01:04, 11 February 2013 (UTC) Thanks very much for the specific suggestions, I'll get on some of these recommendations soon, and address it back here. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 05:44, 11 February 2013 (UTC) Hopefully this is satisfactory, &mdash; Cirt (talk) 19:59, 12 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Reply to comments by Sven Manguard
 * 1) Selected articles = swapped out some where I could, elsewhere expanded text of others.
 * 2) Selected bios = swapped out the shorter ones.
 * 3) Selected quotes = swapped out those that were complained about, above.
 * 4) DYKs = swapped out those that were not up to the satisfaction of the reviewer, above.


 * I'm still seeing a very large variance between the largest and smallest selections in some of the randomized sections. Take a look at this screenshot from Portal:Massachusetts. All of the items are, when the image and everything is factored in, almost the same size. This allows for a very consistent layout for the portal itself. The selected article on Karnataka is almost twice the size as the selected article Mount Tambora when it appears in the Portal:Geography main view, and that throws things out of alignment. I really don't care what size you choose, as I am notorious for using larger than traditional sizes for my article blurbs, what's important is that you keep all of the selections that are in the same "Selected ____" roughly the same size. If you give me a few days, I'll be able to update you as to if I can get more hands on in fixing it, but I can't make any promises now. I haven't looked at the other sections yet, I can do that later.  S ven M anguard Wha? 19:34, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you for offering to help fix this, I really appreciate that. I'll look into it a bit more as well and make some more fixes. Keep me posted here, &mdash; Cirt (talk) 19:42, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

On an unrelated note, would it be possible to use template:wide image for the panoramas? We'd need two separate format templates, but I don't think any of the portal syntax would have an issue with that. Thoughts?  S ven M anguard Wha? 01:47, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Perhaps you can try it out and update here with a link, as an example? &mdash; Cirt (talk) 02:01, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
 * You're asking me to do something that requires actual knowledge of templates. I can't do that; all I can do is "borrow" existing code.  S ven M anguard Wha? 02:11, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Well, there's an example at Portal:Oregon/Selected panorama. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 02:18, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

Would you be willing to credit me as a co-nominator if I go in and even out all of the articles, and do some miscellaneous other repairs?  S ven M anguard Wha? 05:47, 9 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Sure, that would be lovely, thank you for the help! &mdash; Cirt (talk) 22:09, 9 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Huzzah! Now I can work extensively on it without feeling like I have a conflict of interest when I cast a support vote. Weird, entirely self imposed ethical quandary avoided! <b style="color:#207004"> S ven M anguard</b> <small style="color:#F0A804">Wha? 23:28, 9 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Okay, sounds great. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 04:50, 10 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Support. As nominator. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 04:50, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

The four bios I am thinking of adding are Richard Hakluyt, James Tod, Shen Kuo, and George Cressey. The first three are FAs, the fourth a GA (I'd prefer an FA if one can be found though.) <b style="color:#207004"> S ven M anguard</b> <small style="color:#F0A804">Wha? 05:09, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Below is the stuff I will be doing over the next . <b style="color:#207004"> S ven M anguard</b> <small style="color:#F0A804">Wha? 04:58, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
 * All looks great, as long as we stay quality of WP:GA or above. :) &mdash; Cirt (talk) 22:20, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
 * The image at George Cressey's article is non-free, and I can't think of either a good free replacement or a good replacement person. I've done the other three, and I'm going to punt the 20th bio down the road until the rest is done. <b style="color:#207004"> S ven M anguard</b> <small style="color:#F0A804">Wha? 00:06, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Maybe we could find a different bio instead of George Cressey, one that happens to have an available free use image? &mdash; Cirt (talk) 01:51, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Changed the sizes of all of the images. Selections 25 and especially 26 and 27 really don't have good dimensions, but I did what I could. 3/5ths of the tasks I wanted completed are done. <small style="color:#F0A804">This is also <b style="color:#207004"> S ven M anguard</b> 22:17, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
 * With the addition of Fridtjof Nansen, we now have 20 biographes, all FA quality, and all within a third of a line in size from each other (on the smaller screen I'm using to do this). <small style="color:#F0A804">This is also <b style="color:#207004"> S ven M anguard</b> 22:42, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

Oh, and while I origonally had no intention of claiming Wikicup points for this, after spending six hours reading through every FA quality bio I could find before getting to Nansen (why couldn't his name have been Fridtjof Ansen?!), I sure as hell am going to claim points now. :S <small style="color:#F0A804">This is also <b style="color:#207004"> S ven M anguard</b> 22:45, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
 * THANK YOU very much, things are looking a lot better, major quality improvements. Thanks again, &mdash; Cirt (talk) 23:51, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't (formally) have OCD, but I have enough of the tendencies that it makes portalcraft a natural fit for me. I only wish that I had more time to do it. Alas, RL commitments keep me away too often... <b style="color:#207004"> S ven M anguard</b> <small style="color:#F0A804">Wha? 05:21, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Yeah, agreed that portal quality improvement is fun stuff. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 14:54, 21 March 2013 (UTC)


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