Wikipedia:Files for deletion/2007 July 22



Image:Negroid Caucasoid Mongoloid.jpg

 * Image:Negroid Caucasoid Mongoloid.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Nordic Crusader ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Image uploaded by a user who has been blocked for promoting racist Ideology Muntuwandi 14:11, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. It was traced from this image, Image:Morton drawing.png used as a criticism in this article's section Craniometry, to promote a racist ideology in the Negroid article. See Talk:Negroid. - Jeeny Talk 18:39, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
 * It is not a true representation of a Negroid nor Mongoloid skull, and could actually be that of another species, Homo erectus. To have this image in it's current state is to misrepresent the subject and totally distort scientific evidence. See here. - Jeeny Talk 19:18, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom and above
 * Delete as self-made racist hogwash; any fool can draw up little misleading images of skulls. This is pseudoscientific and completely contradicted by medica science. VanTucky  (talk) 21:33, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete - misleading nonsense, used solely to promote a particular view. If we're going to talk about racist views, we can at the very least not openly use misleading or false images.  --Haemo 05:04, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Image:Barroso-younger-Expresso.jpg

 * Image:Barroso-younger-Expresso.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Pilim ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * When you have these many free high quality Barroso pictures, why have this low resolution one that does not depict any special or irrepeatable moment? — Serte [ Talk · Contrib ] 00:06, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Image:Carmeloanthony.gif

 * Image:Carmeloanthony.gif ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Drewinmaine ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * sports illustrated cover being used to depict a living subject, replaceable fair use Bleh999 02:17, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Image:Arroyo_355_040815.jpg

 * Image:Arroyo_355_040815.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Coburnpharr04 ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * non free image used solely to depic a living subject Bleh999 02:24, 22 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Keep - The image is supposed to be used to illustrate the historic moment it was taken in, not the image of Arroyo, the same way several of them are used in Michael Jordan's article. It should also be noted that the main use of the image is on the Puerto Rico National Team article not Carlos Arroyo's page. - 凶 21:31, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. In no way does this meet WP:NFCC #8 in any of the three articles it's in.  howcheng  {chat} 18:38, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Actually that's not correct, this image has gained some sort of 'legendary' status in Puerto Rico, the action in it has been mimicked in tv commercials, paintings and has been used in several articles in newspapers becoming one of the most widespread images in the island, as far as becoming to a certain extent a patriotic image. - 凶 00:23, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
 * That's interesting. However, none of the articles actually say this. Here's what you need to do: create a section in the Carlos Arroyo article about what you just described (naturally citing reliable sources to prevent the appearance of original research). That's what will make the use of this image pass NFCC #8. Also, it should probably be limited to Arroyo's article then.  howcheng  {chat} 22:55, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Image:Young_Son_and_2003_Nobel_Peace_Prize_Winner_Shirin_Ebadi_(150_Size).jpg

 * Image:Young_Son_and_2003_Nobel_Peace_Prize_Winner_Shirin_Ebadi_(150_Size).jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Minnesotaundergroundmusic ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Neutral listing. Declined speedy because: "Uploaded solely for use in deleted/salted article Articles for deletion/Young son."   But | seriously | folks   02:52, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Image:Soul_Inspired-Hip_Hop's_Revial_Cover_(JPEG_Format)(Thumbnail_Size).jpg

 * Image:Soul_Inspired-Hip_Hop's_Revial_Cover_(JPEG_Format)(Thumbnail_Size).jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Minnesotaundergroundmusic ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Neutral listing. Speedy declined because: "Uploaded solely for use in deleted/salted article Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Soul Inspired: Hip Hop's Revival."   But | seriously | folks   02:53, 22 July 2007 (UTC)


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Image:RidingBus.jpg

 * Image:RidingBus.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Archer5054 ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * UE (unencyclopedic) - The image doesn't seem likely to be useful in this encyclopedia. — CZmarlin 03:20, 22 July 2007 (UTC)


 * The picture just shows kids riding on a school bus. If you look at the School Bus page all you see is School Bus's from the outside you should delete one of them because its kinda repetitive. My picture shows us the action of bus riding no other pictures do that! --Archer5054 04:44, 22 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete- The picture doesn't show so much the interior of the bus, rather the person pictured. A picture focusing on the interior has valor, this does not. Feedloadr 16:34, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete - portrait of non-notable individual, with no other value. Jheald 19:09, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Just a note, but it looks like it's being used on the creators userspace, so maybe deletion is not a good idea here. --Haemo 05:05, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep user space picture. Removing it from the mainspace is an editorial decision that shouldn't be decided by IFD. -Nard 17:07, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Kept but removed from school bus where it was ridiculously inappropriate.  howcheng  {chat} 00:02, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
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Image:YYHt-010.jpg

