Wikipedia:Files for deletion/2015 October 18



File:Gwadarmontage.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  04:02, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
 * File:Gwadarmontage.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) – uploaded by Wanishahrukh ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

The source/license and author information of 2 images (File:Pearl Continental Hotel- Gwadar.jpg + File:Makran Coastal Highway. Gwadar-Karachi.jpg = both copyvios) used in this collage are missing or are insufficient, compromising the whole file. See also c:Commons:Collages. Gunnex (talk) 08:13, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
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File:Meccamontage.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  04:02, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
 * File:Meccamontage.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) – uploaded by Wanishahrukh ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

The source/license and author information of 1 image (c:File:Makkah tower.jpg, deleted per c:Commons:Deletion requests/More images of Saudi Arabia) used in this collage is missing or is insufficient, compromising the whole file. See also c:Commons:Collages. Gunnex (talk) 08:18, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
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File:Pticecmeeting.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  04:02, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
 * File:Pticecmeeting.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) – uploaded by Wanishah ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Unlikely to be own work: small/inconsistent (Facebook) resolutions, missing EXIF, per c:COM:PRP, considering User talk:Wanishah (Facebook grabber)

Nominating also:
 * File:Teamenp.PNG ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) – uploaded by Wanishah ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log)
 * File:Ptileaders.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) – uploaded by Wanishah ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log)

Gunnex (talk) 09:22, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
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File:Pakistanarmedforces.png

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  04:02, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
 * File:Pakistanarmedforces.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) – uploaded by Wanishahrukh ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

The source/license and author information of 1 image (airplane) used in this collage is missing or is insufficient, compromising the whole file. See also c:Commons:Collages. Gunnex (talk) 10:29, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
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File:Pakistanmontage.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  04:02, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
 * File:Pakistanmontage.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) – uploaded by Wanishahrukh ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

The source/license and author information of 2 images (File:Karachiskyline.jpg = grabbed by uploader from Flickr, see user talk/serial copyright violator + c:File:Project of Bahria Icon Tower 2014-01-20 14-35.jpeg) used in this collage is missing or is insufficient, compromising the whole file. See also c:Commons:Collages. Gunnex (talk) 10:41, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
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File:State University of New York at Buffalo.png

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  05:03, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
 * File:State University of New York at Buffalo.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) – uploaded by AlaskanNativeRU ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Seems to be the same seal as File:University at Buffalo The State University of New York seal.png and seems to violate WP:NFC §17. Stefan2 (talk) 12:57, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

It doesn't seem to violate anything. Just so I can keep this short, the pages at Cornell University's departments have a seal the same way I used. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornell_University_College_of_Human_Ecology, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornell_University_College_of_Veterinary_Medicine. Its on top of the articles page and an University seal which make it fair use and I see nothing wrong with it. Many other University's do the same exact thing. UC Berkeley also - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_California,_Berkeley, school page - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UC_Berkeley_College_of_Engineering , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UC_Berkeley_College_of_Letters_and_Science. I was doing it for https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_at_Buffalo, and its school pages which is consistent with the ones i listed. - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_at_Buffalo_School_of_Engineering_and_Applied_Sciences, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_at_Buffalo_Law_School .AlaskanNativeRU (talk) 17:18, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
 * See WP:OTHERTHINGSEXIST. One additional image nominated for deletion below. The seal of University of California, Berkeley is claimed to be in the public domain. If this is correct, then the seal of that university can be used more liberally. --Stefan2 (talk) 18:06, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

The State Univerity of New York at Buffalo is also public domain just like UC Berkley is it not?AlaskanNativeRU (talk) 05:06, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
 * There is no evidence that this logo is in the public domain. I am not convinced that the PD tag for the other logo is correct. --Stefan2 (talk) 11:58, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
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File:Elfpension in Pyongchang, South Korea.png

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  04:02, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
 * File:Elfpension in Pyongchang, South Korea.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) – uploaded by Softjuice ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Unlikely to be own work: small/inconsistent (Facebook) resolutions, missing/inconsistent EXIF, per c:COM:PRP, considering uploader talk User talk:Softjuice/logs (filled with several copyvios), c:Commons:Deletion requests/Files from enwiki user Softjuice and blocked uploader, part of a huge sockfarm via Sockpuppet investigations/Tnaniua/Archive with several copyvios, like User talk:Alohahell (detected on same occasion as sock).

