Wikipedia:Files for deletion/Replaceable fair use/File:SMScontroller.jpg


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of a fair use image as a replaceable image. Please do not modify it. 

The result was to delete the image.

These controllers (and this system) are rare, but not so rare as for it to be unreasonable to obtain a free image of one. Moreover, the legal fair use claim for an image from that source is shaky at best. --RobthTalk 06:08, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

I am currently in discussion about the status of this image license with User:Angr. Please do not do anything until it is sorted out. Thanks. Starze 04:23, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
 * On my talk page you wrote "There are countless pics of similar controllers, but there are none quite like this one. The wires showing up at the top and side make this pic one of a kind." The question is, are these controllers (with the wires at the top and on the side) still around? It is reasonable to expect that someone owns them, or could find them at a collector's show or the like? If so, then this image is replaceable, because it would be possible for someone to make a freely licensed image conveying the same information. Wikipedia's fair use policy only allows fair use images if it would be impossible (or prohibitively difficult) for someone to make a free equivalent -- even if such a free equivalent does not exist at the moment. —Angr 20:32, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
 * The side wire ones are not easy to come by since they were manufactured 20 years ago and discontinued. I might just have to settle for an alternative. But what possible license change would allow the pic to stay?  My understanding is that the pic suited all fair use policies in early 2006.  If a year later in 2007, the policies are reapplied.... am I wasting time trying to put up a 2nd pic that might violate a 2008 policy?  Since I do not own this controller, the next pic will likely be fairuse again.  Thanks for the reply.  Starze 03:27, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
 * The issue isn't so much the license itself as the question of replaceability. If you write a strong fair-use rationale explaining why this image could not be replaced with a freely licensed one, the image is likely not to be deleted. —Angr 10:08, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Here is the rationale I would use. Do you think it is good enough for the long haul? I am open to any suggestions.
 * (www.vidgame.net, fairusein|Sega Master System, This image is unreplacable under the circumstances that the controller with the wires from the side are obsolete. They are manufactured more than 20 years ago, and any replacable image will likely reuse the same fairuse license.  The image was also uploaded in early 2006 when all license policies were complied.) Starze 05:11, 4 January 2007 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it.