Wikipedia:Files for deletion/2008 December 4



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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  06:47, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
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 * Orphaned, replaced in Jimmy Edgar by a photo given to us by the subject.  howcheng  {chat} 00:32, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  06:47, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
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 * Orphaned; no description of what photo is. Uncia (talk) 03:14, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  06:47, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
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 * Orphaned; no description of what it is a photo of. Uncia (talk) 03:20, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  06:47, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
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 * Orphaned; poor quality; no description of what it is a photo of. Uncia (talk) 03:22, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  03:03, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
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 * Orphaned, low quality. Uncia (talk) 03:27, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  06:47, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
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 * Orphaned; poor quality; no description of what it is a photo of. Uncia (talk) 03:30, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by An image with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT ⚡ 06:47, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
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 * orphaned, svg version of .png file that is also unused (commons) - questionable encyc. use Skier Dude  ( talk ) 07:46, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was: keep. Tagged as Move to Commons. -Nv8200p talk 18:52, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
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 * orphaned, apparently to be used on "church symbolism", usefulness outside of that is questionable Skier Dude  ( talk ) 07:47, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
 * The current image down for deletion is not mine, but Dulcimerist's, whom you appear not to have notified. The original image (mine) was of a true anchored cross. It's a heraldic charge, used as a decoration in the field of a coat of arms. &mdash; BillC talk 10:37, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep as reasonably useful free image, or transwiki to the Commons. Stifle (talk) 12:59, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  06:47, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
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 * orphaned, low quality, subject does not appear to have article Skier Dude  ( talk ) 07:48, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  06:47, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
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 * orphaned, possible use on "Saint Piran", but otherwise of no encyc. usefulness Skier Dude  ( talk ) 07:49, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  06:47, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
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 * orphaned, possible use on country, but otherwise of no encyc. usefulness Skier Dude  ( talk ) 07:49, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  06:47, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
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 * orphaned, possible use on some unidentified project, but otherwise of no encyc. usefulness Skier Dude  ( talk ) 07:50, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  06:47, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
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 * orphaned, possibly intended for Stargate Sg-1 article(s), but otherwise of no encyc. usefulness Skier Dude  ( talk ) 07:51, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  06:47, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
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 * orphaned, possible userpage image(?), but otherwise of no encyc. usefulness Skier Dude  ( talk ) 07:51, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  06:47, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
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 * orphaned, possibly intended for Stargate SG-1 articles, but otherwise of no encyc. usefulness Skier Dude  ( talk ) 07:52, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  07:47, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
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 * orphaned, username (Termpercal) may indicate ownership (Tempercalm album), but no encyc. use other than non-existant article  Skier Dude  ( talk ) 07:55, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  06:47, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
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 * orphaned, absent uploader, too small to be of any encyc. use Skier Dude  ( talk ) 07:56, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  06:47, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
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 * orphaned, apparently intended for Stargate SG-1 and related articles, otherwise no encyc. usefulness Skier Dude  ( talk ) 07:56, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  06:47, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
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 * orphaned, apparently intended for "NZ Armed Forces Award" or similar article, but otherwise of no encyc. use Skier Dude  ( talk ) 07:57, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  06:47, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
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 * Another orphaned SG-1 intended image that is not used Skier Dude  ( talk ) 07:58, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  21:09, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
