Wikipedia:Featured sound candidates/File:Ich bin ein Berliner Speech (June 26, 1963) John Fitzgerald Kennedy

File:Ich bin ein Berliner Speech (June 26, 1963) John Fitzgerald Kennedy
"Ich bin ein Berliner" is one of John F. Kennedy's more famous speeches. It occurred at the Rathaus Schöneberg on his visit to the Berlin Wall on 26 June 1963. This file contributes significantly to the following articles:


 * Ich bin ein Berliner
 * John F. Kennedy
 * Berlin Wall
 * Rathaus Schöneberg


 * This file creation was difficult. Of the three video filetypes at the source, only one plays audio and video remotely synchronously in the software that I trimmed the length in. Then when outputting the trimmed file, if you output to .mp4 the audio does not make it through the .ogv conversion so one must output the trimmed file to .mov. I did not attempt to clean the original file of any defects other than trim the beginning and end, making a 9:37 original 9:01.9.  There is an audio version of this speech that is already a WP:FS.  There is also already a JFK color video of another speech that is sharper in its audio but has a much more remote camera angle. Nominate and support. TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 22:30, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
 * The following text from the audio file FSC discussion apply here:

There are indeed some sound artifacts in the recording. The reason for this is that we do not have the complete recording of the Kennedy speech in this recording. We are missing about half of it; most of the German translation is missing, and some of the English. The "cuts" in the original audio file introduced a variety of clicks and other strange sounds. This is not the fault of Wikipedia editors, since this edited version is the only public domain version that is available. From the Kennedy Library website :


 * This text is the version published in the Public Papers of the Presidents: John F. Kennedy, 1963. Both this text and the audio version of this speech ommit the words of the German translator. This audio file was edited by the White House Signal Agency shortly after the speech was recorded. The White House Signal Agency was charged with recording only the words of the President. The Kennedy Library has an audiotape of a network broadcast of the full speech, with the translator's words, and a journalist's commentary. Because of copyright restrictions it is only available for listening at the Library for reasons of private study and scholarship.

Of course, filters could be created to reduce the size of these clicks and other audio discontinuities, at the cost of actually obscuring some of the information content. In particular, it is important to note that about half of this speech is missing. The clicks and other audio artifacts are a reminder of that, and are of historic interest. --Filll (talk | wpc ) 22:27, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment File:Jfk berlin address high.ogg is already a FS. I don't think that the video part adds anything that the audio can't --Guerillero &#124; My Talk   22:58, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
 * In each of its uses, do you expect the reader to select the video or audio more often?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 00:09, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
 * The vid adds so much more to the readers' experience than the audio alone. Any reason both couldn't be featured. I'm not (yet) commenting on the audio artefacts, though. Any easy way of removing the black strip down the left side? And finally, structurally, how does one determine whether this should be a FSC or a FPC? Tony   (talk)  02:13, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
 * That one's easy, at least from my understanding. Videos where the main focus and encyclopedic value is in the audio, such as a presidential speech, a recording of a piano performance, or (in the case of the two Russian videos) a performance of a song overlayed with patriotic imagery get put in the FS pile. Videos where the main focus and encyclopedic value is in the visual, such as a video of aurora borealis, a technical animation, or a butterfly in flight go in the FP pile. Videos with substantial encyclopedic value in both the sound and the imagery, such as a fireworks display, a bird performing a bird call, or if we're wonderfully lucky, a professional film piece (assuming Disney ever stops playing with copyright laws) then I see no reason why one file cannot be both an FS and an FP.  S ven M anguard   Wha?  05:51, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

N.B. this is up for discussion at .--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 06:37, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Edited to fix a page wraparound error. Adam Cuerden (talk) 14:28, 7 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Oppose the audio version of this speech is easier to understand and listen to. While the video add to this speech it can not overcome the clarity issue.--Guerillero &#124; My Talk  &#124;  Review Me  03:39, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm going to try to screencast the video (but not audio) from the presidential library and overlay the clear audio on top of it. All I need is a good screencaster. Thoughts?  S ven M anguard   Wha?  07:37, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Not promoted --No consensus.  S ven M anguard  Wha?  21:44, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

