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File:CF Goldie.jpg

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 * File:CF Goldie.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Allandrover ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Possible unfree file. Painting appears to be a derivative work of a copyrighted photograph at. Verbcatcher (talk) 03:07, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep: the art is beautiful, and an homage to Goldie--DDupard (talk) 21:20, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
 * We're not here to talk about aesthetics or WP:NOTMEMORIAL. Either Allandrover is a very good painter (in which case we would appreciate proof of authorship) or this image is a simple copyright violation that needs to be deleted. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 20:18, 13 October 2016 (UTC)
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File:Volantis techhaus.jpg

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 * File:Volantis techhaus.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by IndianBio ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

File has been tagged with wrong license since March 2016. It is currently licensed as Non-free architectural work, but that does seem incorrect since the TechHaus Volantis is described as a vehicle and not a structure. The question is whether this can be replaced by a freely licensed equivalent per WP:FREER. It seems that cars and other vehicles are generally considered to be utilitarian objects and as such they cannot typically be copyrighted, right? However, this does not really look like a typical vehicle, and there does seem a creative element to it so maybe it needs to be non-free. If it is now permanently installed as a display, it might even be considered to be Non-free 3D art. Should this be treated as replaceable fair use or as some other form of non-free content? -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:18, 11 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete - Commercially not available. — I B  [ Poke  ] 14:40, 13 October 2016 (UTC)
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File:Simpulum.jpg

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 * File:Simpulum.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Jack1956 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).
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File:Washington-bible.jpg

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File:Desksite-new.png

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 * File:Desksite-new.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by OCTechGuru ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Unused logo, low-res, no encyclopedic use  F ASTILY   07:06, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
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File:Desksite-logo-new.png

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 * File:Desksite-logo-new.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by OCTechGuru ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

unused logo, no encyclopedic use  F ASTILY   07:06, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
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File:Nasams2.jpg

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 * File:Nasams2.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Grautbakken ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Appears to be a press photo, dubious self-work claim  F ASTILY   07:13, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
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File:Nasams3.jpg

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 * File:Nasams3.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Grautbakken ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Appears to be a press photo, dubious self-work claim  F ASTILY   07:13, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
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File:Exodus 4-refrence to spiritual possession putting words in mouths 5.jpg

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 * File:Exodus 4-refrence to spiritual possession putting words in mouths 5.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Accuruss ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Unclear who took the photo; subject is obviously not copyrighted, but the photograph could still be  F ASTILY   07:15, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
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File:Vica statepins 98-99.jpg

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 * File:Vica statepins 98-99.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by HiB2Bornot2B ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Possible derivative of non-free content (pins)  F ASTILY   07:17, 11 October 2016 (UTC)

This is a photo of an object and is used to illustrate the nature of the collectible pins that are a large part of the National Leadership Skills Conference environment. If it is argued that the image should be removed because it is derivative of non-free content, then it can easily be argued that every photo of a product should be removed under the same logic. For example, File:Kfc taco bell.jpg contains non-free content (the logos). I look forward to your comments. --Steven Williamson (HiB2Bornot2B) - talk ▓▒░ Go Big Blue! ░▒▓  19:39, 12 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi Steven. You seem to be arguing that because other similar images exist that this image should be allowed or that it should be all or nothing. That's not really going to get you very far because image use tends to be judged on a case by case basis. If even one of the pins depicted in the photo you took is considered to be still under copyright protection, then that would make this collage-like photo a copyright violation as explained in c:COM:Collages. The shape of the pins may be considered too simple for copyright protection and below the threshold of originality typically used to determine such things, but the designs on their faces most likely are above that threshold. As for the Taco Bell photo you linked to above, the uploader may have considered it to be OK by considering the signage to be part of the building per c:COM:FOP, but that's seems like quite a liberal interpretation in my opinion. The uploader should have also just automatically assumed that the Flicker licensing automatically means that not only the photo itself, but also the object depicted are also free from copyright protection, which is something not always true per c:COM:LL. I will ask about the Taco Bell photo at c:COM:VP/C and see what they say. -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:17, 13 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your input, Marchjuly. I think my thought process is really that I don't totally understand how a picture that I took with my own camera can be a problem for copyright, if I released it into the PD.  I am the copyright holder of the image.  From what I understand from your feedback is that it is the individual pins that may be copyrighted and therefore the image is offending the copyright law.  If I took a picture the can of Dr. Pepper that is sitting here on my desk and then used it to illustrate a Dr. Pepper, would that image also be a violation?  If so, how exactly can you illustrate concepts that can only be represented visually?  Wouldn't I be the copyright holder of any photo I take of this Dr. Pepper can on my desk? Thank you very much for your insight. --Steven Williamson (HiB2Bornot2B) - talk  ▓▒░ Go Big Blue! ░▒▓  16:54, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Please refer to c:COM:PACKAGING for more specific information about product packaging. Basically you own the rights on the photos you take, but not necessarily the rights of any copyright content depicted within those photos. If you take a photo a can of Dr. Pepper, in which the can is just some object located in the background and is clearly not the focus/purpose of the photo, then de minimis can likely be argued and the copyright of the logo is not relevant. On the other hand, if you take a close up photo of the can's logo for the sole point of showing what the logo looks like and the logo is under copyright protection, then you probably cannot freely license both the photo and the logo unless you created both. The shape of the can is utilitarian, but the labeling/artwork on the can is not. When you buy a can of soda, you purchase the physical contents of the can and the can itself, but you don't purchase the copyright on any of the branding associated with the can.
 * Back to the Taco Bell photo you mentioned above, I asked about it at c:COM:VP/C and it does seem like such a photo can be freely licensed after all. -- Marchjuly (talk) 23:50, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
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File:Dan Pena, The 50 billion dollar man and high-performance coach.png