 * Image:YYHt-010.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Magu2k ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Lack of source information and missing fair use rationale, bsent uploader. — -- SilentAria talk 05:16, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Image:YYHt-016.jpg

 * Image:YYHt-016.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Magu2k ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Lack of source information and missing fair use rationale, bsent uploader. — -- SilentAria talk 05:16, 22 July 2007 (UTC)


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Image:HEB.jpg

 * Image:HEB.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Enoch Lai ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Copyright Violation, because the photo focus a copyrighted logo.Alx 91 05:33, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep but re-tag as logo -- since I guess this is substantially a picture of a copyrighted 3D artwork. Then go out and campaign for proper freedom of panorama, so we don't have to go through this nonsense.  Jheald 19:15, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep and leave as is. This is not a logo, but just lettering on the store. It is too generic to qualify to be copyrighted. See the logo at HEB.com -Nv8200p talk 03:43, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep I have added a license tag for the logo. -Nard 00:06, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

Kept.  howcheng  {chat} 22:21, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
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Image:Mike_Reppin_the_Cross_and_Praying_Hands_Close_Up.jpg

 * Image:Mike_Reppin_the_Cross_and_Praying_Hands_Close_Up.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Michaelhannah ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Neutral listing. Declined speedy because: "Uploaded solely for use in deleted/salted article Articles for deletion/Young son."   But | seriously | folks   05:55, 22 July 2007 (UTC)


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Image:Microformat-logo.png

 * Image:Microformat-logo.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Pigsonthewing ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Released under a Creative Commons BY-NC-SA license, which prohibits commercial use. As such, this image can be used on Wikipedia only under a claim of fair use. However, it serves a purely decorative purpose in the article Microformat; it does not provide any useful information. Hence it fails point 8 of the non-free content policy. —Bkell (talk) 05:57, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep It is not "purely decorative" on that article - it s the logo of the microformats commnity. Andy Mabbett | Talk to Andy Mabbett 08:57, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep Re-tag as logo. Useful for identification.  Jheald 19:18, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment: If this is kept, it needs to be explained much better. I don't know anything about microformats, and to me the article seems to be about a general concept in knowledge representation, like attribute-value systems or XML schemata. It doesn't make sense for a general concept to have a logo, and the logo doesn't help to explain the concept at all. If the organization represented by the logo is important, then it should be discussed in the text of the microformat article. Is this the logo of an official standardization organization? —Bkell (talk) 22:45, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete unless explained better. I'm with Bkell. The only similar concept I can think of is the RSS icon [[Image:Feed-icon.svg|15px]] which has become a de facto standard representing RSS. Is that what this is supposed to be?  howcheng  {chat} 00:07, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Kept but retagged as a logo. Warofdreams talk 03:05, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
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Image:Mirvat_Najmeddine.jpg

 * Image:Mirvat_Najmeddine.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Mika3 ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Unencyclopedic, Orphaned, apparently an image of the uploader.  But | seriously | folks   05:59, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Image:Mumexico.png

 * Image:Mumexico.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Lancini87 ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Orphaned, unencyclopedic Bleh999 06:45, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Image:Mwmexico.png

 * Image:Mwmexico.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Lancini87 ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * orphaned, unencyclopedic, no sources for map Bleh999 06:46, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Image:States_of_Mexico.png

 * Image:States_of_Mexico.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Lancini87 ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Orphaned, Unencyclopedic, no descripton or caption Bleh999 06:47, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't think you can really call it "unencyclopedic". The question is whether this is useful at Political divisions of Mexico, or whether the existing material there is sufficient.  And whether there would be any value in a transfer of this to Commons.  Jheald 19:27, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Looks to have been superseded by Image:Mexico states map.png and Mexico Labelled States. Might be worth sending to Commons though.  howcheng  {chat} 00:10, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Send to Commons Whether or not that particular article needs the image is neither here nor there - but there might be other projects that could find it useful, such as Commons:WikiProject Atlas. - 52 Pickup 13:06, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Moved to Commons and local version deleted.  howcheng  {chat} 23:46, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Image:Mexico_Heart.png

 * Image:Mexico_Heart.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Lancini87 ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Orphaned, Unencyclopedic Bleh999 06:59, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Image:Btech_June_29_5_7.pdf

 * Image:Btech_June_29_5_7.pdf ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Sat8707 ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Orphaned, Unencyclopedic, Absent uploader, User's only upload Nv8200p talk 12:40, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Image:Bubblegumromance.jpg

 * Image:Bubblegumromance.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Myworkhereisdone ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Orphaned, Unencyclopedic, Absent uploader Nv8200p talk 12:41, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Image:Bubenberg-Denkmal.jpg