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 * orphaned, intended for Asteroids (game) article but not used therein Skier Dude  ( talk ) 07:59, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. It's used on someone's user page, and, as a simple geometric shape, it's too simple to be eligible for any copyright. Transfer it to Commons if no one here wants it. <b style="color:#1111AA; font-family:monospace, monospace;">*** Crotalus ***</b> 20:33, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually it's in a user's sandbox of orphaned images. Skier Dude  ( talk ) 19:12, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  06:47, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
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 * orphaned, possible use only on Aziridine article, but otherwise of no encyc. use Skier Dude  ( talk ) 08:02, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  06:47, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
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 * unused football 'kit' pattern - team not mentioned on image page (BSC = ?) Skier Dude  ( talk ) 08:04, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  07:47, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
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 * unused football 'kit' pattern - team not mentioned on image page (BSC = ?) Skier Dude  ( talk ) 08:04, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  07:47, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
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 * unused football 'kit' pattern - team not mentioned on image page (BSC = ?) Skier Dude  ( talk ) 08:04, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  07:47, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
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 * unused football 'kit' pattern - team not mentioned on image page (BSC = ?) Skier Dude  ( talk ) 08:04, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by An image with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT ⚡ 07:47, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
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 * orphaned, "avatar" possible use on "Anarchy" (?) or similar article, but otherwise of no encyc. use - note to closing admin - please upload "generic" image & "salt" this to prevent this generic name from being used (or contact me & I'll take care of it ;)  Skier Dude  ( talk ) 08:09, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  07:47, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
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 * Another orphaned SG-1 related image that is not used Skier Dude  ( talk ) 08:09, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  07:47, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
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 * orphaned, non-encyclopaedic image (no article on "female black dwarves" as far as I can tell ;) Skier Dude  ( talk ) 08:11, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  07:47, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
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 * orphaned, non-encyclopaedic image (no article on "male black dwarves" as far as I can tell ;) Skier Dude  ( talk ) 08:11, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
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 * orphaned, unidentifiable "album" cover Skier Dude  ( talk ) 08:15, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
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 * orphaned, vanity image, uploader absent, UE Skier Dude  ( talk ) 08:15, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
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 * orphaned, non-encyclopaedic image (no article on "female dryads" as far as I can tell ;) Skier Dude  ( talk ) 08:17, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
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 * orphaned, non-encyclopaedic image (no article on "male dryads" as far as I can tell ;) Skier Dude  ( talk ) 08:17, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
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Multiple unused football 'kit' images
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The result of the discussion was: - commons showing through on one image  Skier Dude  ( talk ) 19:13, 20 December 2008 (UTC) The following are unused football 'kit' images that would be of use only on one team's article, as unused there is no encyc. value: Skier Dude  ( talk ) 08:46, 4 December 2008 (UTC) Image:Kit arms maroon.png - Image:Kit blue stripes triangle.png - Image:Kit body 1111.PNG - Image:Kit body Dartford.png - Image:Kit body Chernomorets away.png - Image:Kit body Dalzielc.PNG - Image:Kit body BVB96-97.png Image:Kit body Afghanistan home 2007.PNG - Image:Kit body Adidasred FCB.png - Image:Kit body Adidas FCB.png - Image:Kit body AU reebok spikes.png - Image:Kit body BVB96-97.png - Image:Kit body Arsenal2.png - Image:Kit body Arsenal1.png - Image:Kit body AC Milan2.png - Image:Kit body ACSI.png - Image:Kit body Engaway08.png - Image:Kit body GBRL.PNG - Image:Kit body Estonia2.png - Image:Kit body Greece away local 2006.png - Image:Kit body GK kit.png - Image:Kit body IPA1.png - Image:Kit body Iranaway.png - Image:Kit body Juve02-03.png - Image:Kit body Liverpool04-05.png - Image:Kit body Liverpool1.png - Image:Kit body Lottoapoel.png - Image:Kit body Lottored.png - Image:Kit body Madrid01-02.png - Image:Kit body Manutd1.png - Image:Kit body Marathon 1.png - Image:Kit body Marathon 2.png - Image:Kit body Milan02-03.png - Image:Kit body Milan04-05.png - Image:Kit body Monaco03-04.png - Image:Kit body Napoli2.png - Image:Kit body NommeKaljuAway.png - Image:Kit body NommeKaljuAway08.png - Image:Kit body NommeKaljuAway2008.png - Image:Kit body NommeKaljuHome.png - Image:Kit body NommeKaljuHome08.png - Image:Kit body NommeKaljuHome2008.png - Image:Kit body Madrid01-02.png - Image:Kit body Palermo.png - Image:Kit body Porto03-04.png - Image:Kit body Portugalaway copy.png - Image:Kit body Portugalawayshorts.png - Image:Kit body Portugalhome.png - Image:Kit body TSV01-02.png - Image:Kit body Turris.png - Image:Kit body UNAM 1.png - Image:Kit body Valencia1.png - Image:Kit body Valencia2.png - Image:Kit body Vingreensides08.GIF - Image:Kit body abumoskit2.png - Image:Kit body adidas snake blue.PNG - Image:Kit body aflshoulders.png - Image:Kit body aquaVonNavy.png - Image:Kit body awaygreece2008.png - Image:Kit body basketball BYU away.png - Image:Kit body blackshouldersorange.png - Image:Kit body blue amber sleeve seams.png - Image:Kit body bluelotto.png
