Wikipedia:Files for deletion/Replaceable fair use/File:Faces-of-meth.jpg


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of a fair use image as a replaceable image. Please do not modify it. 

The result was to delete the image.

Deletion dispute
This is certainly not a an image that is easily replaceable with a free one and that assertion is frankly stupid. What do you expect? That a wikipedian find the nearest meth-addict, ask if they can snap their photo, then ask if they can have a nearly identical photo from a few months back so they can make a similar comparison? Please. -- Grandpafootsoldier 21:36, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
 * WP:NFCC doesn't say "easily replaceable"; it says "no free equivalent is available or could be created". And in this case, I'm sure that there do exist pictures of people addicted to meth (sadly), along with images taken before the person used it.  ShadowHalo 22:35, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, the tag here says a free image that can "reasonably be found or created that adequately provides the same information". If you tell me where I might find one I am certainly open to it. -- Grandpafootsoldier 02:54, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
 * That's not my responsibility. It's the onus of the person uploading the file to demonstrate that it meets WP:NONFREE.  ShadowHalo 02:55, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, I would have thought if it was possible to reasonably obtain a comparable free image you could have at least given me an example, but I guess you would rather just help prove my point. Fine, I'll just state what I said in the first place again. There is no way a comparable free image can be reasonably found or created because of the inherent difficulty in doing so. -- Grandpafootsoldier 19:50, 29 June 2007 (UTC)


 * @ShadowHalo, well, of course there are images on the internet of meth users before and after the usage. BUT you have to find those... And then its questionable if you could use them. I do not agree with deletion... This image clearly shows the effects of this drug and that is what people should see. MihaS 11:43, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
 * By your own admission, it's possible to find or create a free alternative. It doesn't matter if this picture works well or not; that has nothing to do with whether or not it's replaceable.  ShadowHalo 20:44, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

If you go to http://www.crystalrecovery.com/Pages/MethUsers.html you will see many images, including the disputed image. Contact that website and ask for their permission to use one of the images on Wikipedia.

Not agree with deletion
This picture shows pretty well the effects of the drug, i think if the pic is real and accurate it should not be replaced.
 * The issue isn't whether or not the picture is good. The issue is if it meets the first criterion for using copyrighted media, which states that if a free image could be created to replace it, then a copyrighted image should not be used.  ShadowHalo 03:12, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

==I second the not agree with deletion== This picture is worth a million words, especially to students in classrooms learning about the harmful effects of drug use.
 * That's lovely. And has nothing to do with whether or not the image is replaceable.  ShadowHalo 21:01, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

An equivalent image could be created, and that image could be freely licensed. Therefore this image is "replaceable", and fails the first test of our non-free content policy. -- Quadell 'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'