 * Image:Bubenberg-Denkmal.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Sandstein ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Orphaned Nv8200p talk 12:42, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Alternative to Image:BubenbergDenkmal_8406.jpg that is currently used at Adrian von Bubenberg. Personally, I prefer this one, with the sky as background.  de.wikipedia says if transferring to Commons, please mark Picswiss.  Jheald
 * Moved to Commons and local copy deleted.  howcheng  {chat} 23:40, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Image:BuchanansHotel.jpg

 * Image:BuchanansHotel.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Phenss ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Orphaned, Absent uploader Nv8200p talk 12:44, 22 July 2007 (UTC)


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Image:Bucharest-Skyline.jpg

 * Image:Bucharest-Skyline.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Phaseitem ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Orphaned,Absent uploader Nv8200p talk 12:46, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Appears to be a cropped and sharpened version of Image:Ateneul Roman b.jpg, one of several images of this building at Romanian Athenaeum. Is this a variant worth keeping? Jheald 19:44, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Deleted. The filename is misleading anyway.  howcheng  {chat} 00:12, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
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Image:Buddha,Closeup.jpg

 * Image:Buddha,Closeup.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Ancheta Wis ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Orphaned Nv8200p talk 12:47, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Added image to it's article in Portable shrine --Ancheta Wis 14:04, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Kept.  howcheng  {chat} 00:00, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
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Image:Buddiespack.gif

 * Image:Buddiespack.gif ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Surfingpikachao ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Copyright violation, Absent uploader Nv8200p talk 12:48, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Image:Buddy128.jpg

 * Image:Buddy128.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Scotty128 ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Orphaned, Unencyclopedic, Absent uploader Nv8200p talk 12:48, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Image:BuddyJesus.jpg

 * Image:BuddyJesus.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Icewedge ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Copyright violation, Orphaned Nv8200p talk 12:49, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Image:Buffalo_Chips_-_ChipsBagofusCD.jpg

 * Image:Buffalo_Chips_-_ChipsBagofusCD.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Briggon ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Orphaned, Copyright violation, Unencyclopedic Nv8200p talk 12:51, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Image:Buffalo_Chips_-_ChipsUnpluggedCD.jpg

 * Image:Buffalo_Chips_-_ChipsUnpluggedCD.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Briggon ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Orphaned, Copyright violation, Absent uploader Nv8200p talk 12:51, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Image:Buffalo_Chips_-_ChipsWhat_JustHappenedCD.jpg

 * Image:Buffalo_Chips_-_ChipsWhat_JustHappenedCD.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Briggon ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Orphaned, Copyright violation, Absent uploader Nv8200p talk 12:52, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Image:Building_1_.jpg

 * Image:Building_1_.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by APREVOT2002 ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Copyright violation, Absent uploader Nv8200p talk 12:58, 22 July 2007 (UTC)


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Image:Buildings_048.jpg

 * Image:Buildings_048.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Fetlar ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Orphaned, Unencyclopedic, Absent uploader, User's only upload Nv8200p talk 12:59, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Added to Fetlar - but delete if you think its use there is not warranted. Jheald 18:49, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Kept.  howcheng  {chat} 00:15, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
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Image:Bull_against_Luther.jpg

 * Image:Bull_against_Luther.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Drboisclair ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Orphaned, Unencyclopedic Nv8200p talk 13:05, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Certainly not unencyclopedic. But we already have an alternate version Image:BullExurgeDomine.jpg, which is what is currently in use at Martin Luther, and (it is claimed) represents the earliest printing.   The image itself is now PD, so there's no particular urgency to get rid of this. Jheald 18:32, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Deleted for having no real source. Couldn't figure out where it was from on de-WP. Could always be restored if someone can find that information.  howcheng  {chat} 23:47, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
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Image:Bullshark_Beqa_Fiji_2007.jpg

 * Image:Bullshark_Beqa_Fiji_2007.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Pterantula ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Image is tagged non-commercial on Flickr. Nv8200p talk 13:10, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I thought that was an acceptable license, since Wikipedia is concerned with public-domain "noncommerical" stuff; how should I amend this? thx much Pterantula 19:24, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Kept. Licensing appears to be acceptable (GFDL/CC-BY) and User:Pterantula has the same username as the Flickr account.  howcheng  {chat} 00:20, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
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Image:Burandonu.jpg

 * Image:Burandonu.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Chakarastring ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Orphaned Nv8200p talk 13:16, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Image:Burgos_CF.gif

 * Image:Burgos_CF.gif ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Raymond Cruise ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Orphaned, Copyright violation, No evidence uploader has authority to release image under the GFDL. Nv8200p talk 13:21, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Redundant with Image:Burgos CF escudo.gif, which is a better image. Delete. Jheald 18:24, 22 July 2007 (UTC)


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Image:Burns_-_Battle_of_Sheriffmuir_Manuscript.JPG