Nominating also:
 * No exif, low res, inconsistent resolution
 * File:Elfpension in Pyongchang, South Korea.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) – uploaded by Softjuice ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log)
 * --> uploaded 2010 and grabbed from (example) http://event.tourexpress.com/TXP/publish/hotel/051117Winter.html (archived since 2005) = http://image.tourexpress.com/htcrs/crs/images/photo/pension/PQZW0401/OVERVIEW/PQZW0401-0.jpg (last modified: 2006)
 * File:Night view of Shinsegae Centum City.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) – uploaded by Softjuice ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log)
 * --> uploaded 2010 and grabbed & photoshopped from (example) http://cafefiles.naver.net/20090924_86/losiver_1253759468489QCEhC_jpg/bcbec5d2_bedfb0e6-1_midiank_losiver.jpg (last modified: 2009)
 * File:Intercontinental Hotel in Pyongchang, South Korea.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) – uploaded by Softjuice ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log)
 * --> uploaded 2010 and grabbed from (example) http://www.newswire.co.kr/newsRead.php?no=446982 (2009) = (small res) http://file.newswire.co.kr/data/datafile2/thumb_big/2009/12/2039103817_20091217164232_2677378810.jpg (last modified: 2009). Res 800x461 accessible only via login.
 * File:Ski Jump Tower Stadium in Pyongchang, South Korea.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) – uploaded by Softjuice ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log)
 * File:Skiing at a mountain in PyongChang, South Korea.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) – uploaded by Softjuice ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log)
 * --> uploaded 2010, circulating at Internet via http://ticketimage.interpark.com/Play/image/large/07/07004730_3.gif (last modified: 2007) since 2007 or via http://www.chosun.com/media/photo/news/200511/200511230352_00.jpg (last modified: 2005) since 2005 and mysterioulsy available in higher res via (example) https://exp.cdn-hotels.com/hotels/5000000/4170000/4160700/4160620/4160620_44_z.jpg (1000x797)
 * File:Hyperion Towers.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) – uploaded by Softjuice ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log)
 * File:Landmark bridge on Dongmak Station, Incheon Subway Line 1.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) – uploaded by Softjuice ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log)
 * File:Nuritkum Square, Digital Media City in Seoul (1).jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) – uploaded by Softjuice ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log)
 * --> uploaded 2009 and grabbed from (example) http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=18598579&postcount=11 (2008, © by "kyenan") = (higher res) only download
 * File:Skybridge of Nuritkum Square.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) – uploaded by Softjuice ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log)
 * File:A test bed inside Nuritkum Square, Digital Media City, Seoul.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) – uploaded by Softjuice ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log)
 * File:Nuritkum Square interior.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) – uploaded by Softjuice ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log)
 * File:Giant display and solar panel lamp at Nuritkum Square.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) – uploaded by Softjuice ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log)
 * <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx" id="File:A test bed inside Nuritkum Square, Digital Media City, Seoul.jpg">File:A test bed inside Nuritkum Square, Digital Media City, Seoul.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) – uploaded by Softjuice ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log)