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 * orphaned, UE Skier Dude  ( talk ) 09:52, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  07:47, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
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 * orphaned, UE Skier Dude  ( talk ) 09:52, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
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 * orphaned, UE Skier Dude  ( talk ) 09:54, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
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 * orphaned, UE Skier Dude  ( talk ) 09:54, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
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 * orphaned, username (Termpercal) may indicate ownership (Tempercalm album), but no encyc. use other than non-existent article Skier Dude  ( talk ) 10:02, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
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 * fails WP:NFCC2 - AP photo being used to show what guy looks like, the exact use that AP charges money for. we don't have a free photo, but even still we cannot violate AP's copyright Calliopejen1 (talk) 15:06, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Note to self: once this is deleted, email schlicher -at- snafu.de requesting CC license of photo that appears on this page, and perhaps ask the flickr user about this image (though they're inactive since 2007). Calliopejen1 (talk) 15:09, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  07:47, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
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 * Orphaned, just a generic house, insufficient info to be of any use Calliopejen1 (talk) 15:12, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
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 * Orphaned, Unencyclopedic, image page masquerading as article Calliopejen1 (talk) 15:13, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
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 * Orphaned, Unencyclopedic Calliopejen1 (talk) 15:14, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
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 * Orphaned, Unencyclopedic, Low quality Calliopejen1 (talk) 15:15, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
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 * orphaned self-photo Calliopejen1 (talk) 15:16, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
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 * Orphaned, Unencyclopedic Calliopejen1 (talk) 15:39, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
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 * Image:Australian_embassy_bombing_flag.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Mark ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * recent photo by news agency. fails WP:NFCC2 (they charge for this use, we are basically stealing this from them) and NFCC8 (this photo doesn't significantly add to the readers' understanding, seeing as it doesn't even show that much) Calliopejen1 (talk) 15:47, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

"News Flash": I almost fell over when I saw this. We have have had proof all along sitting right here: Image:Marked-ap-letter.jpg. It is a letter from the Associated Press that is giving permission for two images to be used. But the very last paragraph should be extremely clear: "With respect to any and all other photographs in which The Associated Press is the copyright holder, The Associated Press reserves all its rights, and specifically does not agree that any Wikipedia publication of a copy-protected Associated Press photo in which a Wikipedia user chooses to upload would constitute fair use." Soundvisions1 (talk) 23:38, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
 * That is irrelevant, because fair use does not depend on whether AP thinks it's fair use, it depends on whether it actually is fair use. (Which it isn't.) And of course whether we use it also depends on whether it complies with our policies. (Which it doesn't.) Calliopejen1 (talk)
 * Make no sense what you are saying - you make the nom. You argue these images are violations of our Policy. You argue these are copyvios. But when a letter letter direct form the copyright holder turns up you say "That is irrelevant..." Welcome to wiki-world! 8) Soundvisions1 (talk) 00:06, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
 * It makes perfect sense. The wishes of the copyright holder are irrelevant to fair use anlaysis. Calliopejen1 (talk) 20:57, 7 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Speedy Delete CSD I9: (Short version) While to photo credit is given to AP the actual source the image was taken form is MSNBC, which pays for it's content. Fair use does not apply here.

Longer version - legal stuff from A.P: (Edited from full version)

"Rights Limited to Those Expressly Granted. You acknowledge and agree that You have no right to use, copy, publish, display, transmit, broadcast or otherwise exploit any Content except as expressly authorized in Sections 2.2, 2.3 or 2.4 of these License Terms, or as expressly authorized in a separate written agreement (a “License Agreement”) between You and AP. Absent a License Agreement, Your authorization to use any Content must be evidenced by the issuance by AP of a written invoice (an “Invoice”), which may include identification of the Content licensed, the prices and rates for use, and any additional restrictions or limitations."

