Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2016 July 9



File:A picture of myself.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  22:12, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
 * File:A picture of myself.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by SoggyCabbages ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

This image is not currently useful, and it probably won't be useful in the future. As of now, it's only being used in a sandbox page. Sunmist3 (talk) 00:07, 9 July 2016 (UTC)
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File:Self portrait of Wikipedian &

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  22:12, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
 * File:Self portrait of Wikipedian & ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Hueydoc ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Orphaned, low quality, personal photo with no encyclopedic value. Sunmist3 (talk) 00:19, 9 July 2016 (UTC)
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File:Self-iii--8-2-06--lorez.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  17:09, 28 September 2016 (UTC)
 * File:Self-iii--8-2-06--lorez.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Ambrosiaturner ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Orphaned personal photo with little encyclopedic value. Will probably not have any use in the future. Sunmist3 (talk) 00:24, 9 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Anne Tardos has an article, but I am not sure it's the same person at all.Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 20:33, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
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File:2014 Tallinn Black Nights Film Festival&

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  17:09, 28 September 2016 (UTC)
 * File:2014 Tallinn Black Nights Film Festival& ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Hanaava ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Derivative of non-free content (screen)  F ASTILY   08:40, 9 July 2016 (UTC)
 * I suspect de minimis might apply here, or will if the screen is pixelated. I see the Flickr account is attributed to a group and tagged "All rights reserved"; did the license change at some point? Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 20:35, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
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File:21st Century Exposition Token.png

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  17:09, 28 September 2016 (UTC)
 * File:21st Century Exposition Token.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by David Condrey ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Derivative of non-free content (coin)  F ASTILY   08:42, 9 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Given the publication date and the lack of a copyright notice, PD-US-no notice may apply.Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 10:50, 9 July 2016 (UTC)
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File:4 month chip.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  05:03, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
 * File:4 month chip.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by VisaBlack ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Unused, possible derivative of non-free content (coin)  F ASTILY   08:43, 9 July 2016 (UTC)
 * No comments. Defaults to delete. Image deleted by . Bot will close this one up. --Majora (talk) 03:58, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
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File:Careers360 Logo.png

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted as F5 by AnomieBOT ⚡  06:04, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
 * File:Careers360 Logo.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Alphaq21 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

This logo was listed as F5 deletion request, but it doesn't seem to meet TOO. May be moved to Commons or deleted as useless instead. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 09:12, 9 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete If it were tagged as PD-logo, I'd nominate it as "Orphaned logo" instead of moving it to Commons. Careers360 has so far been speedied three times, G11 in 2013 and 2014 and A7 recently, and Careers 360 was deleted through AfD here.  If someone recreates the article someday in a way that meets our notability criteria, and looks at what links to them and finds my comments, I'd be happy to undelete and relicense this logo for them then. ★  Bigr   Tex  19:38, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
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File:Playdead logo.gif

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted as F8 by A file with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT ⚡ 11:06, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
 * File:Playdead logo.gif ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Nhatlinh1704 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

I've declined an F5 deletion request on this logo as it doesn't seem to meet the TOO. Dunno if it meets the treshold of originality of Denmark, the site of the company. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 09:25, 9 July 2016 (UTC)
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File:TFPatch.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Keep for use in 2016 Atlanta Braves season ★ Bigr   Tex  19:44, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
 * File:TFPatch.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by VegasCasinoKid ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Image is a non-free logo/patch which is being claimed to be used for "used to identify Turner Field", but that purpose is being served by File:NLE-ATL-Turner.PNG in the infobox for Turner Field, and thus fails WP:NFCC as we do not need two non-free items to serve this purpose. It's usage is actually in a section of the article on the replacement for the field, and it's usage there is decorative as the patch is not the subject of sourced commentary, nor does it's removal detract from the understanding by readers that this is the final season of play at Turners Field thus failing WP:NFCC. Whpq (talk) 11:22, 9 July 2016 (UTC)
 * this actually belongs on the 2016 Atlanta Braves season page as it commemorates the final season of the Braves playing at Turner Field before they move to another ballpark next year. VegasCasinoKid (talk) 18:34, 9 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Changing it to the 2016 season page removes the objection to NFCC#3a, but I don't see that it's use in the 2016 season article passes NFCC#8 as it still appears to be decorative. -- Whpq (talk) 10:23, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
 * "Decorative" is defined by WP:NFCC as "having no use for the article", right? VegasCasinoKid (talk) 10:42, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
 * No, it isn't defined at all. I am saying that it is decorative and fails to satisfy requirement of WP:NFCC which is a summary of the criteria as outlined in WP:Non-free content.  Note that contextual significance is more than simply being useful to the article. -- Whpq (talk) 11:06, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
 * well how can we get the image to satisfy the contextual requirement, then? VegasCasinoKid (talk) 13:53, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
 * You will need to find sourced commentary about the image and it's significance to the topic and explain why the lack of the image would be detrimental to the understanding of the topic. To be honest, I'm not convince that would be possible. -- Whpq (talk) 13:16, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Are you saying we need to cite a source for the image? I mean, it's clear this patch depicts the Braves last season at the ballpark.  VegasCasinoKid (talk) 00:13, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
 * That's not what was meant. The article itself needs to have sourced commentary about the patch. -- Whpq (talk) 11:04, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

