Wikipedia:Files for deletion/Replaceable fair use/File:Bigbreak.jpg


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of a fair use image as a replaceable image. Please do not modify it. 

The result was to delete the image.

Replaceable
These beaches are public space - anyone could go to the beach where the CCFC people are and take a picture. Thus this image can reasonably be replaced by a free image. So, according to WP:NFCC, this image doesn't meet our standards for nonfree use. &mdash; Carl (CBM · talk) 19:56, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Your statement above is incorrect. "Anyone" cannot possibly cover this. You would have to have the means to go to one of the beaches on the east coast in the United States during one of the three weeks during the year when Big Break is happening. You would also have to figure out who is participating in the event. There aren't big banners or signs. Just individual (or maybe pairs of) students going up to random people on the beach to chat about God. Try picking that out from a crowd? That's why it is so helpful to use an image provided by the orgranization for this express purpose. Capturing this type of image is beyond the means of almost anyone. --Sixtrojans 11:56, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Also, since this image was uploaded in APRIL 2006 (before July 2006), it is entitled to 7 days of disucssion -- not 48 hours. Why does the template say Sunday even though old image=yes is properly noted in the template? --Sixtrojans 12:03, 25 August 2007 (UTC)


 * I don't know why. I'll see if I can fix that. &mdash; Carl (CBM · talk) 14:18, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Not Replaceable
The policy states:
 * No free equivalent. Non-free content is used only where no free equivalent is available or could be created that would serve the same encyclopedic purpose. If non-free content can be transformed into free material, this is done instead of using a fair-use defense. Non-free content is always replaced with a freer alternative if one of acceptable quality is available. "Acceptable quality" means a quality sufficient to serve the encyclopedic purpose. (As a quick test, ask yourself: "Can this image be replaced by a different one, while still having the same effect?" If the answer is yes, then the image probably does not meet this criterion.)

Since no one else has gone to one of these beaches during a Big Break event to photograph the event in progress, there is no "free" alternative available. The source being used is from a media kit -- released by the organization for the express purpose of being used by other publications to illustrate stories about Campus Crusade for Christ, which is exactly what is being done here. There is no violation of the fair use criteria. --Sixtrojans 20:16, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
 * It doesn't matter if there is a replacement already - the policy says "or could be created" for that reason. In any case, another admin will review this in a few days and decide. &mdash; Carl (CBM · talk) 20:22, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
 * ''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it.