Wikipedia:Files for deletion/2007 May 21



Image:IMG 0692.jpg

 * Image:IMG 0692.jpg ( [ delete] &#124; talk &#124; [ history] &#124; [ logs] ) - uploaded by Jackguzman20031 ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * no evidence that this is GFDL licesned, watermark violation if it is, unencylopedic, orphan, absent uploader hbdragon88 00:07, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Image:IMG 2080witing.JPG

 * Image:IMG 2080witing.JPG ( [ delete] &#124; talk &#124; [ history] &#124; [ logs] ) - uploaded by Carolinagurl99 ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Orphaned, absent uploader, personal picture hbdragon88 00:07, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Image:IMG 2109.JPG

 * Image:IMG 2109.JPG ( [ delete] &#124; talk &#124; [ history] &#124; [ logs] ) - uploaded by Pobol 2006 ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Orphan, unencyclopedic, personal picture, absent uploader hbdragon88 00:07, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Image:Barry-Palmer_1960.jpg

 * Image:Barry-Palmer_1960.jpg ( [ delete] &#124; talk &#124; [ history] &#124; [ logs] ) - uploaded by BatteryIncluded ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * orphaned image, unsure of an encyclopedic use User:Gay Cdn (talk) (Contr) 01:00, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Image:P1010461_asmall1.jpg

 * Image:P1010461_asmall1.jpg ( [ delete] &#124; talk &#124; [ history] &#124; [ logs] ) - uploaded by Jbiezen ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Orphaned, possible Copyright violation Core desat 01:38, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Image:Anonymous Lefty excluded middle.png

 * Image:Anonymous Lefty excluded middle.png ( [ delete] &#124; talk &#124; [ history] &#124; [ logs] ) - uploaded by Grumpyyoungman01 ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * The consensus on this article talk page is that the image as it stands is useless for its designed purpose. - Grumpyyoungman01 07:57, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Image:Steve_moes_6_274.jpg

 * Image:Steve_moes_6_274.jpg ( [ delete] &#124; talk &#124; [ history] &#124; [ logs] ) - uploaded by Ephodslabs ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Orphaned Unencyclopedic Absent uploader MER-C 11:30, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Image:DSC08515.jpg

 * Image:DSC08515.jpg ( [ delete] &#124; talk &#124; [ history] &#124; [ logs] ) - uploaded by Halfling64 ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Orphaned Unencyclopedic Absent uploader MER-C 11:36, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Image:Wiki-mu-commons.jpg

 * Image:Wiki-mu-commons.jpg ( [ delete] &#124; talk &#124; [ history] &#124; [ logs] ) - uploaded by Justen ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * orphaned image, likely mistagged as PD and should be non-free User:Gay Cdn (talk) (Contr) 12:40, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Image:Wiki-mu-erickson.jpg

 * Image:Wiki-mu-erickson.jpg ( [ delete] &#124; talk &#124; [ history] &#124; [ logs] ) - uploaded by Justen ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * orphaned image, likely mistagged as PD and should be non-free User:Gay Cdn (talk) (Contr) 12:41, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Image:Wiki-mu-visualarts.jpg

 * Image:Wiki-mu-visualarts.jpg ( [ delete] &#124; talk &#124; [ history] &#124; [ logs] ) - uploaded by Justen ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * orphaned image, likely mistagged as PD and should be non-free User:Gay Cdn (talk) (Contr) 12:41, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Image:Fir-filter-wiki.png

 * Image:Fir-filter-wiki.png ( [ delete] &#124; talk &#124; [ history] &#124; [ logs] ) - uploaded by Mwilde ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * orphaned image, absent uploader, unsure of an encyclopedic use User:Gay Cdn (talk) (Contr) 12:42, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Image:Iir-filter-wiki.png

 * Image:Iir-filter-wiki.png ( [ delete] &#124; talk &#124; [ history] &#124; [ logs] ) - uploaded by Mwilde ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * orphaned image, absent uploader, unsure of an encyclopedic use User:Gay Cdn (talk) (Contr) 12:43, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Image:Wiki-mark-wilde.jpg

 * Image:Wiki-mark-wilde.jpg ( [ delete] &#124; talk &#124; [ history] &#124; [ logs] ) - uploaded by Mwilde ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * orphaned image, absent uploader, unencyclopedic User:Gay Cdn (talk) (Contr) 12:44, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Image:Wiki_struct_edited.jpg