 * With Exif (5 different digicams in use in 1 year)
 * File:Miniature of DMC Landmark Building.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) – uploaded by Softjuice ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log) --> FUJIFILM FinePix S9600, taken on 04.01.2009
 * File:Parc 1 under construction at 20th August 2009.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) – uploaded by Softjuice ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log) --> FUJIFILM FinePix S9600, taken on 16.01.2009
 * File:Central Star under construction.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) – uploaded by Softjuice ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log) --> Nikon COOLPIX S200, taken on 26.10.2009
 * File:I& ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) – uploaded by Softjuice ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log) --> Canon EOS 500D, taken on 06.12.2009
 * File:WBC the Palace skyscrapers under construction.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) – uploaded by Softjuice ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log) --> Canon EOS 500D, taken on 23.12.2009
 * <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx" id="File:Parc1 under construction on 3rd January 2010 in Seoul, South Korea.jpg">File:Parc1 under construction on 3rd January 2010 in Seoul, South Korea.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) – uploaded by Softjuice ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log) --> Canon EOS Kiss Digital, taken on 01.01.2010
 * <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx" id="File:Metapolis skyscrapers in Hwaseong, South Korea.jpg">File:Metapolis skyscrapers in Hwaseong, South Korea.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) – uploaded by Softjuice ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log) --> Canon EOS 30D, taken on 06.01.2010

Gunnex (talk) 12:59, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
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File:Jenner on Wheaties cereal box.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: keep. I will note that User:Hullaballoo Wolfowitz's deletion rationale was based on something that was largely ignored in the nominator's rationale, as well as most of this discussion. User:Stefan2 brought up the issue slightly, but again, was largely a non-factor in the discussion at hand, which I can not justly weigh in as a factor at this time. I did not relist this discussion because it will, as the past has shown, go unnoticed, and it's unlikely this would be revisited by the participants when they believe the issue, which was something entirely different, has been settled. Any user is free to re-nominate this file for deletion under a different rationale, hopefully as articulate as Hullaballoo Wolfowitz. — ξ <sup style="color:#000000;">xplicit  03:13, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
 * File:Jenner on Wheaties cereal box.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) – uploaded by Mimi C. ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Unused FU file Diego Grez-Cañete (talk) 17:12, 18 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep. Bad-faith nomination. File is and was used on Caitlyn Jenner, complete with a valid and legal fair-use claim that meets WP:FUC. Nominator removed it from the article with a false claim of "Invalid fair use" a few seconds before nominating it for deletion here. Softlavender (talk) 17:26, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
 * I guess that "Invalid fair use" means that the user thinks that the file violates WP:NFCC. I think that it is inappropriate to boldly remove the file from the article. It is better to discuss NFCC compliance at FFD instead. There appears to be quite a lot of text about the box in the section in the article, so I'd say that WP:NFCC is satisfied, but I understand that others may have different opinions. --Stefan2 (talk) 18:16, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
 * I think it's overwhelmingly obvious that WP:NFCC is met. Softlavender (talk) 18:20, 18 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Speedy Keep per criterion #2 (bad faith nomination). VQuakr (talk) 18:06, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
 * I think you guys are going too far by assuming this is a bad faith nomination, when in fact, I think the use of the file is not justified, as there are free images available that illustrate the article. --Diego Grez-Cañete (talk) 03:51, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep When the image was first removed from Caitlyn Jenner, I did think that might have been justified given the brevity of the caption. So when I restored it, I used as a template the markup employed for the Vanity Fair cover below, including a fully descriptive caption. Given that, I now think the fair use rationale is as strong here as it is for the magazine cover. Barte (talk) 18:49, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Just a clarification: The caption does not create the fair use. The commentary in the article text does. There is an entire freaking subsection titled Wheaties spokesperson. -- Softlavender (talk) 18:57, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks...I didn't know that. Barte (talk) 19:08, 18 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep If there ever was an issue with the fair use rationale, it has been resolved. --Walnuts go kapow (talk) 18:53, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Speedy keep per criterion #2 (bad faith nomination).  21:52, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep. And create the fair use rationale by the comment: Jenner advertising Wheaties: ′Eat your corn-flakes and become a great soccer girl′. Pldx1 (talk) 08:22, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep. Has source, copyright tag and rationale and is used in an article according what appears to be a valid rationale. WP:NFCCE Finnusertop (talk &#124; guestbook &#124; contribs) 12:36, 19 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep per all the other keeps. -- <span style="text-shadow: 4px 4px 15px #0099FF, -4px -4px 15px #99FF00;">WV ● <span style="text-shadow: 4px 4px 15px #FF9900, -4px -4px 15px #FF0099;">✉ ✓  17:42, 23 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Strong delete. This is a paradigmatic NFCC failure. Nothing in the article text relates to the image itself. The relevant text in the article discusses Jenner's role as a spokesperson for the cereal maker; the box itself is ancillary to that role. Similarly, the caption text simply reports Jenner's appearance on the box, and in no way relates to the image involved. In marked contrast, the Vanity Fair cover is presented with sourced commentary directly addressing the specific image used, and is a paradigm for the proper justification of the use of a nonfree image. Also note that under the principles represented through WP:NFC#9, the cover itself needs to be needs to be the subject of sourced commentary in the article to justify the use of the nonfree image. You don't need a picture of a cereal box to understand that the article subject appeared on it, and that's all it's being used for. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo) (talk) 20:00, 23 October 2015 (UTC)


