Wikipedia:Files for deletion/Replaceable fair use/File:Aa!.jpg


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of a fair use image as a replaceable image. Please do not modify it. 

The result was to delete the image.

—Angr 18:25, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Statement against speedy deletion
I have provided the fair use rationale for this promotional photo on its page. It has been properly attributed and I am very disgusted with the attempt to remove it and similar photographs. -- Cjmarsicano 03:20, 28 April 2007 (UTC) Now, if the Wikimedia Foundation was willing to finance a trip to Japan for me (since as the head of WikiProject:Hello! Project, this would be my responsibility) and arrange photo sessions with all the existing Hello! Project personalities through their talent agency, Up-Front Works, so that they could have their precious "free images" (leaving only promo photos of disbanded groups or departed individuals to remain), then we can talk. Until then, the promo photos will have to do. --CJ Marsicano 04:22, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
 * The rational failed to explain why it's no possible to create a free alternative for this image. --Abu badali (talk) 21:56, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Rationale has been updated. As this is an inactive band, which was only active for a short period of time, finding a license-free image would be nothing short of a miracle. It should be added that the free use policy does explicitly allow for this usage for broken up bands. -- Shiori 02:10, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
 * What about free images of the individuals? --Abu badali (talk) 13:23, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
 * There aren't any free images of anyone in the Hello! Project collective - singularly or collectively. Cameras aren't allowed at their shows and they don't exactly walk around in public. The articles would be best served by a picture of the band representative of the visual image they were putting over when the single was released. --CJ Marsicano 15:02, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
 * But the individuals do exists outside of this "Hello! Project" thing, didn't they? --Abu badali (talk) 20:02, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Could you redefine/rephrase that question, please? --CJ Marsicano 01:20, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Why can't a free picture of this people be taken after the show? --Abu badali (talk) 04:08, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Also an impossibility since the band members will just get whisked out of the venue by their handlers after the show &mdash; too many stalkers. --CJ Marsicano 12:49, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Maybe you're just being too pessimistic. Commons has a lot of images of Hollywood stars and thy are not necessarily people stumble upon at the bakery. --Abu badali (talk) 02:29, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Truth be told, I am being realistic. The only adequate photographs that can be used on Wikipedia for Hello! Project artists are the ones that they give away themselves - which are the same ones WikiProject:Hello! Project have been using for quite some time.
 * There are Wikipedians in Japan already. Also, I'm aware of no police that says every article needs a picture. Sometime, it's better to use no image than an unfree one. --Abu badali (talk) 16:29, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Fine. Ask one of them to try to get "free" pictures of H!P personalities. It isn't going to happen, and neither is the non-existence of pictures of any article under WikiProject:Hello! Project. In fact, I highly recommend leaving any article WP:H!P covers alone. --CJ Marsicano 02:50, 4 May 2007 (UTC)~
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