 * Image:Wiki_struct_edited.jpg ( [ delete] &#124; talk &#124; [ history] &#124; [ logs] ) - uploaded by Kemna ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * orphaned image, absent uploader, unencyclopedic User:Gay Cdn (talk) (Contr) 12:45, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Image:Dickson_for_wiki2_046.jpg

 * Image:Dickson_for_wiki2_046.jpg ( [ delete] &#124; talk &#124; [ history] &#124; [ logs] ) - uploaded by Cfitzart ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * orphaned image, absent uploader, unencyclopedic User:Gay Cdn (talk) (Contr) 12:52, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Image:Wiki_acustimantico.png

 * Image:Wiki_acustimantico.png ( [ delete] &#124; talk &#124; [ history] &#124; [ logs] ) - uploaded by Varogami ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * orphaned image, absent uploader, unencyclopedic User:Gay Cdn (talk) (Contr) 12:53, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Image:Technacy-wiki.pdf

 * Image:Technacy-wiki.pdf ( [ delete] &#124; talk &#124; [ history] &#124; [ logs] ) - uploaded by Kseemann ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * orphaned pdf, absent uploader, unencyclopedic, appears to be original research User:Gay Cdn (talk) (Contr) 12:55, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Image:Wiki-errorbg.png

 * Image:Wiki-errorbg.png ( [ delete] &#124; talk &#124; [ history] &#124; [ logs] ) - uploaded by Cool Cat ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * orphaned image, unsure of an encyclopedic use User:Gay Cdn (talk) (Contr) 12:56, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Moved to commons, safe to delete. -- Cat chi? 13:31, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Image:Gogg_170805_wiki.gif

 * Image:Gogg_170805_wiki.gif ( [ delete] &#124; talk &#124; [ history] &#124; [ logs] ) - uploaded by Amreite ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * orphaned image, sole contribtuion of uploader, unencyclopedic User:Gay Cdn (talk) (Contr) 12:58, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Image:Modpic4wiki.JPG

 * Image:Modpic4wiki.JPG ( [ delete] &#124; talk &#124; [ history] &#124; [ logs] ) - uploaded by Hossen27 ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * orphaned image, insufficent information to determine an encyclopedic use User:Gay Cdn (talk) (Contr) 13:00, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Image:Coolit_emi.jpg

 * Image:Coolit_emi.jpg ( [ delete] &#124; talk &#124; [ history] &#124; [ logs] ) - uploaded by Jiwelch ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * orphaned image, absent uploader, unencyclopedic User:Gay Cdn (talk) (Contr) 13:02, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Image:CheckPoint303_wiki.jpg

 * Image:CheckPoint303_wiki.jpg ( [ delete] &#124; talk &#124; [ history] &#124; [ logs] ) - uploaded by Checkpoint303 ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * orphaned image, absent uploader, insufficent information to determine an encyclopedic use User:Gay Cdn (talk) (Contr) 13:08, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Image:IVC_on_Wiki_001.jpg

 * Image:IVC_on_Wiki_001.jpg ( [ delete] &#124; talk &#124; [ history] &#124; [ logs] ) - uploaded by Vagatep ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * orphaned image, absent uploader, GFDL-presumed tagged, should be possbile to create a cleanly licensed version User:Gay Cdn (talk) (Contr) 13:09, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Image:Queerkat.jpg

 * Image:Queerkat.jpg ( [ delete] &#124; talk &#124; [ history] &#124; [ logs] ) - uploaded by Sameer Joshi ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * orphaned image, absent uploader, unencyclopedic, GFDL-presumed license User:Gay Cdn (talk) (Contr) 13:11, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Image:Treeface.jpg

 * Image:Treeface.jpg ( [ delete] &#124; talk &#124; [ history] &#124; [ logs] ) - uploaded by Ohmtemple ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Orphaned Unencyclopedic Absent uploader MER-C 13:12, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Image:Retepora.JPG

 * Image:Retepora.JPG ( [ delete] &#124; talk &#124; [ history] &#124; [ logs] ) - uploaded by 0500118s ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * orphaned image, absent uploader, GFDL-presumed tagged, should be possbile to create a cleanly licensed version User:Gay Cdn (talk) (Contr) 13:15, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Image:RiverLiffeyNight.JPG