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 * File:Dan Pena, The 50 billion dollar man and high-performance coach.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Voletaltd ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Given source doesn't contain a license statement. Kelly hi! 08:39, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
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File:Daniel Idzkowski.jpg

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 * File:Daniel Idzkowski.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by FiendYT ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

The given permission (appears to be a screencap of a private messaging app) doesn't mention any particular license. Kelly hi! 08:42, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
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File:Click remote.png

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted as F9 by AnomieBOT ⚡  00:00, 12 October 2016 (UTC)
 * File:Click remote.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Jerry ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Appears to be a film screencap. Kelly hi! 09:21, 11 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Speedy delete as a copyright violation. The uploader is highly unlikely to hold the copyright to Click (2006 film). --Whpq (talk) 21:42, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete: This is a scene from Click (2006 film). The two persons shown in the image look like Adam Sandler and Christopher Walken. This should be non-free content, but it would then need to be used in at least one article per WP:F5 and also be provided with a valid non-free use rationale per WP:F6 to be kept. if you are able to provide a non-free use rationale that satisfies all 10 WP:NFCCP (please note "art is beautiful" sort of implies decorative use and is not really sufficient to justify WP:NFCC), then please do so that the file's use can be reassessed. -- Marchjuly (talk) 21:46, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
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File:Clifford grave 1986.jpg
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 * File:Clifford grave 1986.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Astrochemist ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Delete - unused, obsoleted by c:File:Highgate Cemetery - East - William Kingdon Clifford 02.jpg. Kelly hi! 09:25, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
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File:Clifftannery.jpg
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 * File:Clifftannery.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Stuartmoss ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Delete - unused, obsoleted by c:File:Cliff Tannery Blue Plaque.jpg. Kelly hi! 09:31, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
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File:Clinton Oxford.JPG
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 * File:Clinton Oxford.JPG ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Shaunnol ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

No freedom of panorama for 2D graphic works in the UK. Kelly hi! 09:46, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
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File:Clontarf castle hotel 1.jpg
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 * File:Clontarf castle hotel 1.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Cailín Sásta ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Delete - unused, low resolution. Kelly hi! 10:16, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
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File:H.Upmann Dominican.jpg
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 * File:H.Upmann Dominican.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Geographer ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Largely derivative of copyrighted product advertisement. Kelly hi! 10:32, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
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File:SBM foothill.jpg
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 * File:SBM foothill.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Geographer ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Delete - unused personal photo. Kelly hi! 10:43, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
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File:Closecalls.jpg
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 * File:Closecalls.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by AnthonyNalli ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Delete - unused logo. Kelly hi! 12:33, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
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Images of Janaka Ruwanpura
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The result of the discussion was: delete. — ξ <sup style="color:#000000;">xplicit  06:36, 19 October 2016 (UTC)
 * <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx" id="File:Dr. Janaka Ruwanpura, Vice-Provost (International), University of Calgary.jpg">File:Dr. Janaka Ruwanpura, Vice-Provost (International), University of Calgary.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by UCI2017 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).


 * <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx" id="File:Janaka Ruwanpura, Vice-Provost (International).jpg">File:Janaka Ruwanpura, Vice-Provost (International).jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by UCI2017 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Images are high-res professionally photographed portaits used at a university profile page. The uploader is asserting that they are the copyright holder. However, we would need OTRS proof that they are the copyright holder; either the photographer or possibly the University of Calgary. Whpq (talk) 18:14, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
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File:KAT’s seizure banner.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Keep Majora (talk) 05:16, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
 * <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx" id="File:KAT’s seizure banner.jpg">File:KAT’s seizure banner.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Frmorrison ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Unused, US Govt work but rules about seals may be applicable. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 17:32, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

<div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: US government seals aren't copyrighted either, but they can be protected as trademarks or government symbols. Is that a deletion reason, though?

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 18:24, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep: The latter is effectively trademark, which does not apply in this case. ViperSnake151   Talk  00:23, 12 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep per ViperSnake151. Iazyges   Consermonor   Opus meum  03:43, 12 October 2016 (UTC)


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File:Ngurahraiintsirport.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  08:03, 19 October 2016 (UTC)
 * File:Ngurahraiintsirport.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Calvin Wisanto ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Image is of a current operating airport and was originally uploaded as non-free with a non-free rationale. When challenged as being replaceable, the image was converted to public domain as it was a work o the Indonesian government.

There is no indication on the source site (airport web site), that it is the work of the Indonesian government. Furthermore, per point (b) listed in PD-IDGov, there are exceptions and in this case, the publishing web site does state "© 2013 - 2016 Bandara Internasional I Gusti Ngurah Rai Bali | Angkasa Pura Airports". Whpq (talk) 19:09, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
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File:Brad Tolinski.jpeg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  08:03, 19 October 2016 (UTC)
 * File:Brad Tolinski.jpeg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Laura B. Whitmore ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

The source provided is Laura B. Whitmore which is consistent with the uploader user name but the EXIF shows the author as Gina DePinto. Whpq (talk) 20:51, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
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