Wikipedia:Files for deletion/Replaceable fair use/File:Silverberg & Gates.jpg


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of a fair use image as a replaceable image. Please do not modify it. 

The result was to delete the image.

—Angr 16:01, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

What's wrong with this image?
I have no idea why a bot wants this image deleted again. May a human please explain it to me? Please don't just delete the image without any explanation, just the way it went the last time. --tyomitch 18:46, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm not a bot! Unless I'm a bot that's been programmed to think it's a human.


 * The issue here is that this is a fair-use image being used to illustrate the Brad Silverberg article. We can only use fair-use images if they're irreplaceable, i.e. if no free image exists or could be created. Since Silverberg is still alive, he could be asked for a free image, or one could be taken of him; therefore, this should be deleted.


 * Hope this helps. &mdash; Chowbok  ☠  20:15, 14 December 2006 (UTC)


 * I don't see how this can happen. Should I email him a request for an appropriately-licensed photo of himself? I'm sure I have no chance of meeting him in person to make such a photo myself.
 * Anyway, who loses if this photo is kept here? MS isn't making money selling photos of their employees; how can existence of this photo here be a violation of their terms? --tyomitch 20:35, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
 * It's not a violation of their terms, it's a violation of our terms. We strive to be, as much as possible, a freely-redistributable encyclopedia. Every fair-use photo we have takes us further from that goal. In some cases it's unavoidable to have a fair-use photo, but this is not one of them.


 * While you might not encounter Silverberg in person, many people do; he gives talks and is generally seen in public so it would be possible for somebody to get a photo of him. That said, absolutely you can write him and ask for a photo, and I strongly encourage you to. Be aware of the possible pitfalls, however. Many people make the mistake of simply asking for a photo "for use on Wikipedia"; that's too limited for our purposes. We need something that can be copied by anybody, for any purpose (including commercial). See WP:ERP for boilerplate letters you can adapt. &mdash; Chowbok  ☠  20:52, 14 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Ok, sent an email to info@ignitionpartners.com. What else can I do to obtain a free image? During the two weeks while the image was deleted, noone on Wikipedia seemed to care. I can't just post a request for the photo at Village pump, can I? (Or maybe, there's a specific forum here for free image requests?) --tyomitch 21:36, 14 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Yep, it's at Requested pictures. Also, you can post reqphoto on the article's talk page (those go to two different places, so you probably want to do both). &mdash; Chowbok  ☠  22:29, 14 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Done both now. As a side note: isn't there a less frustrating way to discourage editors from using fair-use images? Like, maybe, diplaying a red border around them, instead of deleting completely? --tyomitch 23:15, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
 * There's a tag with a red border that appears for at least a week before the image is deleted. BTW, I'm the one who deleted it last time, and I'm not a bot either. I don't think there are any bots authorized to delete images. —Angr 16:01, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
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