 * Image:RiverLiffeyNight.JPG ( [ delete] &#124; talk &#124; [ history] &#124; [ logs] ) - uploaded by Bucklejc ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * orphaned image, absent uploader, GFDL-presumed tagged, should be possbile to create a cleanly licensed version User:Gay Cdn (talk) (Contr) 13:17, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Image:Underarm_hair_female_(a_few_weeks_regrowth_after_years_of_waxing).jpg

 * Image:Underarm_hair_female_(a_few_weeks_regrowth_after_years_of_waxing).jpg ( [ delete] &#124; talk &#124; [ history] &#124; [ logs] ) - uploaded by Cutealoeplant ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * orphaned image, unencyclopedic User:Gay Cdn (talk) (Contr) 13:27, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Image:Pubic_hair_female_caucasian.jpg

 * Image:Pubic_hair_female_caucasian.jpg ( [ delete] &#124; talk &#124; [ history] &#124; [ logs] ) - uploaded by Cutealoeplant ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * orphaned image, unencyclopedic User:Gay Cdn (talk) (Contr) 13:28, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Image:MT TNSIRINY COVER.jpg

 * Image:MT TNSIRINY COVER.jpg ( [ delete] &#124; talk &#124; [ history] &#124; [ logs] ) - uploaded by Morningtheftnyc ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Orphaned image (article was deleted) — Closenplay 14:40, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Image:Irvin87UM-FSU.jpg

 * Image:Irvin87UM-FSU.jpg ( [ delete] &#124; talk &#124; [ history] &#124; [ logs] ) - uploaded by PassionoftheDamon ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * This non-free screenshot, used in 2 articles, does not increase the reader's understanding of either subject in a way that words alone cannot, thus failing WP:NFCC #8.  howcheng  {chat} 17:11, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep - Strongly disagree. Pic demonstrates Irvin's and, more generally, the '87 Hurricanes, flamboyance in a way that words alone cannot.-PassionoftheDamon 16:38, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
 * How does it show their flamboyance? He's just running with the ball!  howcheng  {chat} 18:50, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree with the nom, it adds very little to the article. Delete.  --Iamunknown 17:52, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Image:Cintron.jpg

 * Image:Cintron.jpg ( [ delete] &#124; talk &#124; [ history] &#124; [ logs] ) - uploaded by Marine_69-71 ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * No evidence to support the claim that this image was created by NASA. Abu badali (talk) 18:36, 21 May 2007 (UTC) Withdraw. Evidence was found. Image is really from NASA (thus, PD). Good work! --Abu badali (talk) 13:33, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep - found a NASA source for the image (and a better version of the same image). Megapixie 13:25, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Withdrawn: Good work! --Abu badali (talk) 13:33, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Image:WashingtonBartlett.jpg

 * Image:WashingtonBartlett.jpg ( [ delete] &#124; talk &#124; [ history] &#124; [ logs] ) - uploaded by OCNative ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Image is probably OK to use, but not totally sure. Regardless, it has been replaced by the PD Image:Washington Bartlett.jpg.  howcheng  {chat} 18:51, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Image:AMELIA_121.jpg

 * Image:AMELIA_121.jpg ( [ delete] &#124; talk &#124; [ history] &#124; [ logs] ) - uploaded by Brookie ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Tagged as GFDL, but description implies permission Abu badali (talk) 18:56, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Corrected back to GFDL tag as used with the ok of the BBC - have removed ifd tag  Brookie :) - a will o' the wisp !  (Whisper...) 06:59, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment: Without a ticket in ORTS it's extremely difficult to be sure that they understand that it's being released under the GFDL. Per you comments - it would appear to have been released by permission. If you asked them if you could put it on a T-Shirt and sell the T-shirt - do you think they would have said yes ? Megapixie 13:10, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't know - but that's not what I asked for - I expressly asked for and got permission to use on the Wiki!  Brookie :) - a will o' the wisp !  (Whisper...) 13:31, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately that's what GFDL implies (admittedly you'd have to print the entire text of the license on the back of the t-shirt). They may have thought you meant just on wikipedia - however GFDL means that anyone could use the image anywhere for any purpose - including commercially. Megapixie 13:41, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Okay to save wasting a day having pedantic arguments over the release as already given - I have re-emailed the BBC with a formal note of release - ok? I also think a picture of AMelia on a -shirt would be a fine thing!  Brookie :) - a will o' the wisp !  (Whisper...) 13:52, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Make sure the reply is sent to "permissions-en AT wikimedia DOT org", and then ask some user with OTRS access (like User:Jkelly) to add the OTRS ticket number to the image description page. Thanks for the cooperation. --Abu badali (talk) 14:18, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Image:QueenSky.jpg