"7. Payment Terms - 7.1 General Terms. You agree to pay AP for all Content that You obtain from this Site, regardless of whether You use such Content. There are no refunds or cancellations. Unless otherwise agreed to in an Invoice or License Agreement, no rights in or to the Content become effective until You have paid in full all amounts due in the License Agreement or Invoice, as the case may be. All amounts due are payable within thirty (30) days from the date on the Invoice. A finance charge of 1.5% per month or the maximum interest permitted by law, whichever is less, will be applied on any balances unpaid after thirty (30) days. The maximum amount permitted by state law shall be imposed on each returned check."

"8.3 Compliance. At AP’s request, You will provide access to the Licensed Platform(s) in order for AP to confirm Your compliance with the Content License. Such access shall be without charge. Additionally, AP may inspect any of Your records, accounts and books relating to the licensing of the Content, upon reasonable notice to You, to ensure that You are using the Content in accordance with the Content License. If AP, in its sole discretion, has reason to believe or suspects that You have been using or is using the Content in violation of the Content License, AP may demand that Licensee sign an affidavit that its use has been and is compliant with the Content License."

Soundvisions1 (talk) 17:22, 4 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Comment - my initial reaction to this was to close as speed I9. However, I see the image has been on Wikipedia since 2004 with a fair use tag, so can we be certain that MSNBC has not borrowed the image from us or another source? I've removed the speedy tag, and suggest that this IfD is allowed to run its course. —  Tivedshambo  (t/c) 17:44, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
 * "so can we be certain that MSNBC has not borrowed the image from us or another source?" - you are seriously joking right? "© 2008 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed." (I have reverted your edit)Soundvisions1 (talk) 17:47, 4 December 2008 (UTC)


 * I9 is not valid as fair use is asserted, and it does not claim to be a free licence. See WP:CSD. I've asked User talk:WJBscribe, the uploader, to comment. —  Tivedshambo  (t/c) 17:54, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
 * How about you ask the Foundations I.P lawyers to comment as well. The image is taken from MSNBC which pays for its content. Fair use does not cover images taken from photo agencies such as AP or Getty. We can assume good faith that the uploader did not know this, however the fact remains the image is a blatant copyvio and needs to go. Aside from the legal aspects please read "Dispatches: Reviewing non-free images" Non-free content criteria - Wikipedia-wide criteria - "Reviewers should consider the commercial activities of the image's copyright holder and the image's role in those activities. Example that fails: An image of a current event authored by a press agency. Certain press agencies market photographs to media companies to facilitate illustration of relevant commentary. Hosting the image on Wikipedia would impair the market role (derivation of revenue), as publications (such as Wikipedia) would normally need to pay for the opportunity to utilize the image.". Soundvisions1 (talk) 18:03, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm not disagreeing that it may need to go. But as I have made quite clear, I9 is not applicable for images which claim fair use. —  Tivedshambo  (t/c) 18:11, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Removal reverted. Please re-read and understand the full criteria - "This does not include images used under a claim of fair use, nor does it include images with a credible claim that the owner has released them under a Wikipedia-compatible free license. This includes images from stock photo libraries such as Getty Images or Corbis." EDIT: In my "excitement" I left off the most pertinent item - Non-free content Policy - "Unacceptable use" - Images - 6. A photo from a press agency (e.g. AP), unless the photo itself is the subject of sourced commentary in the article. This applies mostly to contemporary press photos and not necessarily to historical archives of press photos. Soundvisions1 (talk) 18:21, 4 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Speedy delete: It's about as cut-and-dried a case of "not fair use" as you can find. --Carnildo (talk) 21:31, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Maybe it is now, but at the time I uploaded it and made the fair use rationale there was no such blanket prohibition in our NFC policy against using AP images. Either way, if it has subsequently fallen afoul of the NFCC, delete it. - Mark 01:15, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
 * EDIT: As it happens, it seems that I didn't actually upload the current image; someone else uploaded the current one over the top. I'm not sure where my original image came from. - Mark 01:32, 5 December 2008 (UTC)