 * From the article: "In 1977, Jenner became a spokesperson for Wheaties brand breakfast cereal and appeared on the now iconic front of the cereal box. ... Jenner was the second of a succession of athletes featured as spokespersons for the brand. Mary Lou Retton succeeded Jenner in 1984." He was on every single Wheaties box for 7 years, and was Wheaties spokesperson for all of that time. This exposure increased his renown as a household name recognizable by persons of all ages enormously. There is an entire subtitled section in the article about it: Wheaties spokesperson. Can't get much more relevant than that, and the image of the cereal box is important to illustrate that fact and that renown (both because the image on the box indicates the level of his renown, and because it increased the universality of his renown, and because he was also Wheaties spokesperson). It is as Wheaties spokesperson/box-image that many people became aware of him; thus it was very pivotal in his career. Softlavender (talk) 07:52, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
 * And none of that has anything to do with our NFCC criteria, which require that the image itself be the subject of discussion, preferably sourced. You make a lot of claims, but none of them are sourced, here or in the article, and some are palpably absurd, in particular "the universality of his renown". The bottom line is that "to illustrate" is not, standing alone, enough to justify use of a nonfree image, because every use of an image illustrates. There are truckloads of magazine covers which had demonstrable impact on their subject's career, but so long as the impact can be adequately described in prose, nonfree use isn't justified under our policy/guidelines. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo) (talk) 17:09, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
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File:Cornell emblem.png
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  04:02, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
 * File:Cornell emblem.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) – uploaded by Bcc07 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Violates WP:NFC §17. The main article uses File:Cornell Seal.svg, which is another copy of the same seal. Stefan2 (talk) 18:03, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
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File:Jordan Syria Locator.png
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by A file with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT ⚡ 04:02, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
 * File:Jordan Syria Locator.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) – uploaded by Zozo2kx ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Commons has a very similar locator map under the same name. I don't think that we need both maps. Stefan2 (talk) 19:40, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
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File:Metas.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by A file with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT ⚡ 05:03, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
 * File:Metas.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) – uploaded by Spikezsh ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Derivative work of magazines. Stefan2 (talk) 19:42, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
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File:Jagannath Temple.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by A file with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT ⚡ 05:03, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
 * File:Jagannath Temple.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) – uploaded by Rjha ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Unused. Too low quality to be useful for anything. Stefan2 (talk) 21:53, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by A file with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT ⚡ 05:03, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
 * File:Pattonoswalt.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) – uploaded by Pointdefiance ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Unused userphoto. No foreseeable use. OTRS needed from the uploader's friend. Stefan2 (talk) 21:54, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  05:03, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
 * File:Naresh Vijay.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) – uploaded by Chrameshvarma ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

With free licence but FUR. If non-free, then the file violates WP:NFCC. If free, then there is no evidence of permission. Stefan2 (talk) 22:39, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
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