 * Image:QueenSky.jpg ( [ delete] &#124; talk &#124; [ history] &#124; [ logs] ) - uploaded by Brookie ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Unnecessary unfree image of a book's cover, aparently being used to illustrate the (living) person depicted on the cover Abu badali (talk) 19:02, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep - it illustrates the subject and the writer of the book - rather ridiculous to suggest that this is unnecessary.
 * Why do you mean by "subject"? The living person or the book cover? --Abu badali (talk) 13:27, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete - not being used in a fair use context per WP:NFCC #1 - living person - we could take a picture that would serve the same effect. No fair use rationale provided.
 * Keep. The woman in the picture was fired from a union job (with a for-cause termination clause) for THAT PICTURE. Then she wrote a book about it. Then we wrote about her book. Image is irreplaceable because of her job firing and the notoriety surrounding it. -N 21:47, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. It doesn't say anywhere in the article that she was fired for this exact picture. You would have a good argument for keeping the image if that were the case. However, it says, "Delta Air Lines objected to photographs and commentary on her blog." Which photographs? Don't know, but it sounds like more than one.  howcheng  {chat} 06:05, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
 * There were other photos but they were very similar in nature, just mild risque posing in an airplane. The author chose this photo as an iconic representation of this and chose this as the cover of her book. Any alternative to this photo would still be non-free. -N 19:38, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
 * If there is no concensus here it should be kept - this matter should now be finalised  Brookie :) - a will o' the wisp !  (Whisper...) 16:33, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately consensus cannot override policy, especially when it comes to image licensing.  howcheng  {chat} 21:51, 8 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete, image is a replaceable fair use image. --Iamunknown 21:14, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep    We have no article on the book specifically, only this article on the author.  However, this is I think okay for fair use, as the image is used to illustrate an article discussing the book in question. &mdash; Gaff  ταλκ 18:27, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Object to deletion  I object to the deletion of this image.  The subject was fired for blogging and for a few photos on her blog.  The photo on the book cover is indeed iconic of those few blog photos.  After she was fired she wrote the book based on her blog (the title of the book is the title of her blog).  In short, the photo is the ideal image to illustrate the subject - "subject" being person, blog, and photos.  To restore the image, would it merely be a matter of adding an appropriate caption to the image to give its relevance to the article?  Can't we err on the side of constructiveness?  The case that the image is legally unacceptable has not been made by the above discussion.  The deletion is strange indeed.  I note that the article in question has a history of intense spam and vandalism...I am suspicious.  Bdushaw 17:38, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Image:LookEast.jpg

 * Image:LookEast.jpg ( [ delete] &#124; talk &#124; [ history] &#124; [ logs] ) - uploaded by Brookie ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Tagged as GFLD, but description implies permission- Abu badali (talk) 19:08, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Corrected the tag to GFDL as used with the ok of the bbc - have also remoived ifd tag as a result  Brookie :) - a will o' the wisp !  (Whisper...) 07:01, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Please, do not remove the ifd tag. This is not how this process works. Also, consider reading WP:COPYREQ. Asking permission to use an image on Wikipedia is not the same as asking it to be released under the GFDL. --Abu badali (talk) 13:38, 22 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Comment: As before - without an ORTS tickets it's difficult to be sure that they understand what they are releasing (i.e. commercial rights). Megapixie 13:38, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Okay to save wasting a day having pedantic arguments over the release as already given - I have re-emailed the BBC with a formal note of release - ok?  Brookie :) - a will o' the wisp !  (Whisper...) 13:51, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Image:Amelia.jpg

 * Image:Amelia.jpg ( [ delete] &#124; talk &#124; [ history] &#124; [ logs] ) - uploaded by Gingerblokey ( [ notify] | contribs).

