Wikipedia:Files for deletion/2012 June 3



File:Dominosparrow.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:00, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
 * File:Dominosparrow.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) – uploaded by Amberrock ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Non-free photograph of a sparrow that was involved in a (semi-)notable incident we have an article about. Has a boilerplate FUR talking about "a significant photo of a famous animal". Fails NFCC#8, for the simple reason that all sparrows look the same. Seeing a photograph of this individual doesn't help the reader understand the article any more than seeing a photograph of any other sparrow would, or indeed seeing no photograph at all. The habit of having "portrait" photos of animals makes sense only for species that have at least some degree of human-recognizable individualized traits, such as dogs. Sparrows just don't have that. Fut.Perf. ☼ 07:31, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
 * "It is a significant photo of a famous animal." - how this photo is significant? Bulwersator (talk) 10:26, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
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File:2K - FTM.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted as F8 by A file with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT ⚡ 12:08, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
 * File:2K - FTM.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) – uploaded by Kingboyk ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Tagges with "Do not copy this file to Wikimedia Commons." but was on Commons. Please delete as F8. Bulwersator (talk) 10:23, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
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File:Unger Lula.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: withdrawn - found the correct source (http://agenciabrasil.ebc.com.br/sites/_agenciabrasil/files/gallery_assist/3/gallery_assist638709/prev/1705fp701.jpg) on a page where the cc-by licence is clearly stated. Thanks Fut.Perf - Peripitus (Talk) 12:11, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
 * File:Unger Lula.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) – uploaded by Archivingcontext ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Non-free image used to show two men talking - this in no way significantly increases reader's understanding of the topic and fails WP:NFCC Peripitus (Talk) 10:32, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
 * This image accompanies the article on philosopher Roberto Mangabeira Unger. It is an image of Unger speaking intimately and intensely with Brazilian president Lula. The image is necessary to the article in order illustrate the Unger's political influence and connection with Lula. Although this is stated in the text in so many words, the picture significantly increases the reader's understanding of exactly the closeness of that relationship and how Unger was able to push his influence. The picture further shows the intensity with which Unger took to projecting his philosophical project to the level of politics. In this way, the picture meets NFCC#8. Without this picture, the reader would not have a sense of the man or his political influence. Archivingcontext (talk) 11:05, 3 June 2012 (UTC)


 * This photograph comes from Agência Brasil, a commercial news agency, which however has released much of its material under CC-BY-SA (see commons:Template:Agência Brasil). Keep iff it can be verified that this is under a free license. Delete otherwise, per the original nominator's NFC argumentation, and per WP:CSDb. Fut.Perf. ☼ 11:10, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
 * ABr under free license here http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Photographs_by_Agencia_Brasil#U. The necessary template has been added. Archivingcontext (talk) 11:21, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
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File:Unger medal.jpeg

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The result of the discussion was: closed, per consensus, turns out to be freely licensed. Fut.Perf. ☼ 12:36, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
 * File:Unger medal.jpeg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) – uploaded by Archivingcontext ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Non-free image used to show a man got an important honor. Does not significantly increase reader's understanding - fails NFCC#8 - and appears to be a press image which may be a NFCC#2 failure. Peripitus (Talk) 10:34, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
 * This picture illustrates the philosopher Roberto Mangabeira Unger receiving a medal of honor from the Brazilian president for his service to the Brazilian state in formulating a defense strategy. It is necessary in order to illustrate the influence of this thinker. It shows that this honor bestowed upon him was not just a letter mailed or invitation for a speech given, but rather a formal state ceremony where no one less than the president of Brazil himself bestowed Unger with this honor. All this is more than can be expressed in the text itself. In this way it meets NFCC#8 criteria. As for NFCC#2, as stated in the original justification, this image has served its commercial purpose and is no longer a commercially viable or necessary product. In the language of the policy, it does not "replace the original market role of the original copyrighted media." Archivingcontext (talk) 11:11, 3 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Conditional keep if free, as per the next nomination above, otherwise delete per nom as NFCC#8 and #2 failure. Fut.Perf. ☼ 11:13, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
 * ABr under free license here http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Photographs_by_Agencia_Brasil#U. The necessary template has been added. Archivingcontext (talk) 11:21, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
 * In this case I cannot find the source - how do you know it's from their website and so listed as freely licenced ? Peripitus (Talk) 12:17, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Found here: http://agenciabrasil.ebc.com.br/galeria/2008-04-18/18-de-abril-de-2008#. Fut.Perf. ☼ 12:28, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
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File:Satyadev dubey.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:00, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
 * File:Satyadev dubey.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) – uploaded by Boseritwik ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

