Wikipedia:Featured sound candidates/January 25, 2011 State of the Union Address (Barack Obama)

January 25, 2011 State of the Union Address (Barack Obama)

 * Reason: This is a standard piece of history that meets all Featured sound criteria.
 * I feel this is another situation where both an audio and a video could be at FS. The audio is more than 50MB smaller and would load much more quickly for many readers on slow connections. In addition video is not a viable technology for some readers.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 17:00, 2 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Creator: Whitehouse.gov
 * Articles in which this recording appears: 2011 State of the Union Address & Timeline of the Presidency of Barack Obama (2011)

Not promoted. —  James ( Talk •  Contribs ) • 6:41pm • 08:41, 30 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Nominate and support. TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 06:05, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Above is a video version that I have added. I did the best I could considering the 100MB limit. It is the lowest quality video possible and the highest quality audio that would fit under 100MB. Since the audio quality is pretty respectable, I think it meets our standards. I Support both audio and video.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 16:42, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I oppose the video. The picture is small and blurry. Also ,the blue bar that take over half of the screen. The audio version has stunning clarity. I support it. --Guerillero &#124; My Talk  18:22, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Per Guerillo on the video. As for the audio, it's over one hour long. What makes it "among our best work"? How do we distinguish political speeches that qualify for featured status; why not make every political speech in the world featured? Tony   (talk)  09:42, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
 * That is what WP:WIAFS is for. Every political speech nominee that meets the criteria is suppose to pass. In all likelihood, almost all State of the Union Addresses will pass, IMO. They will all be professional quality production and execution and thus likely to meet WIAFS.  Go to GAC. Yes all The Simpsons  episodes that meet WP:WIAGA will pass.  Sure we will have a ton.  Sure WP:FT and WP:GT will eventually be overrun with them.  However, they all meet the criteria and we should pass them.  We do not seek variety by constraining their promotion, but by attempting to encourage others.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 11:28, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
 * So what's to stop another editor coming up with some bog-boring speech to the Manitoba parliament? Why should this one be promotion material, and the other not? We really need clearer criteria to guard against a possible waterfall. Otherwise, I'm tempted to be WP:POINTY and waterfall this process myself. Tony   (talk)  07:37, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose The aspect ratio is all wrong, and the blue box which takes up half the image is distracting. While I appreciate this is the best we can do, I just can't support a video of this quality. A state of the Union address is of obvious importance, so I could support an audio-only version (there is one on the 2011 State of the Union Address page) if the quality was right. I just can't sit through over an hour of bad quality video. I gave up after 1 minute and 30 seconds. Discussion of having both the audio and the video versions as FS is taking place elsewhere. Ben (Major Bloodnok) (talk) 21:33, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Please judge against WP:WIAFS. Boring is POV.  Every subject is boring to some.  This is a process where we will get many political speeches.  Just evaluate them.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 08:13, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Support audio, oppose video. Good EV, but video is not high quality.TCO (reviews needed)  01:23, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose video. Weak oppose on audio. Video: we have technical standards to maintain. Technical modifications need to be made to the MediaWiki software to better support HD video (or even SD) streaming. Fails enough miserably #5 to not even consider any other bullets. Audio: I do not understand what is so special (especially notable) here. The US president makes a State of the Union address each year, as it is mandated by the Constitution they vow to serve. There was nothing historic about this address, AFAIK, or at least such seems way too soon to obecjtively assess. offtopic rant: Actually, the speech seems like one big FAIL, as he doesn't seem to remember to mention that he is leading the World's most indebted country in an obstinate political stalemate while waging two crazy wars and shutting down the only thing his nation could feel proud of. // end offtopic --hydrox (talk) 00:26, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose video. Weak oppose on audio. Video: we have technical standards to maintain. Technical modifications need to be made to the MediaWiki software to better support HD video (or even SD) streaming. Fails enough miserably #5 to not even consider any other bullets. Audio: I do not understand what is so special (especially notable) here. The US president makes a State of the Union address each year, as it is mandated by the Constitution they vow to serve. There was nothing historic about this address, AFAIK, or at least such seems way too soon to obecjtively assess. offtopic rant: Actually, the speech seems like one big FAIL, as he doesn't seem to remember to mention that he is leading the World's most indebted country in an obstinate political stalemate while waging two crazy wars and shutting down the only thing his nation could feel proud of. // end offtopic --hydrox (talk) 00:26, 28 July 2011 (UTC)