Wikipedia:Featured sound candidates/Two Spanish Civil War songs

Two Spanish Civil War songs
You know, we don't have any acoustic guitar songs yet, and this recording of two Spanish folk songs is high-quality and free to use. Shoemaker&#39;s Holiday (talk) 05:47, 7 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Nominate and support. Shoemaker&#39;s Holiday (talk) 05:47, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support: Very high quality, suitably licensed media that would make an excellent Featured Sound, in my opinion. Den dodge | Talk Contribs 19:20, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose. Please listen to the real thing on Youtube Los cuatro generales-puente de los franceses. It's not really a folksong, though the tune is apparently traditional. (As one commentator said on Youtube: "Forma parte de nuestra historia, gracias por subir la canción.") The 'artsy' version (above) is not representative of one of the great popular songs of the civil war. Tap your feet - or rather march - to the original!-- Klein zach  23:33, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, I'm not quite sure how a guitar-and-solo version of Los Cuatro Generales is more "artsy" than the multiple instrument version that you link to. Admittedly, several more instruments are added for "Viva La Quince Brigada", but that's not the folk song you linked to. Is there something I'm missing? Shoemaker&#39;s Holiday (talk) 14:53, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes. The title above is Two Spanish Civil War songs. The Youtube version (of the first song) is authentic (Civil War period) the other one is not. (There may be different texts as well.) Are you promoting this as a war song or as a folksong? Obviously different criteria apply. -- Klein zach  02:21, 9 September 2008 (UTC) P.S. Of course my comments apply to the second song as well.
 * Oppose The file is uncategorized and there is no lyrics given. Zginder 2008-09-08T02:39Z (UTC)
 * Fixed! Shoemaker&#39;s Holiday (talk) 11:36, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Neutral until I have a better chance to look at it. Zginder 2008-09-08T14:31Z (UTC)
 * Support I have no idea what the oppose is about and as such I can support. Zginder 2008-09-20T02:49Z (UTC)


 * Oppose: Well, I'm spanish and I have known these songs for a long time. I have to say that there're some mistakes both in the lyrycs and the title. First there're two songs that can be confused in title, one is "Ay CARMELA" in which lyrics you can hear "...viva la QUINTA Brigada..." that I suppose it is the song you're playing on the file despite the lyrics have almost nothing to do with the originals except for the melody and rythm. The other song is "Viva la QUINCE brigada" and this song is from the irish artist Christy Moore who composed it in honour of the irish people that fought with the republicans in the 15th International Brigade, but even he dismissed the number as in a first original version he used QUINTA instead of QUINCE due to a translation mistake. And secondly as the title of the second song is "Ay CARMELA" then it is that what should appear on the lyrics and not "Ay MANUELA". So it is not a very accurate image of the Spanish Civil War songs but a good job anyway. For the real songs (the three mentioned), here are the links: : "Viva la Quince Brigada" "Ay Carmela" "Los Cuatro Generales", also known as "Puente de los Franceses"--Achu astaroth (talk) 16:42, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

 Promoted Los Cuatro Generales and Viva La Quince Brigada.ogg --MZMcBride (talk) 08:38, 22 September 2008 (UTC)