 * Image:Burns_-_Battle_of_Sheriffmuir_Manuscript.JPG ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Thelad101 ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Orphaned, Evidence shows that uploader did not create this as tagged and has no authority to release the image under the GFDL. Nv8200p talk 13:27, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Isn't this put into the clear by Bridgeman vs Corel? Burns's original copyright can't still be running.  Jheald 18:17, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
 * If the copyright of the original has lapsed, this should be tagged as a public-domain image, not GFDL or CC. —Bkell (talk) 01:55, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Kept and changed to PD-old.  howcheng  {chat} 23:49, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
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All deleted. Wikipedia is not MySpace. Please upload your family album to MySpace, Facebook, Flickr, or similar site. Thank you.  howcheng  {chat} 23:31, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Image:Burns_1957.jpg

 * Image:Burns_1957.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Marburns ( [ notify] | contribs).

Please do not delete this picture of my parent's wedding. How ironic it is to call it Orphaned!
 * Orphaned, Absent uploader, Wikipedia is not a repository for images. Nv8200p talk 13:28, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

It is obvious that the images in

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Marburns

are a part of

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reward_board#MRB_Constant.

I now have made it even more obvious.

If I haven't yet made it clear: --Marvin Ray Burns 01:47, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
 *  Keep

Image:Allen_1917.jpg

 * Image:Allen_1917.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Marburns ( [ notify] | contribs).

Please do not delete my family album. Since I am a contributer, some people may need to know about me and my heritage. I am not absent. I made it clear when I uploaded these that these are my iamges that only I had rights to them and I am freely distributing them.
 * Orphaned, Absent uploader, Wikipedia is not a repository for images. Nv8200p talk 13:30, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

If I haven't yet made it clear: --Marvin Ray Burns 01:48, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
 *  Keep In use. Being the center of so much undeserved attention makes me blush.

Image:Powel_1919.jpg

 * Image:Powel_1919.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Marburns ( [ notify] | contribs).

Please do not delete my family album. No one may say that I do not have the right to distribute this picture and thus honor the memory of my ancestors.
 * Orphaned, Absent uploader, Wikipedia is not a repository for images. Nv8200p talk 13:31, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

If I haven't yet made it clear:
 *  Keep In use. Being the center of so much undeserved attention makes me blush.

--Marvin Ray Burns 01:49, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Image:Joe_Allen_1927.jpg

 * Image:Joe_Allen_1927.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Marburns ( [ notify] | contribs).

I am not an Absent uploader. This picture is a part of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reward_board#MRB_Constant and thus is not Orphaned.
 * Orphaned, Absent uploader, Wikipedia is not a repository for images. Nv8200p talk 13:31, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia is the sum of all human knowledge and my family history is a part of that.

If I haven't yet made it clear:
 *  Keep In use. Being the center of so much undeserved attention makes me blush.

Image:Allen_37.jpg

 * Image:Allen_37.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Marburns ( [ notify] | contribs).

Please do not delete my family album. Since I am a contributer, some people may need to know about me and my heritage. I am not absent. I made it clear when I uploaded these that these are my images that only I had rights to them and I am freely distributing them.
 * Orphaned, Absent uploader, Wikipedia is not a repository for images. Nv8200p talk 13:31, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

If I haven't yet made it clear:
 *  Keep In use. Being the center of so much undeserved attention makes me blush.

Image:Floyd_47.jpg

 * Image:Floyd_47.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Marburns ( [ notify] | contribs).

This picture is referenced in my user page and in
 * Orphaned, Unencyclopedic, Absent uploader, Wikipedia is not a repository for images. Nv8200p talk 13:32, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reward_board#MRB_Constant It is not Orphaned.

This picture is dated; therefore, as a piece of history, it is encyclopedic.

I am not an Absent uploader.

If I haven't yet made it clear:
 *  Keep In use. Being the center of so much undeserved attention makes me blush.

Image:Marvin_ray_burns_1967b.jpg

 * Image:Marvin_ray_burns_1967b.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Marburns ( [ notify] | contribs).

Please do not delete this part of my family album. --Marvin Ray Burns 02:03, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Orphaned, Unencyclopedic, Absent uploader, Wikipedia is not a repository for images. Nv8200p talk 13:32, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
 * The school photo portion of this would be copyright by the studio or photographer that took the image and cannot be released under the GFDL without their permission. -Nv8200p talk 12:10, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

--Marvin Ray Burns 01:49, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Heep This school photo has no copyright or identification printed or implied by any studio. Hence, they have already released any rights.
 *  Upon further consideration, there is no need to involve other people in the posted image. On their account, I do not insist that the image be kept.--Marvin Ray Burns 03:00, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Image:Marvin_Ray_Burns_70s_pic.JPG

 * Image:Marvin_Ray_Burns_70s_pic.JPG ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Marburns ( [ notify] | contribs).

