Wikipedia:Files for deletion/2008 September 13



Image:Jimius-pic.jpg

 * Image:Jimius-pic.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Jimius ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * orphaned image, recently absent uploader, unencyclopedic personal photo Jordan 1972 (talk) 13:50, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete -Editor inactive. &mdash; §unday   His Grandiloquence  18:42, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Image:Hillcrest_pic.jpg

 * Image:Hillcrest_pic.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - :uploaded by Dudebenz ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * orphaned image, absent uploader, unencyclopedic elementry school photo Jordan 1972 (talk) 13:52, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Image:Studio_MS.jpg

 * Image:Studio_MS.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Merciless_Sin ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Orphaned image, absent uploader, unencyclopedic band photo from speedy deleted article. Jordan 1972 (talk) 15:05, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Image:Merciless_Sin_Promo_Logo.gif

 * Image:Merciless_Sin_Promo_Logo.gif ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Merciless_Sin ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Orphaned image, absent uploader, unencyclopedic band logo from speedy deleted article. Jordan 1972 (talk) 15:06, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Image:Promo_Pic.jpg

 * Image:Promo_Pic.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Merciless_Sin ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Orphaned image, absent uploader, unencyclopedic band photo from speedy deleted article. Jordan 1972 (talk) 15:08, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Image:Mike_pic.jpg

 * Image:Mike_pic.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Mike_jean_baptiste ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * orpahned image, sole contribution on user, unencyclopedic personal photo Jordan 1972 (talk) 15:09, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Image:Ron_Pic.jpg

 * Image:Ron_Pic.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Piecesofeight ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * orphaned iamge, absent uploader, either an unencyclopedic personal photo or insufficent informatio to determine an encyclopedic use. Jordan 1972 (talk) 15:11, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Image:New_bio_pic.jpg

 * Image:New_bio_pic.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Adamthewineguy ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * orphaned iamge, absent uploader, either an unencyclopedic personal photo or insufficent informatio to determine an encyclopedic use. Jordan 1972 (talk) 15:12, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Image:Summit_2004_Conf_Pic.jpg

 * Image:Summit_2004_Conf_Pic.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Gowardo ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * orphaned iamge, absent uploader, either an unencyclopedic personal photo or insufficent informatio to determine an encyclopedic use. Jordan 1972 (talk) 15:15, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Image:Toad_pic_2a.jpg

 * Image:Toad_pic_2a.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Runningeek ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * orphaned iamge, absent uploader, very low quality Jordan 1972 (talk) 15:17, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Image:Example_of_Gaydar_main_pic.jpg

 * Image:Example_of_Gaydar_main_pic.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Tony1 ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * orphaned image, unlikely to have an encyclopedic use (note: Minimal male rear nudity) Jordan 1972 (talk) 15:24, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Image:Fphaty_Garcia_2005_promo_Peligro_pic.jpg

 * Image:Fphaty_Garcia_2005_promo_Peligro_pic.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Bg96 ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * orphaned image, last remaining contribution by user, very likely used on speedy deleted article about subject (per uploaders talk page) Jordan 1972 (talk) 15:31, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Image:PIC_0059.JPG

 * Image:PIC_0059.JPG ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Tigre ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * orphaned image, absent uploader, questionable free license given summary of source, insufficent information to make an encyclopedic use, blocking a different image on commons. Jordan 1972 (talk) 15:34, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Image:Pic_front2.jpg

 * Image:Pic_front2.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by KrisSyr ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * orpahned image, absent uploader, I question the license given the framing of the image -- likely pulled from a website Jordan 1972 (talk) 15:36, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Image:Velvet & Angelina Entrance.jpg

 * Copyrighted image. Appears on company's official website at the bottom of this page Gavyn Sykes (talk) 16:15, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Image:MarianneWilliamsonlow.jpg

