Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2016 July 11



File:Dreamcastblue.png

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  22:05, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
 * File:Dreamcastblue.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Capsoul ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Commons already has File:Dreamcast logo.svg, which can be turned blue if necessary. (See Commons category for more.) File in question is currently orphaned. czar 08:47, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
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File:GT5 CollectorEdition.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  23:01, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
 * File:GT5 CollectorEdition.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Cheekeong123 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Very low quality image. Subject—a collector's edition—is copyrighted artwork. If the artwork were to be removed, this image would lose its educational value. czar 09:09, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
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File:Flag of the Lao People&

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted as F8 by A file with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT ⚡ 07:03, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
 * File:Flag of the Lao People& ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Trust Is All You Need ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

This is currently used on User:Regnator/sandbox, which is a violation of WP:NFCC. However, I'm not sure if the file meets the threshold of originality. Stefan2 (talk) 09:26, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
 * It's a minimally modified hammer and sickle. It isn't a wholly unique shape like File:Prince logo.svg, for example. I'd say it's more likely than not PD.Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 12:41, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
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File:ABS-CBNNCA.svg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted as F8 by A file with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT ⚡ 07:03, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
 * File:ABS-CBNNCA.svg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Jrdo kid ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

This is used on Template:ABS-CBN News personalities in violation of WP:NFCC and on various other pages in violation of WP:NFCC, possibly through transclusion of the template. However, I'm not sure if the file meets the threshold of originality. Stefan2 (talk) 09:30, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Another editor removed it from the template. It's now only in use on ABS-CBN News and Current Affairs. Does this satisfy your concerns? ~ Rob 13 Talk 22:43, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
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File:David T. Abercrombie.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted as F5 by AnomieBOT ⚡  03:02, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
 * File:David T. Abercrombie.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Beyond My Ken ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Non-free image replaced by File:David Abercrombie crop.png, which is free. User:Beyond My Ken removed the orphaned non-free deletion tag and has been re-adding it to articles against WP:NFCC. Listing here so that it can be deleted for good as a free replacement exists. Stifle (talk) 09:37, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
 * I can shed some additional light on this. Per the original upload, the source for this image was . The site is no longer live, but can be browsed in the Internet Archive. I was able to locate the image in context here: . Happily, the site owner indicated where he got it from. Unhappily, he got it from here: File:Dabercrombie.png. uploaded it in 2007 with the summary "Subject Deceased before 1923", which isn't the case. He did not indicate a source of the upload. He hasn't edited since 2013 and may not recall where he got it after all this time. I've asked anyway: User_talk:Nenyedi. The file was deleted at PUF in 2010 for lack of source information and unclear copyright status: Possibly unfree files/2010 August 1. That gets us back to 2007 on image source but doesn't resolve the underlying question. Mackensen (talk) 11:34, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
 * File:Ezra Fitch.png is clearly drawn from the same source, which may help track it down. It was uploaded as File:Ezrafitch.png here and deleted at PUF for the same reason: Possibly_unfree_files/2010_August_1. No one ever followed it up Commons, where it's ascribed (without proof) to the Bain News Service. I've followed up on Commons with the user (not BMK) who made that claim. It's turtles all the way down, isn't it? Mackensen (talk) 11:48, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
 * This issue of Forbes seems to confirm that the photograph of Fitch, wherever it came from, was originally published before 1923. Mackensen (talk) 18:55, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment: Incidentally if the outcome of this is that the image is found to be verifiably free, then absolutely it should stay. Stifle (talk) 16:19, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
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File:Cartridgegames.JPG

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 * File:Cartridgegames.JPG ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Altarbo ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Derivative work of cartridge art. Many free use alternatives available on Commons with non-copyrighted cartridge art. czar 18:10, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
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File:Dangerous Woman Japan.png

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The result of the discussion was: Delete ★ Bigr   Tex  21:36, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
 * File:Dangerous Woman Japan.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by U990467 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Image was previously deleted, per reasons of 3a and 8. Image is not required to further enhance the editor's understanding of the article, and its difference(s) from the standard edition can be explained merely by a few words within the article should it be necessary.  livelikemusic    talk!  22:07, 11 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep: Japanese cover used image entire different from the standard and deluxe edition. Grande also didn't wear the rabbit headwear in the Japanese cover. Actually, it can NOT be completely described with only few words. Totally, it doesn't fail WP:NFCC. You can also refer to Delirium, Pure Heroine and Piece by Piece. U990467 (talk) 04:45, 12 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Comment: Not trying to do the WP:Other Stuff Exists schtick, but the Japanese cover is different enough from the standard and deluxe cover art that it's presence on the article would help the reader's understanding of the Japanese album. 3a and 8 don't explicitly imply that every album article should have one non-free image. WP:NFCC seems to discourage the addition of artwork that is similar, ex. the standard and deluxe arts of albums such as Title, Thank You, and Reflection have only slight variations in their covers and can be described in few words, whereas the standard and Japanese artworks of albums such as Dangerous Woman, Delirium, Pure Heroine, etc. have very different artworks. WP:NFCC doesn't necessarily discourage the addition of the extra album cover, but implies that there should be one primary non-free image for each article, unless it is different enough that it would be beneficial for the reader's understanding. ilovemusic  (Talk To Me!)  17:58, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
 * No that's an incorrect understanding. Our long stand on extra covers has been regarding wide identifiability and third party notability regarding them. — I B  [ Poke ] 11:15, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
 * I was giving my own interpretation and understanding of what the article said. Wouldn't a pressing that is available for a specific country discourage the "local" labeling? I honestly have no preference on whether or not the Japanese image stays on the article. If we're going by the "wide identifiability and third party notability", shouldn't the Piece by Piece box-set image be nominated as well? ilovemusic  (Talk To Me!)  22:52, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
 * The PBP cover is drastically different from the actual cover passing identifiability. — I B  [ Poke ] 09:10, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete Per nominator and failure of WP:NFCC#3a and 8. A different cover does not necessarily justify inclusion, it has to be widely distributed not just a local market cover. And they are not that different also. — I B  [ <b style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;color:#1C1CF0;">Poke</b> ] 11:15, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
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