I am not an Absent uploader.
 * Orphaned, Unencyclopedic, Absent uploader, Wikipedia is not a repository for images. Nv8200p talk 13:33, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

This picture is a part of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reward_board#MRB_Constant and thus is not Orphaned.

When I uploaded this image, I stated the following: I, the creator of this work, hereby grant the permission to copy, distribute and/or modify this document under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.2 or any later version published by the Free Software Foundation; with no Invariant Sections, no Front-Cover Texts, and no Back-Cover Texts. You must not ask for more!

Wikipedia is the sum of all human knowledge and how I looked in the 70's is a part of that.

If I haven't yet made it clear:
 *  Keep In use. Being the center of so much undeserved attention makes me blush.

--Marvin Ray Burns 01:51, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Image:Marvin_Ray_Burns_a.jpg

 * Image:Marvin_Ray_Burns_a.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Marburns ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Orphaned, Unencyclopedic, Absent uploader, Wikipedia is not a repository for images. Nv8200p talk 13:33, 22 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Keep image is now in use. -Nard 00:04, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Great! Thank you Nard. You know it really hurts to have ones posterity threatened. Maybe I can now go on living. Sadly, I'm serious.

Image:Marvin_Ray_Burns.jpg

 * Image:Marvin_Ray_Burns.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Marburns ( [ notify] | contribs).

I am not an Absent uploader.
 * Orphaned, Unencyclopedic, Copyright violation, Absent uploader, Wikipedia is not a repository for images. Nv8200p talk 13:34, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

This picture is a part of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reward_board#MRB_Constant and thus is not Orphaned.

When I uploaded this image, I stated the following: I, the creator of this work, hereby grant the permission to copy, distribute and/or modify this document under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.2 or any later version published by the Free Software Foundation; with no Invariant Sections, no Front-Cover Texts, and no Back-Cover Texts. You must not ask for more!

Wikipedia is the sum of all human knowledge and my wife and I are a part of that.

If I haven't yet made it clear:
 *  Keep In use. Being the center of so much undeserved attention makes me blush.

--Marvin Ray Burns 01:50, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
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Image:BuryStEcath.jpg

 * Image:BuryStEcath.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Petepetepete ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Orphaned, Copyright violation, Absent uploader Nv8200p talk 13:35, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Image:Bushkiller.png

 * Image:Bushkiller.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Googlehoax ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Orphaned, Unencyclopedic, Absent uploader Nv8200p talk 13:38, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Image:Bush-killer.png

 * Image:Bush-killer.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Googlehoax ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Orphaned, Unencyclopedic, Absent uploader Nv8200p talk 13:39, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Image:Bush-killer2.png

 * Image:Bush-killer2.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Googlehoax ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Orphaned, Unencyclopedic, Absent uploader Nv8200p talk 13:39, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Image:Bushkiller-small.jpg

 * Image:Bushkiller-small.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Googlehoax ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Orphaned, Unencyclopedic, Absent uploader Nv8200p talk 13:40, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Image:Bushchimp2.jpg

 * Image:Bushchimp2.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Fccla ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Orphaned, Unencyclopedic, Absent uploader Nv8200p talk 13:42, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Image:Business_Control_Systems.pdf

 * Image:Business_Control_Systems.pdf ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Parag Bhadra ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Orphaned, Unencyclopedic, Absent uploader Nv8200p talk 13:43, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Image:Bustertherabbit.jpg

 * Image:Bustertherabbit.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Shindo9Hikaru ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Orphaned, Unencyclopedic, Absent uploader Nv8200p talk 13:45, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Image:Butter_fly.jpg

 * Image:Butter_fly.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Vas bkl ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Orphaned, Absent uploader Nv8200p talk 13:45, 22 July 2007 (UTC)


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Image:Button_Reference_Link.png

 * Image:Button_Reference_Link.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Anas Salloum ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Orphaned, Unencyclopedic Nv8200p talk 13:47, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment this image is utilized when adding extra buttons to your edit panel (see User:MarkS/Extra edit buttons), so it is unlikely it will be used in any page, unless for display or previewing. — An as  talk? 14:32, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Kept.  howcheng  {chat} 00:25, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
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Image:Buxfer-logo-high-resolution.gif

 * Image:Buxfer-logo-high-resolution.gif ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Harshilan ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Orphaned, Ue, Absent uploader, User's only upload. Nv8200p talk 13:48, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Image:Byebyebennies.jpg

 * Image:Byebyebennies.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Rylie ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Orphaned, Unencyclopedic, Absent uploader, User's only upload Nv8200p talk 13:53, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Image:Byuientrance.jpg

 * Image:Byuientrance.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by BYUIdahoPublicRelations ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Orphaned, Copyright violation, Absent uploader Nv8200p talk 13:54, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Image:C_0001.jpg

 * Image:C_0001.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by EADS CASA Espacio ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Orphaned, Copyright violation, Absent uploader Nv8200p talk 13:55, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Image:Map of Europe after Treaty of Westphalia 1648.gif

 * Image:Map of Europe after Treaty of Westphalia 1648.gif ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Raymond Palmer ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * claims to be adapted from original source, however is almost the same image with minor text changes original — --Astrokey 44 14:54, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Image:Rabies_Free_Countries_No_Text.svg

 * Image:Rabies_Free_Countries_No_Text.svg C_0001.jpg([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by myself (User:DTR).