 * Image:MarianneWilliamsonlow.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Secos5 ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * No evidence for this copyright claim. Source link is gone now, the archived version at the Internet archive says nothing about PD, the site's copyright policy clearly does not allow free redistribution. HaeB (talk) 17:24, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Image:Tony_luke.jpg

 * Image:Tony_luke.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Am_promotions ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Orphaned, Absent uploader (only remaining contribution), Unencyclopedic (text-scan? uploaded for Tony Luke Jr. - WP:CSD) Bigr  Tex  18:07, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Image:Lclc.png

 * Image:Lclc.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Khusal1 ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Orphaned, Unencyclopedic Nv8200p talk 19:21, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Image:Lclc.jpg

 * Image:Lclc.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Khusal1 ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Orphaned, Unencyclopedic Nv8200p talk 19:22, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Image:Laxcon_logo1.gif

 * Image:Laxcon_logo1.gif ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Khusal1 ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Orphaned, Unencyclopedic Nv8200p talk 19:23, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Image:Imbank.jpg

 * Image:Imbank.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Khusal1 ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Orphaned plus I have doubts the uploader is the copyright holder as claimed as image is web resolution and no meta data. Nv8200p talk 19:27, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Image:MinimumLinesT.png

 * Image:MinimumLinesT.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Harvey_Heinz ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Orphaned, Obsolete (Image:MinimumLines-b.png by same author) Bigr  Tex  19:28, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Image:Lclighting.jpg

 * Image:Lclighting.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Slygoat101 ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Orphaned, Unencyclopedic Nv8200p talk 19:28, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Image:Le_Butcherettes.jpg

 * Image:Le_Butcherettes.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Robert_ackley1 ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Orphaned, Unencyclopedic Nv8200p talk 19:29, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Image:Leadershippic.jpg

 * Image:Leadershippic.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Hawks66 ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Orphaned, Unencyclopedic Nv8200p talk 19:31, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Image:Leah-remini-31st-annual-peoples-choice-awards-03IWh3.jpg

 * Image:Leah-remini-31st-annual-peoples-choice-awards-03IWh3.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by H.i.h.s ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Orphaned, Copyright violation Nv8200p talk 19:31, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Image:MinimumLines.png

 * Image:MinimumLines.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Harvey_Heinz ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Orphaned, Obsolete (Image:MinimumLines-b.png by same author) Bigr  Tex  19:32, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Image:Leaves_fall.JPG

 * Image:Leaves_fall.JPG ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Mbz1 ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Orphaned, Unencyclopedic Nv8200p talk 19:34, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Image:Lec1.jpg

 * Image:Lec1.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Dadoclec ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Orphaned, Unencyclopedic Nv8200p talk 19:34, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Image:Lebronjames.jpg

 * Image:Lebronjames.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Nkasenides ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Orphaned, Copyright violation Nv8200p talk 19:35, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Image:LeddyLibrary.jpg

 * Image:LeddyLibrary.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Mikerussell ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Orphaned, Unencyclopedic Nv8200p talk 19:46, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Image:Lee_Yee.jpg

 * Image:Lee_Yee.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Engksit ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Orphaned plus I doubt the uploade is the copyright holder of this image. Nv8200p talk 19:49, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Image:Leeds_student_Logo.png

 * Image:Leeds_student_Logo.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Barrycarlyon ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Orphaned, Possible Copyright violation Nv8200p talk 19:51, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Image:Leek_video.gif

 * Image:Leek_video.gif ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Shadow42489 ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Orphaned, Unencyclopedic Nv8200p talk 19:52, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Image:Leespn.jpg

 * Image:Leespn.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Leehighfootball ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Orphaned, Unencyclopedic Nv8200p talk 19:55, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Image:Leetheman.jpg

 * Image:Leetheman.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Ampie_Omo ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Orphaned, Unencyclopedic Nv8200p talk 19:55, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Image:Left2smll.jpg

 * Image:Left2smll.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Livelifereggaemusic ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Orphaned, Unencyclopedic Nv8200p talk 19:57, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Image:Legend_of_Zelda_Twilight_Princess_Rupees.JPG

