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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  19:12, 6 March 2016 (UTC)
 * File:& ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) – uploaded by Setonb ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Unused, and in a bad file format for an image file; a png version exists: File:'Timorous' image, Pilgrim's Progress.png F ASTILY  09:49, 28 February 2016 (UTC)
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File:Surface2fruitsbasket.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  19:12, 6 March 2016 (UTC)
 * File:Surface2fruitsbasket.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) – uploaded by Mexp2 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Small size/low quality, poorly lit, probably a derivative of non-free content F ASTILY  10:18, 28 February 2016 (UTC)
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Partners (statue)

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The result of the discussion was: delete three czar  17:30, 6 March 2016 (UTC)
 * File:Cinderella Castle and Partners statue.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) – uploaded by Elisfkc ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log)
 * File:Partners Statue at Walt Disney Studios (Burbank).jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) – uploaded by Elisfkc ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log)
 * File:Partners Statue at Walt Disney Studios (Paris).jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) – uploaded by Elisfkc ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log)
 * File:Tokyo Disneyland Partners Statue.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) – uploaded by Elisfkc ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log)


 * The Partners (statue) article contains an image gallery of non-free images in violation of non-free content criterion 3 - minimal usage. The four listed images all appear in the gallery along with a Commons file which is out of scope for this discussion (and has been nominated for deletion at Commons).  A single image in the infobox would be appropriate, and the rest should be deleted.  As to which picture to use, my preference would be File:Cinderella Castle and Partners statue.jpg as being the most appropriate given the article description of first being erected for Mainstreet USA.  Note that this file has both tagging for non-free (for the statue), and GFDL1.2 / CC-BY-SA 3.0 for the rest of the image. -- Whpq (talk) 14:09, 28 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep they are five separate instances of the statue. One picture of each should be kept. Elisfkc (talk) 20:27, 28 February 2016 (UTC)
 * How does keeping 5 images of the statue meet our non-free content criteria, and in particular, the minimal use. The statues themselves are all copies and are essentially the same so a single image is sufficient for identification. -- Whpq (talk) 22:18, 28 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Agreed, only one should be kept per WP:NFCC (I have no preference as to which). – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 23:28, 28 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete all but one per nom. So... which one shall it be? Steel1943  (talk) 00:52, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete three The best to keep would be File:Cinderella Castle and Partners statue.jpg, as it was the original.  (Note that the fifth image, File:Partners.jpg, is hosted on Commons and up for deletion there.) Howicus (Did I mess up?) 22:39, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete three File:Tokyo Disneyland Partners Statue.jpg fails WP:FREER as it is unlicensed by the photographer, so the kept file needs to be one of the other files. File:Cinderella Castle and Partners statue.jpg looks like the best picture of the four. --Stefan2 (talk) 15:28, 2 March 2016 (UTC)
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File:Tulku screenshot.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  05:03, 7 March 2016 (UTC)
 * File:Tulku screenshot.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) – uploaded by Softlavender ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