 * Orphaned, Superseeded by Image:Rabies Free Countries.svg --Dave the Rave (DTR) talk 14:57, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Image:Mistulalogo.gif

 * Image:Mistulalogo.gif ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Silentaria ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Mistulalogo.gif obsoleted by Mistulalogo.png. — -- SilentAria talk 18:39, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Image:Loa4.jpg

 * Image:Loa4.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by (Automated conversion) ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * OR+OB by Image:Lines of Action move 02.svg — Papa November 1 19:04, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Image:NonNudeExample1.jpg and Image:NonNudeExample2.jpg

 * Image:NonNudeExample1.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by User:Cgros841 ( [ notify] | contribs).
 * Image:NonNudeExample2.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by User:Cgros841 ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Note from Jimbo: Per BenB4, the user has a history of copyvios and therefore I see no reason at all to accept his claim to have created the images. That's enough right there, and there was really no reason to even have a discussion, these could have and probably should have been speedy deleted as soon as the guy was caught on the other copyvios.--Jimbo Wales 23:21, 24 July 2007 (UTC)


 * These images both appear to show children in sexually-suggestive nonnude poses. Uploader has a string of images deleted for copyvio according to his talk page history. He was asked back in February to present a model release but has so far not done so, even though he edited in April. The absence of a model release from a parent or guardian for such images of minors presents a very serious legal issue (see below.) BenB4 19:34, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia image use policy does not require model releases (in fact, they are not mentioned in the policy), and they are not commonly in use; my check of a number of Wikipedia images of recognizable persons did not turn up any on the image description pages. --MCB 17:58, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
 * However, these are not notable people but children. There are ethical and legal concerns here that over-ride policy. --John 18:05, 23 July 2007 (UTC)


