Wikipedia:Featured sound candidates/Fantasia in F minor

Fantasia in F minor

 * Reason: Aside from the usual Whitehouse.gov audio file clicking, this file is a superb sound file with respect to Featured sound criteria.


 * Creator: Whitehouse.gov
 * Articles in which this recording appears: Fantasia in F minor (Schubert), Awadagin Pratt, Piano four hands

Not promoted. — James (Talk • Contribs) • 5:40pm • 07:40, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Nominate and support. TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 00:20, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - Not complete, as it does not contain the second and third movements, which are basically the meat of the work. It sounds frankly jarring because the start of the 1st and 4th movements are identical. This performance is the equivalent of a 400-page novel with pages 101–300 cut out. Graham 87 06:05, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Before I even saw Graham's post, I'd decided to make a similar comment. I want to know why we only have two movements? Surely they recorded all four ... mysterious. On a broader note, is this a matter that should be dealt with in the criteria? I believe single movements from multi-movement works have been promoted before. Should this be discouraged? I ask without having formed a clear opinion. The Bruckner motet, for example, was promoted as a stand-alone two weeks ago; he wrote a whole batch of them. Tony   (talk)  14:12, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
 * See the video at the source. It looks continuous to me. This is a small part of a 1 hour workshop concert.  It is an abridged performance. If I knew enough about the music to chop this into two pieces and nominated them separately, I think they would be considered. If someone could tell me the time when the first movement ends. I could chop this into two files, which might seem more appropriate.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 14:35, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
 * No, it wouldn't be in this case, because the Fantasia is meant to contain four movements played without a break. See the full recording in the external links section. I think the promotion of single movements is more acceptable when there's generally a break between those movements in a standard performance. Graham 87 15:07, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I do not understand what full recording you are instructing me to look at.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 19:14, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
 * It's the second link in the external links section of the article Fantasia in F minor (Schubert). The trio of the 3rd movement (starting from 10:45 in that recording) is one of my very favourite musical passages of all time! Graham 87 02:51, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose I have just listened to the original recording; they only play the 1st and 4th movements. I think Tony1 is right that we should have a discussion elsewhere about the issue of parts of artistic works being assessed separately from the whole, but unless it is usual for the 1st and 4th movements to be played in this way omitting the 2nd and 3rd mvts then I have to oppose on EV grounds since this recording cannot usefully illustrate the article. The clicking is terribly annoying, although I managed to remove it with Sound Forge while wondering whether I should support or not. Major Bloodnok (talk) 20:11, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