The screenshot is used in the plot section of Tulku (film) against WP:FILMNFI in that the plot section describes the film and is not critical commentary of the image itself. There is no critical commentary of the image itself in the article, it does nothing to increase the reader's understanding of the film and its exclusion is not detrimental to the understanding of the film, thereby failing WP:NFCC. Aspects (talk) 23:39, 28 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep. File has always a fair-use rationale, and meets WP:NFCI #5: For critical commentary and discussion of the work in question (i.e., films, television programs, and music videos). Image is very small, low resolution, and is used for educational purposes in an encyclopedia. Does not infringe on or impact in any possible way the commercial profits of the filmmakers. The film is a documentary which explores complex topics, the main one of which is the filmmaker's close but complex relationship with his eloquent tulku mentor, Dzongsar Jamyang Khyentse Rinpoche, who is not shown in the DVD cover in the infobox. Readers therefore benefit from seeing Dzongsar Jamyang Khyentse Rinpoche with the filmmaker (the protagonist, who is also not shown on the DVD cover in the infobox [except as an infant]). Removing the image of the two main subjects of the film -- the protagonist and his well-known mentor -- from the article would be significantly detrimental to the reader's understanding of the film, therefore it meets WP:NFCC as well as all other WP:NFCC criteria. -- Softlavender (talk) 02:14, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete. Unlike video game screenshots, film screenshots, such as this one, fail WP:NFCC since text is sufficient enough to describe what is in the image without the image being present, especially in a "plot" or "synopsis" section. Steel1943  (talk) 20:58, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
 * WP:NFCC refers to media, not to words, and therefore this image meets WP:NFCC and all other WP:NFCC criteria. Also, since this film is a documentary, not a fiction, the summary of the film contains factual encyclopedic information rather than a fictional story; therefore illustrating the encyclopedic information and the two notable people therein greatly enhances the reader's understanding of that factual encyclopedic information. Removing the image of those two would be significantly detrimental to the reader's understanding of both the film and the encyclopedic non-fiction information it conveys. Softlavender (talk) 05:41, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
 * "...WP:NFCC refers to media, not to words..." No it doesn't. It means exactly what I said it means. The best example I can provide is a copyrighted graph that can be recreated as free with wikitext. Steel1943  (talk) 05:45, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
 * You are misunderstanding the clearly worded policy: "1. No free equivalent. Non-free content is used only where no free equivalent is available, or could be created, that would serve the same encyclopedic purpose." Words cannot possibly convey or be " equivalent " to an image and what it conveys, and can never serve the same encyclopedic purpose. That is why any image exists anywhere on Wikipedia. Softlavender (talk) 06:34, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
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File:Seth and Kane.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  05:03, 7 March 2016 (UTC)
 * File:Seth and Kane.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) – uploaded by Softlavender ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

The screenshot is used in the cast information section of Cosmopolitan (film) talking about the "conflicting acting styles", the consistent theatrical acting of Seth versus the improvisational acting of Kane. The concept of numerous rehearsals versus just acting in front of the camera would make it hard for any single image from the film to be able to show the conflicting styles. Having an image from the film trying to show preparations taken before filming began seems futile because few times do behind the scenes problems give rise to on screen evidence. There is no critical commentary of the image itself in the article, it does nothing to increase the reader's understanding of the film and its exclusion is not detrimental to the understanding of the film, thereby failing WP:NFCC. Aspects (talk) 23:58, 28 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep. File has always a fair-use rationale, and meets WP:NFCI #5: For critical commentary and discussion of the work in question (i.e., films, television programs, and music videos). Image is absolutely tiny, low resolution, and is used for educational purposes in an encyclopedia. Does not infringe on or impact in any conceivable way the commercial profits of the filmmakers. Since the film poster in the infobox of the romance film only shows one of the two leads, the screenshot is necessary for the reader to grasp the full impact of the film and the discussion about it, which is solely about the relationship between two characters, and two actors. Therefore the usage definitely meets WP:NFCC as well as all other WP:NFCC. Its exclusion would definitely be detrimental to the reader's understanding of the film. Softlavender (talk) 02:22, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete. Unlike video game screenshots, film screenshots, such as this one, fail WP:NFCC since text is sufficient enough to describe what is in the image without the image being present, especially in a "plot" or "synopsis" section. Steel1943  (talk) 20:59, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
 * , this is not in a "plot" or "synopsis" section. It is in the "Cast Information" section; where it is more than appropriate to show the two leads -- who are not depicted in the DVD cover -- of this romance film. Moreover, since the two leads and two characters are of different races/ethnicities/skin colors, it becomes even more relevant and important, as this difference is the main plotpoint of the film. Moreover, WP:NFCC refers to media, not to words, and therefore this image meets WP:NFCC and all other WP:NFCC criteria. Softlavender (talk) 05:33, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Close enough. The image isn't necessary when it can be explained by text alone. Steel1943  (talk) 05:46, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
 * No images anywhere on any article are "necessary". We are discussing fair-use polices and criteria, and this image meets all of Wikipedia's and it more than meets legal fair-use criteria. Softlavender (talk) 06:28, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
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