 * At the time you uploaded it, we didn't have a fair-use policy. The closest we had was a few words of general guidance. --Carnildo (talk) 03:00, 5 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Comment It seems to me that my understanding of WP:NFCC is far more flawed than I thought, so I'd appreciate it someone could explain why the critera fail. I haven't looked very long, but so far I haven't found a free image that could replace it, although there exist certainly thousands of pictures that show the damage. A new one can't be taken anymore, so WP:NFCC seems to apply. I would also think that it passes WP:NFCC due to the lower resolution (there is e.g. ). Having a picture of the damage to the building is important for the understanding of the topic (WP:NFCC). It also seems to clearly pass all other criteria as well. -- Amalthea 14:24, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
 * It fails WP:NFCC2 because photo agencies charge several hundred dollars per year for the use of thumbnail-size images on webpages. You can check out sample licensing fees on Getty Images' website if you like. MSN is certainly paying license fees for this. It displaces the market role of the original image because we are using it for the exact use that AP intended to use it, the use for which it took the photo - charging people for the use of images, even small images. Calliopejen1 (talk) 19:49, 5 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Reply: I was going to reply on your talk page but figured this topic is spread out enough. :) Ok - so one of the easiest ways to answer is to read (re-read if you have read already) "Dispatches: Reviewing non-free images" Non-free content criteria - Wikipedia-wide criteria. It takes all the current criteria and breaks it down with valid and not valid examples. The "Example that fails" that would relate to this image is "An image of a current event authored by a press agency. Certain press agencies market photographs to media companies to facilitate illustration of relevant commentary. Hosting the image on Wikipedia would impair the market role (derivation of revenue), as publications (such as Wikipedia) would normally need to pay for the opportunity to utilize the image." In this case it has nothing to do with finding a free replaceable version, it has to do with the original source of this image - The Associated Press. First you have to ask "How was the image obtained?" and it does not appear that  this image was obtained directly from the photographer of the agency the is representing the image. Forgetting about any "Fair Use" for a moment you have an image that was obtained on a website that had to pay to use the image. This is a blatant copvio. Now lets add the "fair use" part - if you took, for example, a screen shot of this MSNBC page and used it in an article about MSNBC it would be safe to use a FUR. Even better if the article was about MSNBC's coverage of the Australian Embassy attack. But this is not what is going on at all. Someone actually took one image from the article, as it appears on the MSNBC website, and has now used it as a "featured" image in an article not related at all to MSNBC. More important is that the actual article as well as the images are not owned by MSNBC, they are all sourced to The Associated Press. So this is a blatany copyvio. Fair use does not cover what happened in this case. But...
 * Lets take MSNBC out of the picture. Now lets say the editor went direct to The Associated Press and obtained the image. If the editor simply takes an image of their website and uploads it here that is, again, a copyvio. The argument is that as long as a FUR is tagged onto the image it is no longer a copyvio. (or at least eligible in the world of wiki to be considered one) This is a false assumption because all photo agencies are based on the end user obtaining a License Agreement, this includes obtaining images for editorial use. The basis of fair use is editorial use and, in the cases of photo agencies that is impossible because their core business revolved around the sales of certain images for use in media. That fact is covered in Licensing policy of the Wikimedia Foundation, although in a general manner. The first thing on this resolution is the following: "The content of this page is an official policy approved by the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees. This policy may not be circumvented, eroded, or ignored on local Wikimedia projects." In this policy "fair use" is the equal of the "Exemption Doctrine Policy (EDP)" and as such, aside from the actual U.S Copyright law, is the core set of "laws" that lay down the foundation (no pun intended) for all "non free" image use on Wikipedia. Number 3 says "Such EDPs must be minimal. Their use, with limited exception, should be to illustrate historically significant events, to include identifying protected works such as logos, or to complement (within narrow limits) articles about copyrighted contemporary works. An EDP may not allow material where we can reasonably expect someone to upload a freely licensed file for the same purpose, such as is the case for almost all portraits of living notable individuals. Any content used under an EDP must be replaced with a freely licensed work whenever one is available which will serve the same educational purpose."
