Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2015 November 29



File:Saint Kitts and Nevis passport.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: keep in Saint Kitts and Nevis passport, remove from Visa requirements for Saint Kitts and Nevis citizens. — ξ xplicit  07:34, 10 December 2015 (UTC)
 * File:Saint Kitts and Nevis passport.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) – uploaded by Twofortnights ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

File is being used in Saint Kitts and Nevis passport and Visa requirements for Saint Kitts and Nevis citizens. Non-free usage ins stand-alone article about passport seems OK, but usage in the "Visa requirements" article does not seem warranted per WP:NFCC and No. 6 of WP:NFC. The non-free rationale's purpose states "Primary means of identification of the article's subject." makes complete sense of the passport's article, but no sense at all for the "Visa requirements" article". -- Marchjuly (talk) 04:26, 29 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Remove from the article on visa requirements per WP:NFCC. Keep in the article about the passport. --Stefan2 (talk) 20:27, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
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File:Sanford Holman, Holman ASU 2-star.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted as F4 by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:02, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
 * File:Sanford Holman, Holman ASU 2-star.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) – uploaded by Seholman ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Likely work of US government, but uploader gave no information - see smaller copy on this website. Samsara 06:32, 29 November 2015 (UTC)
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File:Relief India Trust SMS Correspondence.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  21:11, 29 November 2015 (UTC)
 * File:Relief India Trust SMS Correspondence.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) – uploaded by DChinu ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Delete unused image that serves no encyclopedic purpose. Huon (talk) 10:52, 29 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Hello Huon, The file should be removed. Thank you for bringing this up. --DChinu (talk) 18:11, 29 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done Samsara 20:07, 29 November 2015 (UTC)
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File:Another Language Performing Arts Company co-founders Elizabeth and Jimmy Miklavcic.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  09:04, 10 December 2015 (UTC)
 * File:Another Language Performing Arts Company co-founders Elizabeth and Jimmy Miklavcic.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) – uploaded by Jhmiklavcic ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Fails WP:NFCC, rationale claims it illustrates "a historical moment in the formation of Another Language Performing Arts Company" but there is no mention of this in the article it is used in. January ( talk ) 17:57, 29 November 2015 (UTC)
 * I am very confused about how difficult it is to display an image of the co-founders of Another Language Performing Arts Company. Elizabeth and I are the Co-founding directors on the company, we own the image, we own the company and we are allowing the fair use of the image. Why is that an issue? Basically, we are granting rights to wikipedia to display it in this article. It is to appear on the Another Language Performing Arts Company page and nowhere else. I'm just not grokking what all the fuss is about. Further enlightenment is requested. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jhmiklavcic (talk • contribs) 11:44, 30 November 2015 (UTC+9)
 * Permission of the original copyright holder is not really needed for non-free content. All that matters is whether the desired usage in a Wikipedia article satisfies all 10 of the non-free content criteria listed in WP:NFCC. One of these criteria is WP:NFCC which basically states that the contextual significance has to be such that the non-free image significantly increases the reader's understanding of the subject matter to such a degree in a way that only text cannot achieve, so that omitting the image from the article would be detrimental to that understanding. Generally for articles such as this, it's the logo, etc. officially used by an organization as its primary means of identification which is allowed to be used. The problem with this particular photo is that is simply seems to show two people dancing. It's a nice photo, but its purpose appears to be primarily decorative and not something serving as the primary means of identification for the company itself. Simply adding a sentence saying "The co-founders are seen here performing 'Ignorance of Burden' choreographed by the co-founders in 1989." does not make the image historical per no original research unless reliable sources are cited in support which specifically discuss the image itself and say that it was a historical moment in the formation of the company.   Finally, the copyright holder of a photo is typically the photographer themselves, not the subject of the photo. If the photographer John Brandon transferred the copyright to you then you could donate the image to Wikipedia and use in the article without any restrictions; If they didn't transfer the copyright to you, then you can ask them for permission to freely license the image per Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission. Otherwise, I do not see how this particular usage will satisfy the NFCC. There is, however, the possibility that this logo from the company's official website could be used instead as a non-free logo. -- Marchjuly (talk) 04:53, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails WP:NFCC: not critically discussed. --Stefan2 (talk) 20:29, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
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File:Ronideluz mvmagazine1.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  09:04, 10 December 2015 (UTC)
 * File:Ronideluz mvmagazine1.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) – uploaded by Gil-galad1 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Uploader had no authority to license. They may have copied/extracted the image from a magazine, but that gives them no rights in the underlying image. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo) (talk) 18:13, 29 November 2015 (UTC)
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