 * I uploaded an alternative found with a creative commons license on flickr. &larr;BenB4 20:33, 24 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete; without a proper model release these images are too risky to use. --John 04:24, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep; No to censorship and totalitarianism, yes to freedom and liberty.--Notototalitarianism,yestofreedom 05:46, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Note: user indef blocked as sockpuppet. &larr;BenB4 06:42, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Note: ad hominem and lie by BenB4.--71.108.60.17 01:02, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. Not used in any articles, blatantly unencyclopedic, and images that are potentially of minors without a model release. -- Thesocialistesq/M.lesocialiste 07:14, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
 * The image is used in the article Non-nude photography, and has been there quite a while. --MCB 07:32, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Only one of them. And I'm sure we'd do better if it were replaced. -- Thesocialistesq/M.lesocialiste 05:56, 24 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Keep. First of all, the images are valuable to the article as illustrations of the genre of photography that is the subject of the article; the article would be of much less value without an example. (Consider other articles on genres or movements in art.) Hence actual encyclopedic value as an exemplar of a type. Secondly, there is no Wikipedia policy requiring a model release for the subjects of images, and Wikipedia images do not customarily feature model released (feel free to cite examples or counter-examples). As the photo is not sexually explicit (or even of a sexual nature) the age of the subject is unlikely to present any special legal issues. As the photo has been released to the public domain by its maker, those who assert a legal issue should provide actual legal arguments rather than conclusions like "a very serious legal issue" or "too risky to use". --MCB 07:32, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Legal issue as follows: A 1994 decision by the 3rd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, U.S. v. Knox, ruled that language in the Protection of Children Against Sexual Exploitation Act of 1977 prohibiting the “lascivious exhibition of the genitals or pubic area” can include “non-nude depictions.” The court upheld the conviction of defendant Stephen Knox on the grounds that videotapes he had purchased showing children posing in leotards were marketed as being sexually exciting. Since the uploader added one of the pictures to an article which wikilinks "sexually suggestive" to "erotic," it would not be hard to show that the intent was to show lascivious imagery. Felony charges have been filed in Arkansas, Missouri, and Colorado against operators of "child model" web sites, for example, "engaging children in sexually explicit conduct for use in visual or print medium," and "employing and enticing a minor to engage in sexually explicit conduct for the purpose of producing a visual depiction and for operating a preteen “model” Web site that transmitted the images across state and national borders." &larr;BenB4 21:27, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep, photos have encyclopedic value, and there is no evidence these models are underage. —Angr 17:08, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment Other than the obvious fact that they look underage from their photos. Are you prepared for the media roasting us if (when) the real copyright holder and the subjects see the image on Wikipedia? The uploader has a history of misusing and mislabelling images. --John 17:22, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per BenB4 and per John. ElinorD (talk) 01:51, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep. I don't think these women look "obviously" underage in the least, they look like average college students to me. Apparently to some people, anyone under 25 looks like a "kid" to them. wikipediatrix 01:54, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
 * These pictures must be deleted at once, at least until some serious questions are answered. The subjects appear to be minors, there is no model release, they are sexualized or titillating, the models are identifiable (but not formally identified so we have no way of knowing that they are aware that the photographs have been made public), and the uploading editor is not currently available to answer questions. --Tony Sidaway 07:23, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
 * What makes them "appear to be minors" in your opinion? Seriously. I don't think you know what you're talking about. And since when do we need a "model release" for pics on Wikipedia? I can point you to thousands of pics on Wikipedia where we neither know nor care who they are or whether they signed a release. That these women are aiming their posteriors at the camera and showing less skin than anyone would see at the beach shouldn't make a difference. wikipediatrix 14:25, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
 * What makes them "appear to be minors"? In Florida law a minor is a person under the age of 18. I have a teenaged daughter, and I cannot tell whether any of the people depicted are over or under her age.  That being the case, I think the law would expect us to prove that either the models were over 18 or their parents consented to their partially dressed images being published. --Tony Sidaway 18:37, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Well exactly. Nobody can tell because the uploader has not told us and is unavailable to tell us. Images like these are highly replacable and in the presence of doubt about what ages they are or whether they actually gave consent to their (identifiable) likenesses being used on Wikipedia, we delete. If we need images like this in the future we get them properly sourced and attributed.--John 18:49, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Why don't we get an example of nonnude photography where the subjects are clearly adults instead? &larr;BenB4 19:47, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment To be honest, my best guess is that one photo might depict a set of minors, and one definitely doesn't.  In Example 1 those girls are very clearly over 18.  Example 2 is less clear.  That said, these photos are the definition of replacable, and there's reasonable suspicion on whether the uploader actually holds the copyright to them.  It's probably better to just play it safe and find some nice young ladies who'd be happy to replace them. Wily D  16:13, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. For once, I completely agree with Tony Sidaway on this. I think we need to be very careful in cases like this. While I'm quite aware that Wikipedia is not censored, I think there are serious legal and ethical concerns here; we have no evidence that the girls depicted in the pictures are adults or that they have given permission for their images to be used. Any potential benefit to Wikipedia by keeping these pictures is, IMO, outweighed by the risk of publishing suggestive pictures of minors without their consent, a practice which is illegal in many countries and somewhat unethical. WaltonOne 17:31, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete These images have sat, improperly accounted for on several levels, in an article for months. This is completely unacceptable, and the time for an assumption of good faith is over. The uploader has been given ample time. Not only are there serious ethical issues when it comes to the dubious age of the models, but there is not a shred of evidence that they ever consented to these being released on the web.There is also a good chance they are copy vios. VanTucky  (talk) 21:31, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete for reasons eloquently expressed already, SqueakBox 21:57, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete they sure look underage. In the UK, just making a (sexually provocative) picture *look* like it is of children under 16 is an offence. Why take the risk when there are so many better alternatives? MurunB 22:51, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete keeping them is an unnecessary risk. — An as  talk? 23:03, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. When in doubt, throw it out. Why bother to risk a copyvio (or even an offence) when the images can stay deleted? Sr13 06:42, 26 July 2007 (UTC)


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Image:AkuAku.png

 * Image:AkuAku.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by 1 Cent In Mind ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * I'm deleting images in Category:Images with no fair use rationale as of 10 July 2007. This has some kind of rationale, so I'd rather see it discussed, as I don't have the experience to decide on the merits of the rationale ElinorD (talk) 22:10, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Kept. Rationale seems adequate and it's used properly in the article about the character.  howcheng  {chat} 23:52, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
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Image:Nike(c).png

 * Image:Nike(c).png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Kay Körner ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * A vector version of this file is now available. OsamaK 22:22, 22 July 2007 (UTC)