Maybe these could be made to work somehow: Braves planning commemoration of final season at the Ted, LOOK: The Braves will wear a patch for their final season in Turner Field. -- Marchjuly (talk) 14:23, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
 * IMO that should work. The significance of the image is that it was issued to commemorate the last season in the Turner field. If such commemorative usage is documented in the article, the image would have a fair use for identification of the work and the commemorated season. I've updated the image rationale to register such use. Diego (talk) 15:04, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
 * That's what I call citing sources. I've been trying to make sense of the "image has the rationale, but the article doesn't need the image" attitude since day one.  Thanks, .  VegasCasinoKid (talk) 16:44, 16 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Those "not needed" comments have little value in discussion. Policy says that contextual significance is met when the image has due weight and balance in the article. Diego (talk) 21:40, 16 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Policy (WP:NFCC) seems to say that an image is not needed when unless it's inclusion improves the reader's understanding to such a degree that removing the image would be detrminental to that understanding. Simply adding a rationale does not mean a particular non-free use complies with all 10 of the non-free content criteria. According to WP:NFC, one way of show that NFCC#8 is met is by including reliablely sourced content about the non-free image the file. Reliably sourced content is important, in my opinion, because it reduces the possibility of what is written being removed as WP:UNSOURCED or as WP:OR. As for the "not needed" arguments, WP:NFCCP begins with non-free use is not automatic. "Not needed" and "decorative" are often used interchangeabley to describe non-free images be mainly added to articles for show. Simply adding a file with a caption to an article in and off itself does not make non-free use OK. Which is why I feel it would be better to probably include more of the commemorative things being done, including information about the patch itself, by the Braves in their last season at Turner in the article to strengthen the case for the non-free file inclusion. "Due weight" and "balance" are much easier to show when the is something actually about the non-free image within the article which reflects what reliable sources say about it. There should be a way to include what this source says about the patch in the article and there may also be similar sources discussing the patch as well. -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:55, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
 * That goes back to citing sources for the images, then. I'm not saying the nominator is a bad person, but I felt it just didn't make sense to think that it had no significance to the article it was posted to.  I think this discussion sheds a little light to the whole purpose of the WP:NFCC criteria (aside from the fact that the image can only be used on mainspace article pages).  VegasCasinoKid (talk) 11:47, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
 * To summerize, I'm happy to discuss the issue. If the image gets deleted, I have no hard feelings.  Conflicts are a way of life here, but the fact it was discussed makes me feel good.  Experience is the best teacher, and with that I've decided to move on and leave the image's fate in the hands of the person closing the discussion.   VegasCasinoKid (talk) 04:30, 18 July 2016 (UTC)
 * I've added the sourced commentary to the article's prose, as suggested by Whpq and Marchjuly. Diego (talk) 08:38, 18 July 2016 (UTC)
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File:John+Evangeline-Easton+Goldsberry.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  22:12, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
 * File:John+Evangeline-Easton+Goldsberry.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by TAnthony ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Non-free image claimed to be used as primary means of identification but that role is filled by File:Goldsberry as Evangeline.png. Fails WP:NFCC, and its use in the article fails WP:NFCC. Whpq (talk) 12:43, 9 July 2016 (UTC)
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File:Hu-ucb-2004-6.JPG

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  22:12, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
 * File:Hu-ucb-2004-6.JPG ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Judyan wiki ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

No confirmation that the uploader is the copyright holder. The image was already in use on the internet before it was uploaded here – see e.g., here and here. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 13:11, 9 July 2016 (UTC)
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File:Troubadour drawing.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Non-free revision removed. Majora (talk) 01:34, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
 * File:Troubadour drawing.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Stoa ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

The second revision of this file appears to be a somewhat differently coloured copy of File:Cover - troubadour.jpg which is non-free. It should be deleted as F5. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 14:48, 9 July 2016 (UTC)


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File:1956 OG Course areas.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Non-free revision removed Majora (talk) 02:23, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
 * File:1956 OG Course areas.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by NED33 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

According to https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:1956_OG_Course_areas.jpg&oldid=371066025 the older revision is actually non-free and should probably be deleted under F5. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 14:53, 9 July 2016 (UTC)


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File:SERPENT team.png
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The result of the discussion was: Non-free revision removed Majora (talk) 02:21, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
 * File:SERPENT team.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Moi Magnum ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

The second revision of this file appears to be unfree (c.f. File:Vernon Vipers logo.svg) and should be deleted under F5. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 15:54, 9 July 2016 (UTC)


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File:Royce Hall, University of California, Los Angeles (2007).jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Keep Majora (talk) 03:04, 4 September 2016 (UTC)
 * <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx" id="File:Royce Hall, University of California, Los Angeles (2007).jpg">File:Royce Hall, University of California, Los Angeles (2007).jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Nikkul ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

The revision uploaded by Rivastreetrep appears to exist elsewhere on the web in higher resolution (e.g http://wegoinin.com/2009/09/24/alexander-the-great-does-justice-to-a-preemo-beat/), making its copyright status questionable. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 16:01, 9 July 2016 (UTC)
 * The file has been reverted to its original image. The file history needs to have 's upload expunged.  —   fourthords  &#124; =Λ= &#124;  21:59, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Marked image with a revdel request template. Will close this as keep as soon as that is done. --Majora (talk) 02:59, 4 September 2016 (UTC)


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File:StarTrek Logo.png
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The result of the discussion was: Revisions incorporating the Enterprise deleted Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 20:21, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
 * File:StarTrek Logo.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Hirak 99 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Previous versions of this file incorporated NFC and need to be deleted, but I cannot find any appropriate template or page. —  fourthords  &#124; =Λ= &#124;  21:35, 9 July 2016 (UTC)
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File:Louisiana Gubernatorial Election 2015.gif
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The result of the discussion was: Wrong forum. The file is on Commons. Please nominate it for deletion there if you still feel it should be deleted. AnomieBOT ⚡ 23:01, 9 July 2016 (UTC)
 * File:Louisiana Gubernatorial Election 2015.gif ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by S51438 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Replaced by S51438 (talk) 22:43, 9 July 2016 (UTC)
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