 * On Wikipedia that policy is the core of the Non-free content criteria policy which starts off with the statment "For the purposes of this policy "non-free content" means all copyrighted images, audio and video clips, and other media files that lack a free content license. There is no automatic entitlement to use non-free content in an article. Such material may be used on the English Wikipedia only where all 10 of the following criteria are met." Note the important wording that says "all 10 of the following criteria" must be met. The above image may indeed meet some of those 10 criteria but does it meet all of them? Now is the time to remind people of the actual source of this image - The Associated Press. And what is it they are? To use their own wording "AP delivers more than 1,000 photos a day from journalists recording news as it happens around the world. AP photos are an important part of modern-day world history - for more than a century, AP photographers have captured the greatest moments in history, news, sports and entertainment." With that in mind now look at the Non-free content criteria policy, criteria number 2 - "Respect for commercial opportunities. Non-free content is not used in a manner that is likely to replace the original market role of the original copyrighted media." There should be no doubt at this point that this image fails at least one of the criteria. And even if it met the other 9 the fact it failed one is enough to reject the FUR. The only way to legally use this image would be to obtain an OTRS on the image. It could be done - but now you have to meet The Associated Press's terms, not ours. Aside from the actual license details an editor can follow this: "All requests for republication of AP material must be in writing, clearly stating the purpose and manner in which the copy will be used. All republished material must carry AP credit. Unless specifically noted otherwise, all permission is given for one-time use only. No political candidate, political party, political action committee, polemical organization, or any group formed for partisan purpose may use AP copy in any publication. There may be a fee for reprint use."
 * See this really is a larger issue because, lets say this was uploaded under a free license and still gave credit to A.P. An editor could have tagged it either an i9 or with a di-no permission but another editor could come along and "fix" the issue by slapping a FUR on it. But the core issues still remain. Is it a copyvio? Clearly yes it is as it was not obtained directly from The Associated Press. So it could be tagged with db-i9. Now if the source the image was obtained from was The Associated Press and it has one of those "I asked and they said it was ok" type of comments we can certainly assume good faith and tag it with di-no permission which would allow an OTRS ticket to be obtained. But what is happening is all of that is being overlooked because there is a FUR. So now the discussion becomes kind of silly because the implication is that the foundations core policy as well as Wikipedia's core image policy do not really matter because, "in good faith", someone slapped a FUR on it. Perhaps it was the uploader or perhaps it was just a passing editor who feels the image was mislabeled on upload. Now the suggestion becomes db-i7 but that too could be removed by anyone because they feel the image that is newsworthy can have a FUR on it. And that puts the image into the same type of situation we are in now.
 * Wow, this is long. Well - there is nor real short "black and white" way to explain this all. As far as meeting other criteria. This is just one example that is easy for me to use without much work. Say someone uploaded this image and put a FUR on it. This is an A.P photo of a rescue dog at the World Trade Center site. If this was used in an article about rescue dogs at the World Trade Center site it would seemingly meet the Non-free content criteria. But you don't have to search far to find several versions - September 22, 2001 and September 21, 2001 are just two. Now here is a little tricky reason why I mentioned this as well. The photographer of the free images also works for A.P and you will often see her images with an A.P credit. In some cases, but not all, photographers will be a part of a "pool" and their images will be sent out across all the wire services. Bit in regards to this specific image - Other than the flag it is not much different that this free image: An American flag is flying at half mast. Or without a flag - This building adjoining the World Trade Center sustained considerable damage during the terrorist attack. I know it is not the same, but the image in question is being used in an article about the "2004 Australian embassy bombing" but yet this image is not even used to show the embassy (Another reason why it fails Non-free content criteria) - it is being used to show "The Australian flag continues to fly in front of a neighboring building devastated by the bomb". That being the case you could use one of these free use images and say something such as "The bomb caused damage much like this to surrounding buildings" Now if you wanted to try another "fair use" approach maybe try one of these: ranwar's photostream or amang1984's photostream. There are options. Soundvisions1 (talk) 21:19, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you both for your insights. I agree now that it does fail WP:NFC, also per the comment on : "Use of historic images from press agencies must only be in a transformative nature, only used when the image itself is the subject of commentary rather than the event it depicts (which is the original market role, and is not allowed per policy)." The image at hand is in no way iconic or widely connected with the event, and only used as an illustration just like the original market role, so no such rationale can be given. -- Amalthea 04:43, 6 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete. The only thing that can outweigh NFCC#2 for press photos, in my view, is truly iconic pictures or those where the picture itself has become the subject of much sourced historical commentary. This image meets neither of these conditions. For a list of pictures that do (in my opinion) meet such conditions, please see the old (April 2008) debate at NFCC Criterion 8 debate, and specifically the best practice section here, which includes some AP pictures. I had intended to turn that section (and others from that debate) into a proper guide, but never found the time. Possibly next month. In passing, it is worth noting that I've always held the position that our EDP (the NFCC criteria) may be more restrictive than that required by the Foundation's Licensing Policy, which says "Such EDPs must be minimal. Their use, with limited exception, should be to illustrate historically significant events..." It's never been entirely clear where the line is drawn when illustrating "historically significant events". Carcharoth (talk) 01:46, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Either way, this photo doesn't show enough of the bomb's aftermath to really be said to illustrate the event. - Mark