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Image:Fellatio.png

 * Image:Fellatio.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by WikipedianProlific ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * offensive spam put on my talk page, and was put on the UK page by vandal! — Dewarw 23:19, 22 July 2007 (UTC).
 * just removed from Lady Bird Johnson; but is used appropriately on several pages. So Speedy Keep.  But block the vandal. Jheald 23:26, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
 * comment When I opriginally created this image it was to clear up a dispute on the oral sex article pages as the original diagrams all depicted same sex couples. This created an unrealistic balance of what oral sex is and so this and two other diagrams were drawn to show the giver as non-gender specific... i.e it could be a man or woman. Retrospectively though I regret uploading this, not because of what it is, as it is believe it or not okay with policy. More because I feel that for every time its used responsibly, its used irresponsibly 100 times. I honestly don't think it needs to be here, we dont need diagrams of oral sex looking at it a year on. It just creates ammunition for vandals and the immature. I recommend some serious consideration over whether we wish this to say, and i think thats fairly serious coming from teh person who drew it. WikipedianProlific(Talk) 23:36, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I thought images like this were pretty much locked down to certain pages, anyway. How did the vandal manage to post it to other pages?  Jheald 00:11, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure about that, since I created it, it has never been restricted or locked down in any way. I think even if it can be locked to certain articles, merely having it here wastes server space. Do we really need to know what oral sex looks like? - I mean a description of, for example, "The penis is inserted into the mouth..." pretty much hits the nail on the head, it hardly needs a diagram to assist it, and this is coming from the diagrams creator. I really regret this as its just so unessessary and it really lowers the tone of a serious encylopedia. WikipedianProlific(Talk) 01:28, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Images are only resticted if they really need to be, there are much more "shocking" images then this, but the lock down of images tool can not handle large lists, besides, wikipedia is not censored. —  xaosflux  Talk  03:33, 23 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Keep people will always be adding an image such as this, and this one is tame. Before we had Image:Fellatio.jpg which people didn't like because it was gay. &larr;BenB4 02:25, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep - useful image. Also, I just added it to MediaWiki:Bad image list, so that will put an end to the misuse of this particular file - A l is o n  ☺ 03:11, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Speedy Close, this is not an en: file, it is a commons: file, take it up with them. — xaosflux  Talk  03:30, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Speedy closed per Xaosflux: image is at Commons, not here. —Angr 17:13, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
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Image:32393164 a13451dbf2.jpg

 * Image:32393164 a13451dbf2.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Jibran1 ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * The summary states that the applicable license is "Creative Commons- Attribution-NonCommercial 2.0". Since this license prohibits commercial use, it is not free, and cannot be used here. —Bkell (talk) 23:47, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Question - Is Wikipedia a commercial enterprise? No one pays to use Wikipedia and the Foundation doesn't seek to make money from Wikipedia, so surely use of an image on Wikipedia is "non-commercial" and therefore images licensed under "Creative Commons"-type licenses can be used here.  If I have it wrong, please point me in the direction of the policy where it states use of an image on Wikipedia IS commercial.  Thanks.  Astronaut 03:06, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
 * It's the GFDL requirement that content licensed under it can be reused without restriction, even commercially. &larr;BenB4 03:24, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
 * You didn't really answer my question of whether Wikipedia is non-commercial. GFDL gives me the impression that the image can be used "...without restriction, even commercially" no matter if Wikipedia is commercial or not. So why is Bkell using the license as a reason to delete this image? Astronaut 03:43, 23 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Strong Delete as it contains errors. For example the reach of the antenna of the Taipei 101 is 508m, while this image shows the reach as being over 600m. Another error is that the reach of the antenna of the Empire State Building, which is 449m, is shown as only slightly about 400m. (measurements taken from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Skyscrapercompare.svg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Skyscrapercompare.svg) --Credema 03:51, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete because of the errors. However, I'm still curious about Bkell's assertion that it should be removed for a licensing reason.  I am concerned that other images may be deleted for similar and, in my opinion, incorrect reasons.  Astronaut 04:15, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep because the article is significantly enhanced by the comparisions in this image. The "errors" seem minor and don't affect the main point.LastCardLouis 04:36, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment I really wouldn't consider a 100m difference as a 'minor error'. Using images with such errors really lowers the quality of articles. --Credema 05:54, 23 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Keep as the licensing argument doesn't make much sense and the errors aren't major enough to justify deletion. As has been pointed out, Wikipedia is not a commercial enterprise, and insisting on absolute "freedom" for intellectual property before we may presume to use it would seriously compromise Wikipedia's ability to illustrate most articles. The argument being put forward here comes from WP:NONFREE, which is:
 * - A guideline rather than a hard and fast rule,
 * - In a shabby state, and
 * - Rather controversial (see the talk page.)

I'd love it if all of our images were absolutely "free" by everyone's standard, but that is not a reality we can impose without serious consequences. I'd have a hard time stomaching it as the sole reason for deletion.

Now, as to the technical problems, there's no reason in deleting the whole chart just because of errors with the sizes of some of the masts on the lesser buildings provided for comparison. If someone wants to edit the image and correct the error, I'd support deleting this image and replacing it with that corrected one, but until then, it's just not sensible. -- Thesocialistesq/M.lesocialiste 07:08, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Speedy deleted per WP:CSD. Noncommercial use only is not free enough for Wikipedia. —Angr 17:11, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
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