*Keep - it shows the girl hosting the programme - clearly a picture adds something that text doesn't.  Brookie :) - a will o' the wisp !  (Whisper...) 06:55, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
 * unnecessary unfree screenshot doesn't appear to add any noteworthy information that isn't already covered with text. Abu badali (talk) 19:05, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Image:Harry Enfield in Kevin & Perry.jpg

 * Image:Harry Enfield in Kevin & Perry.jpg ( [ delete] &#124; talk &#124; [ history] &#124; [ logs] ) - uploaded by Calvin567 ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Orphaned. No licensing tags; possibly copyvio. — Ford MF 19:11, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Image:Invasion-3486.jpg

 * Image:Invasion-3486.jpg ( [ delete] &#124; talk &#124; [ history] &#124; [ logs] ) - uploaded by Brookie ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * tagged as gfdl, but description implies permission Abu badali (talk) 19:19, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Sorted: it should be a GFDL tag as it was so - have changed it now - have removed ifd tag as now sorted  Brookie :) - a will o' the wisp !  (Whisper...) 06:51, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Again, please do not remove the ifd tag. The discussion is still going on and others may be interested in reading it. It seems you asked for a Wikipedia-only permission, and not gfdl licensing, what's not acceptable. --Abu badali (talk) 13:41, 22 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Okay to save wasting a day having pedantic arguments over the release as already given - I have re-emailed the creator of the picture with a formal note of release - ok?  Brookie :) - a will o' the wisp !  (Whisper...) 13:53, 22 May 2007 (UTC)


 * OTRS permission has been confirmed and the image marked as such. MECU ≈ talk 14:39, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Withdrawn: Permission sent to OTRS. Good work! --Abu badali (talk) 19:57, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Reply received 23 May 2007
I grant permission to copy, distribute and/or modify the images entitled "Invasion-3481.jpg" and "Invasion-3486.jpg" under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.2 or any later version published by the Free Software Foundation; with no Invariant Sections, no Front-Cover Texts, and no Back-Cover Texts. -JON MORROW Director, "INVASION OF THE PINES"

Image:Genpowell.jpg

 * Image:Genpowell.jpg ( [ delete] &#124; talk &#124; [ history] &#124; [ logs] ) - uploaded by J.J. ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Orphan and nearly identical high resolution image available on the Commons at Image:GEN Colin Powell.JPG — Madmedea 19:37, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
 * n.b. blue link points to Commons. --Iamunknown 21:14, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Image:Tito_Puente.jpg

 * Image:Tito_Puente.jpg ( [ delete] &#124; talk &#124; [ history] &#124; [ logs] ) - uploaded by Zytron ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * copyright info is unknow. Abu badali (talk) 19:50, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Image:Obito Uchiha.PNG

 * Image:Obito Uchiha.PNG ( [ delete] &#124; talk &#124; [ history] &#124; [ logs] ) - uploaded by Surells ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Orphaned image. No licensing info.  Probable copyright violation. — Ford MF 20:06, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Image:John_Bigler.jpg

 * Image:John_Bigler.jpg ( [ delete] &#124; talk &#124; [ history] &#124; [ logs] ) - uploaded by Cmdrbond ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Small, low-quality copy of Commons:Image:John Bigler painting.jpg.  howcheng  {chat} 20:22, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Image:DSCF0032.jpg

 * Image:DSCF0032.jpg ( [ delete] &#124; talk &#124; [ history] &#124; [ logs] ) - uploaded by Lovesomebunny ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Orphaned image uploaded as advertising for user's website. — Ford MF 20:35, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Image:Tk001.gif

 * Image:Tk001.gif ( [ delete] &#124; talk &#124; [ history] &#124; [ logs] ) - uploaded by Boothy443 ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Orphaned because Image:Thomas Kennedy.png made this image obsolete. PNG crusade bot 20:50, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Image:Sylar3.jpg

 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the media below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the media's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this section. 