press image of a widely photographed, recently deceased, actor/director. Image is sourced to a press site (which may be an NFCC#2 issue) and is of a person where I can see a great many images. Claiming it is irreplaceable when there are so many available, and not all online, is hardly supportable as it seems likely a freely licensed image could be found. At the least we shouldn't just nick commercial press images. Peripitus (Talk) 10:43, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
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File:Tryper-75S.png

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 * File:Tryper-75S.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) – uploaded by Sexuallady ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

random non-free screen shot with no real rationale for use - fails NFCC#8 Peripitus (Talk) 10:52, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
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File:Tranzor form.png

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 * File:Tranzor form.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) – uploaded by Sexuallady ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

random non-free screen shot with no real rationale for use - fails NFCC#8 Peripitus (Talk) 10:53, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
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File:Daimos Commercial Banner.png

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 * File:Daimos Commercial Banner.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) – uploaded by Sexuallady ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

random non-free screen shot with no real rationale for use - fails NFCC#8 Peripitus (Talk) 10:55, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
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File:San marino cable car view.jpg

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 * File:San marino cable car view.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) – uploaded by Oaktree b ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

There was a big discussion a few months ago about what to do with works from countries that have no copyright relations with the US, and which may therefore count as PD in the US. The discussion (at Wikipedia talk:Copyrights) was closed as "no consensus", with the recommendation to continue the practice of disallowing such items. Here now, we have what may be the first test case from one such country that I must admit I never knew was part of this group: San Marino. Given the previous discussion, I think it is not worth re-opening this can of worms, especially not for the sake of such a tiny, blurry, low-quality screenshot, of a rather generic panorama view, of which free and better replacements could very easily be taken, especially when far superior photographs of quite similar panoramas already exist on Commons (e.g. File:San Marino 010.jpg, showing the same town from the same hill, taken from a point just a few hundred meters away, or File:San-Marino-Gondola-1283.jpg, showing the same cable car). Fut.Perf. ☼ 17:17, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Was the decision to delete the files, or to use the updated tags saying the items are copyright-free in the US as they have no copyright relations with the US? I read the discussion, and it's no clearer on the discussion page then before.... Oaktree b (talk) 20:38, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
 * The way I read the closing admin's statement (at the top of the discussion), he was saying that there was neither a consensus for maintaining the status quo ante, nor a consensus for any of the proposed new rules, but that his conclusion was "sticking with the status quo ante" in the absence for a consensus to change. the "status quo ante" was the old rule of not using such items, as decreed several years ago by Jimbo. Fut.Perf. ☼ 20:56, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
 * At Future Perfect's request, I'm here to clarify my closure of the RFC. Oaktree, you are right that in relation to Finding 3 in my conclusion, on the country-specific PD tags, is a bit unclear. I think my followup on the same page helps clarify that, but you may not have seen it. The country-specific tags like User:Buffs/PD-San Marino in US should be used and applied as appropriate, but updated to indicate that a Fair Use Rationale is required in addition to the tag (with an explanation that refers to the policy). But the text of Non-U.S._copyrights (which I've just updated) should also be borne in mind; if the incorporated work is not free in Country X, that inhibits the ability to reproduce the relevant Wikipedia article(s) in Country X. Fair Use guidelines cover that pretty well - if an image meets those, then that should be justification enough to use content copyrighted in Country X, even if Country X doesn't have applicable Fair Use provisions. Rd232 talk 21:47, 3 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete This is by the way not the first case since the closure of that RfC; I proposed a few Iranian files for deletion some time ago. The conclusion was that photos such as this one should be treated as unfree, and this photo fails WP:NFCC. --Stefan2 (talk) 19:48, 4 June 2012 (UTC)
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File:Rhumart MBI 3000 RESC Controller.JPG