 * Delete per NFCC 2 problems. --Hammersoft (talk) 15:54, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
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 * fails WP:NFCC2 - AP photo, AP charges for precisely this use. it may not be replaceable, but just because we really need a picture doesn't mean we get to violate AP's copyright Calliopejen1 (talk) 15:52, 4 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Speedy Delete CSD I9: Image is by Nick Ut and is sourced via A.P. As with other A.P sourced images they do not fall under Fair use when taken from a source such as USA Today that pays to use the image. (For AP legalize see above) Soundvisions1 (talk) 17:42, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment - CSD is for images which are claimed to be free, not fair use images. —  Tivedshambo  (t/c) 17:57, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Removal reverted. Please re-read and understand the full criteria - "This does not include images used under a claim of fair use, nor does it include images with a credible claim that the owner has released them under a Wikipedia-compatible free license. This includes images from stock photo libraries such as Getty Images or Corbis." Soundvisions1 (talk) 18:20, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
 * See also: Non-free content Policy - "Unacceptable use" - Images - 6. A photo from a press agency (e.g. AP), unless the photo itself is the subject of sourced commentary in the article. This applies mostly to contemporary press photos and not necessarily to historical archives of press photos. Soundvisions1 (talk) 19:31, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
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 * AP file photo, our use violates WP:NFCC2 because they charge for precisely this use Calliopejen1 (talk) 15:56, 4 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Speedy Delete: CSD I9: Image is taken from Sydney Morning Herald, which pays for use of it's images. (For longer AP legal stuff see above) Soundvisions1 (talk) 17:29, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment - CSD is for images which are claimed to be free, not fair use images. —  Tivedshambo  (t/c) 17:59, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Removal reverted. Please re-read and understand the full criteria - "This does not include images used under a claim of fair use, nor does it include images with a credible claim that the owner has released them under a Wikipedia-compatible free license. This includes images from stock photo libraries such as Getty Images or Corbis." Soundvisions1 (talk) 18:20, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
 * See also - Non-free content Soundvisions1 (talk) 19:32, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
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 * Unused and blurry image uploaded October 3, 2007 that is described as "Marie-Louise Skov Norup. A Danish actor and singer. she is the front singer in the band 'The Artistery' " Image uploader made no other contribution to Wikipedia. Soundvisions1 (talk) 16:54, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
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 * i don't believe this is PD-self. user tags everything as PD-self, even logos, and most of his images appear to have come from random websites. maybe this one is his but with his uploading habits i think we should delete to be on the safe side Calliopejen1 (talk) 17:32, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
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 * this image is likely copyrighted. it is not from the world factbook, as claimed (obviously). the library of congress uses it here but sources it to other historical archives and does not provide copyright informtaion. based on his birth/death dates, it's possible this is after 1923 Calliopejen1 (talk) 22:49, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  03:03, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Image:Victory1933.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Garkeith ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * i don't believe the uploader is the author of this image. they seem to upload tons of scans/stuff pulled from the internet and tag it all PD-self, including 1933 yearbooks and logos Calliopejen1 (talk) 22:56, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
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Image:Victory1941.jpg
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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the media below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the media's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  03:03, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Image:Victory1941.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Garkeith ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * i don't believe the uploader is the author of this image. they seem to upload tons of scans/stuff pulled from the internet and tag it all PD-self, including 1933 yearbooks and logos Calliopejen1 (talk) 22:56, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
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Image:Stormtroopersearch.jpg
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted as I9 by AnomieBOT ⚡  00:02, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Image:Stormtroopersearch.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Garkeith ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * i don't believe the uploader is the author of this image. they seem to upload tons of scans/stuff pulled from the internet and tag it all PD-self, including 1933 yearbooks and logos. it also incorporates a copyrighted character as a central element. Calliopejen1 (talk) 22:57, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually a blatant copyvio per this tineye search. Deleting... Calliopejen1 (talk) 23:00, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
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