Wikipedia:Featured sound candidates/Overture di ballo

Overture di ballo
As stated above, Overture di Ballo, which predates all of Arthur Sullivan's collaborations with W. S. Gilbert, is regarded as Sullivan most successful orchestral work. This piece is part of the band's 1991 recording, Overtures. This file adds significantly to the following articles:
 * Arthur Sullivan
 * Overture di Ballo
 * United States Marine Band


 * Nominate and support. TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 04:01, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
 * My God! I've worked on most of the G&S articles on Wikiepdia, and would never have expected to find this. =) Will give a review tomorrow, when I've had time to run it against the score. Adam Cuerden (talk) 22:10, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Description page issues - What does trans. mean, anyway? I've been presuming transcribed, but it could be transposed or several other things. It'd be useful to know. Other than that, Support Adam Cuerden (talk) 03:58, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
 * My experience with the word comes from having had a cousin (who was my roommate at the time) who transcribed Jelly Roll Morton recordings and such for Wynton Marsalis and Lincoln Center when he was in graduate school. Basically it means to put the audio into written form. Lincoln Center has tons of recordings, that have never been put into sheet music form.  Suppose the audio was a recording of a twelve piece band. My cousin would listen to the audio and write the respective sheet music for each of the twelve pieces.  So he would sit there and write note for note all the trumpet music, then all the piano music, then all the alto sax music, etc.  Eventually, he would have the sheet music for an entire recording of twelve pieces.  He would then give this to his boss (Marsalis) who might then arrange it for his Lincoln Center band that may or may not be a 12 piece band.  Alternatively, Marsalis just might have his band play almost exactly what my cousin transcribed. I don't remember if the Lincoln Center band arranged the music or just played what my cousin transcribed.  I was just excited to go watch them play all the stuff my cousin use to sit in my living room writing on paper. P.S. once my cousin took me with him to Wynton's apartment for gumbo after a Lincoln Center performance. I am pretty sure eating gumbo has nothing to do with transcribing or arranging, however.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 13:27, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Ah, I see that the Richard Wagner booklet you link above says "transcribed" in full. I suspect, given that a full score was published for this, that it's just crediting the person who did the slightly less difficult, but just as arduous task of transcribing a set of parts from the full score - which means this is the original, and that's wonderful. =) Adam Cuerden (talk) 21:04, 13 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Ah. Just ran this up against the full score. Some of the repeats are meant to be for strings, but strings don't appear, so this is a military band arrangement. That needs mentioned, but it's otherwise very good. Given there's whole sections of this which are woodwind and brass alone, that's less of a problem than it might be. So long as it's noted, this is well worth featuring. Adam Cuerden (talk) 21:49, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

Promoted Overture di ballo.ogg — James (Talk • Contribs) • 12:57pm • 02:57, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment—The SDP says "transcribed", but I suspect it had to be arranged (that is, the notes changed, redistributed, rather than just cut and pasted for performance by non-string instruments of equivalent pitch-range. Does the caption say it's an arrangement in the articles in which it appears?  Tony   (talk)  11:42, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Sullivan's scores were generally published in many arrangements; I'd presume this is one of these arrangements, which someone turned into band parts for them. I believe the arrangements were generally done by the publisher, though no arranger is generally credited. Adam Cuerden (talk) 14:38, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Arrangements can have their own copyright, so even through the original composition is in the Public Domain does not mean this arrangement is. Zginder 2011-05-01T02:44Z (UTC)
 * But anonymous 1870s arrangements are (and that's presuming it wasn't done in house by the army). I can't actually find any publication details for such an arrangement, so, as we know that the Army does things in house, we should probably presume this was one of these. Most military bands that have been around a long time have whole libraries of hand-written arrangements by long-gone band members, for which no credit could ever be assigned by now (I've sung with the British Navy's band occasionally). Adam Cuerden (talk) 12:23, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support Sounds good, played well, and notable. The only thing which would concern me is the nature of this arrangement; Adam's comments have reassured me on this point. Major Bloodnok (talk) 21:09, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

