Wikipedia:Files for deletion/Replaceable fair use/File:AntarcticAirNewZealandRoute.jpg


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of a fair use image as a replaceable image. Please do not modify it. 

The result was to delete the image.

Regarding first fair use criterion
Unfortunately, this is not a replaceable image. It can't be replaced with a free alternative, because it's not essentially a map; it's a part of the brochure by Air New Zealand that contains a map. If replaced with a free version of the map, you lose the authenticity of the image; this was the actual brochure that the people who wanted to go on trips consisting of flights such as Air New Zealand Flight 901. In my opinion, the image should be removed altogether if a free version is uploaded in place. For more information, please see its usage in Air New Zealand Flight 901, a good article to which it adds significantly. &mdash; † Webdinger BLAH 03:28, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I agree.--RedMC 14:03, 28 November 2006 (UTC)


 * I don't understand why the specific map used in the brochure adds to the article in ways that a free map would not. – Quadell (talk) (random) 16:14, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I flipped the map so that north faced up but seeing as the fair use rationale was authenticity, I've reverted to the previous version. But I'm just letting you know that the north-up version is there if anyone wants it. - Gobeirne 18:21, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

This image should be deleted, as it is possible for anyone with the skill to make a map showing the itinerary. Needing to use the actual map from the actual brochure seems of no importance, unless the claim is made that that map was somehow germane to the article -- for instance, if the map gave a false impression to tourists of the danger of the expedition, or something. That claim isn't made in the article. The caption in the article is "A map of the route taken by flights from New Zealand to Antarctica, which can be found on brochures from Air New Zealand." If the caption was "Infamous 'Death Map' which lured hundreds of naive tourists to their doom by falsifying geography", that would be different. Herostratus 02:23, 29 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Agree with Herostratus here. But please do find an interested in the subject editor known for to have drawn and uploaded maps and ask him to help as the image does provide the necessary info. But no need to use a copyrighted image here. Much better to make a free replacement. --Irpen 02:37, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
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