Wikipedia:Files for deletion/Replaceable fair use/File:Crown of Queen Elizabeth The Queen Mother.PNG


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of a fair use image as a replaceable image. Please do not modify it. 

The result was to delete the image.

—Angr 14:52, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

If there is less restricted image available, I haven't found it.--Nemonoman 02:20, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
 * If this object is on display somewhere it should be possible to obtain a photograph under a free license.--Oden 01:24, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks for clarifying that the world should be a better place conforming to your expectations. Those of us still based in reality have not yet found the free license photograph that it "should be possible to obtain". Perhaps instead of dreaming of a better world, you'll actually find a photo, or not make a big deal about this one.--Nemonoman 03:00, 16 December 2006 (UTC)


 * 1) Read Civility, Assume good faith and No personal attacks. If you want to gripe about user behaviour then this is not the place to do so.
 * 2) I do not have to find a replacement image under a free license. Wikipedia's policy on the matter is clear: if the image could be replaced by another under a free license then the image does not meet the Fair use criteria. Read Image use policy.
 * 3) Finally, the RFU tag was added by User:Mecu (diff).--Oden 05:05, 16 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Hi Oden. Thanks for telling me to read Civility and Assume good Faith. If you care to explain where I was uncivil or not assuming good faith, I'd be grateful.


 * It is all very well to say that a free license image should be available. Please assume good faith on my part when I tell you that I don't know of one, and that I have looked. I'm sure we are all hoping for a better world where one appears.


 * The object (The Crown of England) is not "on display somewhere". It is owned and displayed by the British Government that controls its photographing. Because of it is owned and controlled by the British Government, it is not like somebody simply can take a snapshot.


 * The image shown is released under that English license. As such, this image meets current fair use guidelines. See the license page. IF A better-rights image is found, let's by all means have it. In its absence, maintaining this image is, as I understand it, within current usage scope. --Nemonoman 07:02, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
 * According to Crown of Queen Elizabeth, "It is now on display in the Jewel House in the Tower of London." Thus a freely licensed photograph could be made. —Angr 14:52, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. 

The absurdity of this decision is astonishing. There is no generally availabel image of the crown on display, as photography of the display is controlled by British Government. The image presented met acceptable fair use criteria under these circumstances. That the decision has ignored this fact is breathtaking in its ignorance. --Nemonoman 16:10, 26 December 2006 (UTC)