Deleted. Like Abu badali says, there is no evidence to suggest this is really a promotional image. You want a picture of Sylar before he was a bad guy? Get a screenshot.  howcheng  {chat} 16:18, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Image:Sylar3.jpg ( [ delete] &#124; talk &#124; [ history] &#124; [ logs] ) - uploaded by Silvestris ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Duplicitive purpose non-free media: Used to illustrate fictional character, when other non-free media is present performing the same function. —  pd_THOR  undefined | 21:27, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep. No other image illustrates that specific incarnation of the character, of how he was before he became Sylar. --Silvestris 23:57, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep. Agree - the image is important for clearly illustrating the change in the character through the course of the series, as his look changes along with his personality. The older look is referenced in a later episode when the character dresses in a similar fashion when visiting his mother. --Ckatz chat spy  00:20, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Keeep. We should have an image from when he was Gabriel Gray, as we saw the beginning of the "Sylar" persona in the episode "Six Months Ago." --Brad Rousse 02:41, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Should we also have a picture of him walking down that hallway that one time when he was casting that shadow? Or a picture of him from when he was using each of his different powers?  Surely we need a picture of him from when he was in his mother's house, that was an important time for him.  Wait ... no.  Using a non-free image to depict the character is reasonable.  Using images to make depictions of important and indescribable aspects of the character is reasonable.  If the character significantly changed his appearance over the course of character development then that character depiction would be reasonable.  If a single moment of the character's existence became so very notable as to be widely parodied and referenced, using an image of that would be reasonable.  But "Gabriel Gray" is the same character and actor as "Sylar", the character only appears slightly different.  Lastly, as the character only appeared like this ... once(?), then it is not well representative of the majority of the character's existence.  Further use of more copyrighted material does not contribute significantly to the article.  —   pd_THOR  undefined | 03:17, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't appreciate your sarcasm.
 * If you watched the show you'd understand more, but that image represents how he was before becoming Sylar. It's more than just another picture of the character posing. --Silvestris 17:18, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
 * How so? —   pd_THOR  undefined | 20:20, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Again, it represents a significant incarnation of the character. --Silvestris 00:44, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
 * But what exactly is the image contributing to the article that cannot be otherwise explained? It's far more pertinent to tell me 'how and why the character changed' than it is to show me 'this is how the character looked before he changed'.  Yes, this is a significant aspect of the character's story, but the image just shows me how he looks a little cleaned-up.  Whereas the article tells me what the character has done and how the character has changed.  The image does not provide anything more to the article than there is without it.  —   pd_THOR  undefined | 00:57, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Delete - Also, the image has not verifiable source information to backup the claim that it's promotional. --Abu badali (talk) 00:28, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep - If it was an article about a real person, this image would be kept to show the contrast between the two times in said person's life. Maxhully 22:46, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
 * What does the picture provide the article that is essential encyclopedic information that cannot be otherwise explained? —   pd_THOR  undefined | 23:52, 24 May 2007 (UTC)


 * The image is of the same actor, portraying the same character, but with a little less gel and a little more shaving. There's nothing overly encyclopedic about this particular image that's highlighted in either the IDP or the article.  Reading the particular episode referenced in the caption, while Sylar seems to have gone through some psychological change there's no evidence of any significant physical change or manifestation that this image could conceivably be illustrating.  It's another non-free image used to depict the character--and the article only needs one.  —   pd_THOR  undefined | 01:37, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep - This image portrays Sylar at a different point in his character development. It is important to show this image for several reasons. It shows that Sylar is aware of his new image, and how his old image has a different effect on people (he gels his hair to visit his mom). This image represents a different point in Sylar's life. If anything, this is the image of Gabriell Gray, not Sylar. I know they are the same person/actor ect but it is a deliberate choice on the part of the directors and the character.67.168.201.60 02:10, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep - As someone who had just recently started watching the show and wanted to catch up, I must say that when I first read this article, I found the image highly useful. It shows the character's original appearance before he became a psycho villain, and is helpful in illustrating the origins and development of the character. Joylock 17:50, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

Image:Everettirving.jpg

 * Image:Everettirving.jpg ( [ delete] &#124; talk &#124; [ history] &#124; [ logs] ) - uploaded by Lego8 ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Orphaned, no context to determine where it could be used appropriately Bigr  Tex  21:54, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
 * speedy delete looks like a vandalism or attack picture. -N 17:47, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Image:N26301407_30629313_4579.jpg

 * Image:N26301407_30629313_4579.jpg ( [ delete] &#124; talk &#124; [ history] &#124; [ logs] ) - uploaded by Jpw062588 ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Orphaned, low quality Iamunknown 21:55, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Image:Burnett1.jpg

 * Image:Burnett1.jpg ( [ delete] &#124; talk &#124; [ history] &#124; [ logs] ) - uploaded by Miles530 ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Low quality -- small, pixelated. Replaced by better quality Image:Peter H. Burnett.jpg.  howcheng  {chat} 23:32, 21 May 2007 (UTC)