Wikipedia:Files for deletion/Replaceable fair use/File:Willferguson.jpg


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of a fair use image as a replaceable image. Please do not modify it. 

The result was to delete the image.

If you think it's replaceable, then you figure out how to replace it and put the work into doing that. You certainly don't have any right to make that my job. Bearcat 07:13, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
 * It's absolutely not your job to find a replacement, and please be assured that I never meant to suggest it was. &mdash; Chowbok  ☠  07:41, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, somebody has to. So if that's not me, and it's not you, then would you at least consider my suggestion of implementing a project to deal with actively replacing fair use images, so that somebody can be entrusted with the actual responsibility this entails? Bearcat 08:39, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Our fair use policy forbids using a non-free image if a free image could be created that could be used in its place. See criterion #1 and counter-example #8. In this case, it would be possible to create a free image; therefore this non-free image may not be used. Whether a free replacement image exists or not at this time is not relevant. – Quadell (talk) (random) 18:03, 28 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Policy is not something to be reified or held above the good faith contributions of quality contributors. You can do whatever the hell you want with the image; I can't stop you. But I will continue to register my opinion that policy should prioritize the actual replacement of fair use images with GFDL-compatible ones over the theoretical possibility of such a replacement. Undermining contributors does not serve Wikipedia's goals regardless of the licensing issues involved; if policy can't be implemented without leaving good faith contributors feeling like they've been kicked in the nuts, then the problem is the policy, not the contributor. Bearcat 22:12, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Sounds like ownership of the article and image. See also WP:CIVIL. --Oden 13:52, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Try perfectly legitimate difference of opinion about the fundamental process of image replacement. I'd post exactly the same comment on an image I didn't upload, if necessary, but since the ones I uploaded are the only ones that I get notified about on my talk page, they're the only ones I know about. Bearcat 19:32, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Ok, but this is not the place to propose policy changes, only to discuss how it is implemented. --Oden 02:56, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Now that's a fascinating little distinction; as far as I'm concerned, "discussing how it is implemented" is exactly what I was doing. Bearcat 06:28, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I think what Oden means is that you should only discuss here the issues that relate to this image specifically. Pretty much all the arguments you've made, while reasonable and legitimate, could apply to any image that was tagged in this fashion. We're already having that argument in about 15 places, so rehashing everything here is just a bit inefficient. I would strongly encourage you to weigh in at one of the policy discussions at Village pump (policy), WP:VPP, or Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Fair use. &mdash; Chowbok  ☠  16:55, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
 * ''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it.