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted as F8 by A file with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT ⚡ 13:09, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
 * File:Rhumart MBI 3000 RESC Controller.JPG ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) – uploaded by CyclePat ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

There is nothing copyrighted in this image making fair use tags necessary. The larger scale version of this has been moved to Commons. This does not qualify for speedy deletion because it is not pixel identical to the Commons version. -Nard ( Hablemonos ) ( Let's talk ) 17:49, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
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File:2.7.07JoeQuesada2.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by A file with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT ⚡ 02:00, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
 * File:2.7.07JoeQuesada2.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) – uploaded by Nightscream ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Unused crop of http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:2.7.07JoeQuesada2.jpg and unlikely to be used due to extremely low quality Bulwersator (talk) 18:19, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete. --MGA73 (talk) 11:04, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
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File:AntiEP.png

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by A file with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT ⚡ 02:00, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
 * File:AntiEP.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) – uploaded by Vanished 1850 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Obvious PD-shape, please delete as F8 Bulwersator (talk) 18:30, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete. --MGA73 (talk) 11:06, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
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File:Associació Guiatge Valenciá.svg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by A file with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT ⚡ 02:00, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
 * File:Associació Guiatge Valenciá.svg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) – uploaded by Kaboom88 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Obvious PD-shape, please delete as F8 Bulwersator (talk) 18:30, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete. --MGA73 (talk) 11:15, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
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File:A Company Awards.jpg

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 * File:A Company Awards.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) – uploaded by Rvnpilot ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Unused file without description Bulwersator (talk) 18:33, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
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File:Baronnies (Col de Perty).jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted as F8 by A file with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT ⚡ 13:09, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
 * File:Baronnies (Col de Perty).jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) – uploaded by Chuckfew ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

I moved file to commons but later I noticed larger version in history. Unfortunately I am unable to upload to commons full resolution (I am not sure why). So - can somebody try to finish move and delete as F8? Bulwersator (talk) 18:50, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I uploaded older version with http://toolserver.org/~magog/oldver.php and it worked fine for me... Wiki probably just had a bad day when you tried :-) --MGA73 (talk) 11:17, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
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File:WSFCS logo.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted as G7 by AnomieBOT ⚡  22:13, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
 * File:WSFCS logo.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) – uploaded by DavidSSabb ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Obsolete fair-use image replaced by a higher quality version at File:Wsfcslogo.png DavidSSabb (talk) 19:58, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Passing admin, this is a db-self. Cheers,  S ven M anguard   Wha?  20:26, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
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File:Tech N9ne and friends Music Video.jpg
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 * File:Tech N9ne and friends Music Video.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) – uploaded by Rayman Man ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

We don't need a screenshot of the music video, these are living people not in costume, so we can use free images easily.  S ven M anguard  Wha?  20:25, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
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File:Tennessee Tax Revolt logo, 2012.png
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 * File:Tennessee Tax Revolt logo, 2012.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) – uploaded by Struthious Bandersnatch ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

This non-free image isn't used in the article space. Incubators in the Wikipedia namespace don't count (likely because most never make it out). Fails NFCC criteria 7  S ven M anguard   Wha?  22:48, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment ‣ If that's the policy, it's fine with me. I have saved off the accompanying text and I can re-upload the file if the article is moved back into the main namespace. -- ▸∮ truthious ᛔ andersnatch ◂ 01:36, 4 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Seems more like pd-textlogo to me. The little triangle thing is a placeholder image from Microsoft Office. / ƒETCH COMMS  /  19:05, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
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