 * Image:Legend_of_Zelda_Twilight_Princess_Rupees.JPG ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Dr.Franich ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Orphaned, Low quality, Copyright violation Nv8200p talk 19:58, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Image:Lehman_-_At_The_End_Of_The_Rainbow.pdf

 * Image:Lehman_-_At_The_End_Of_The_Rainbow.pdf ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Mark.lehman ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Orphaned, Unencyclopedic Nv8200p talk 19:59, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Image:Leithead.jpg

 * Image:Leithead.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Aachandler ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Orphaned, Unencyclopedic Nv8200p talk 20:11, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Image:LenaLi_at_HIN_Chicago.JPG

 * Image:LenaLi_at_HIN_Chicago.JPG ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Aznmunkygrl86 ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Orphan. This is the only contibution of this uploader. The image is low resolution and there is no camera meta data making me think it is a copyright violation. Nv8200p talk 20:15, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Image:GoldilocksAndTheThreeBearsPCover.jpg

 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the media below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the media's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the discussion was: Withdrawn copyright concerns cleared up. ~ Bigr  Tex  02:21, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Image:GoldilocksAndTheThreeBearsPCover.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by MHLU ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Orphaned, likely Copyright violation Bigr  Tex  20:24, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Straightforward cover image being used on the article about the book, with a fully completed fair use rationale. What's the problem? Jheald (talk) 23:18, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
 * At the time I tagged it], it had a CC-by-sa-3.0 tag, not the current Non-free book cover license. Then and now it is not used in any articles, but now that it is properly tagged as non-free, orfud applies. ~  Bigr  Tex  02:21, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the media's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this section.

Image:MicrosoftAcceleartion.png

 * Image:MicrosoftAcceleartion.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by AHLU ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Orphaned, likely Copyright violation Bigr  Tex  20:26, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Image:Moarwiishop1.jpg

 * Image:Moarwiishop1.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by AHLU ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Orphaned screenshot, likely Copyright violation Bigr  Tex  20:28, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Image:Bio_pic.jpg

 * Image:Bio_pic.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Nuancerec ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * orphaned image, sole contribtution by user, copyright notation added by uploader, but then licensed as PD. Jordan 1972 (talk) 20:50, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Image:David_pic.jpg

 * Image:David_pic.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Dpmoeckel ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * orphaned image, absent uploader, low quality, unencyclopedic personal photo Jordan 1972 (talk) 20:51, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Image:SF_at_Haitian_Day_Parade.jpg

 * Image:SF_at_Haitian_Day_Parade.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Bluattic ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * orphaned iamge, absent uploader, image watermarked with website Jordan 1972 (talk) 20:55, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Image:SF_pic.jpg

 * Image:SF_pic.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Bluattic ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * orphaned iamge, absent uploader, image watermarked with website Jordan 1972 (talk) 20:55, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Image:Pic_028.jpg

 * Image:Pic_028.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Empardopo ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * orphaned image, absent uploader, low quality Jordan 1972 (talk) 20:56, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Image:Pic_045.jpg

 * Image:Pic_045.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Empardopo ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * orphaned image, absent uploader, low quality Jordan 1972 (talk) 20:56, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Image:Pic_030.jpg

 * Image:Pic_030.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Empardopo ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * orphaned image, absent uploader, low quality Jordan 1972 (talk) 20:57, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Image:YoConlaMaca.jpg

 * Image:YoConlaMaca.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Empardopo ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * orphaned image, absent uploader, unencyclopedic personal photo Jordan 1972 (talk) 20:58, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Image:ElComienzo.JPG

 * Image:ElComienzo.JPG ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Empardopo ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * orphaned image, absent uploader, unencyclopedic personal photo Jordan 1972 (talk) 20:58, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Image:MiChikiYYo2.jpg

