Wikipedia:Featured sound candidates/Assassination of Alexander of Yugoslavia

Assassination of Alexander of Yugoslavia

 * Articles: Alexander I of Yugoslavia, Louis Barthou


 * Reason: This is a very historical footage as it shows the assassination of King Alexander and including the crowd and police beating up the assassin at the end. It is one of the most notable peices of newreal in exsistance. It is used in his article and Barthou article.

Nominate and support. Spongie555 (talk) 03:51, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose Sorry Spongie, but while it is certainly a notable event and it's very interesting to see it on film, the sound is awful in places (especially the musical sections). I don't think it has a place as a Featured Sound for that reason; I think it would certainly be a good candidate for a Featured Video though although the transfer has been done pretty badly. I'll see if the Mpeg2 version is any better.Ben (Major Bloodnok) (talk) 18:57, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Comments: it's the voice-over as well as the introductory music that is not in good shape, but it's not a deal-breaker for me. Can the audio be improved? BTW, who, at en.WP or Commons or somewhere else, is the guru/expert on sound-file improvement? I'm sure there are applications that can do better than ogg at improvements. Second, the script is ... well ... a bit POV. I noticed this in the other newsreel file currently under nomination. To what extent will the angles taken by the voice-over be taken as WP's views? Tony   (talk)  13:42, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Newsreels are propaganda at its best. I may do a Reward board offer to find one that is NPOV. --Guerillero &#124; My Talk  20:31, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Exactly; surely no-one takes the images at Nazi propaganda to be WP's opinion? Certainly newsreel was POV, but that was typical of its era. I don't think we should discount it for POV reasons. To comment further on my first post, the original transfer from 16mm (or whatever stock they were using) has been done pretty badly by whoever did it; the MPEG2 file shows similar problems to the OGV file we have, so I can't support it as an FS. I could possibly support it as an FV when the time comes for that... Ben (Major Bloodnok) (talk) 22:19, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Do you guys feel that the caption of such a newsreel needs to function partly to position the voice-over as a particular viewpoint? There are ways of doing that which could work smoothly. Tony   (talk)  15:29, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Weak Support My standard on this one was whether an audio file of this content would stand as an FS. I listened with the video off and felt that I would support just the audio track. Given that we are dealing a historic event on a topical area in need of representation (non-musical and non US or UK history), I am supporting this regardless of video quality (or lack thereof). I think an audio file should be created for the reader as an alternate file. I am on a slow connection at the library and the video file took about 7 or 8 minutes to load.  I know some people still even use dial up so we need to be considerate.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 22:42, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Not promoted --Guerillero &#124; My Talk  04:18, 17 July 2011 (UTC)