 * Image:MiChikiYYo2.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Empardopo ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * orphaned image, absent uploader, unencyclopedic personal photo Jordan 1972 (talk) 21:00, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Image:Snuggleblade1pic.jpg

 * Image:Snuggleblade1pic.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Snuggleblade ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * orphaned image, sole contribution of user, unencyclopedic photo of a band Jordan 1972 (talk) 21:01, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Image:Leo_Hawkeye.png

 * Image:Leo_Hawkeye.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Ennrib ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Orphaned, Copyright violation Nv8200p talk 21:03, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Image:Leologo.jpg

 * Image:Leologo.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Leobuild ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Orphaned, Unencyclopedic Nv8200p talk 21:04, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Image:Leonardo_desailly_in_wikipedia.jpg

 * Image:Leonardo_desailly_in_wikipedia.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Alkal_leonardo ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Orphaned, Unencyclopedic Nv8200p talk 21:15, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Image:Leor_Natanov.png

 * Image:Leor_Natanov.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Leor_Natanov ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Orphaned, Unencyclopedic Nv8200p talk 21:16, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Image:Leticia-Demuse-Abstract-Artist.jpg

 * Image:Leticia-Demuse-Abstract-Artist.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Robertsloca ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Orphaned, Unencyclopedic Nv8200p talk 21:18, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Image:Letterlogo.png

 * Image:Letterlogo.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Code2break ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Orphaned, Unencyclopedic Nv8200p talk 21:19, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Image:Lexisnow.jpg

 * Image:Lexisnow.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Tripper520 ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Orphaned, Unencyclopedic Nv8200p talk 21:21, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Image:Leyna_2007.jpg

 * Image:Leyna_2007.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Batman802 ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Orphaned, Unencyclopedic Nv8200p talk 21:22, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Image:Lez_Fong_Show_2008.jpg

 * Image:Lez_Fong_Show_2008.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Sluggonomics ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Orphaned, Unencyclopedic Nv8200p talk 21:24, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Image:Lg_test.gif

 * Image:Lg_test.gif ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Art4em ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Orphaned,Unencyclopedic Nv8200p talk 21:25, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Image:Lg.photo.gif

 * Image:Lg.photo.gif ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Art4em ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Orphaned, Unencyclopedic Nv8200p talk 21:25, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Image:Lg.security.gif

 * Image:Lg.security.gif ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Art4em ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Orphaned, Unencyclopedic Nv8200p talk 21:58, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Image:Lgstvandremovalacbest.PNG

 * Image:Lgstvandremovalacbest.PNG ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by ACBest ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Orphaned, Unencyclopedic Nv8200p talk 22:00, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Image:Lgwilliams.monalisa.jpg

 * Image:Lgwilliams.monalisa.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Art4em ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Orphaned, Unencyclopedic Nv8200p talk 22:01, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Image:LiHongzhiInterview_high.jpg

 * Image:LiHongzhiInterview_high.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Dilip_rajeev ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Orphaned, No evidence permission was granted touse under GFDL. Nv8200p talk 22:02, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Image:Liamc13.jpg

 * Image:Liamc13.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Liamc13 ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * Orphaned, Unencyclopedic Nv8200p talk 22:06, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Image:Pic_2.jpg

 * Image:Pic_2.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Ashelin91 ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * I do not think the PD-self tag is correct for the current image, it likely relates to the first image. The current image is likely a promo shot or a professional photographer shot.  Also the image is used on an unrelated user page, but the only edit by that user is to place the image on his user page.  At a minimum, the currently showing image should be removed and allow for the original image. Jordan 1972 (talk) 22:11, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Commons showing through. -Nv8200p talk 20:46, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Image:Ghaith_Pic.jpg

 * Image:Ghaith_Pic.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) - uploaded by Ghaith_hamed ( [ notify] | contribs).


 * orphaned image, absent uploader, likely image of user based on user name -- likely used for self-promotion Jordan 1972 (talk) 22:26, 13 September 2008 (UTC)