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File:Backwoods Cigar Logo.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  10:06, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
 * File:Backwoods Cigar Logo.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by TheDethklokGuy ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

superseded by File:Backwoods (cigar brand) logo.svg Jon Kolbert (talk) 00:23, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
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File:Baddeley.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  10:06, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
 * File:Baddeley.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by WU03 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

superseded by File:BaddeleysWorkingMemory.svg Jon Kolbert (talk) 00:26, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
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File:Badger8.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  10:06, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
 * File:Badger8.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Twilightvoron ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

poor quality photo, no encyclopedic value Jon Kolbert (talk) 00:29, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
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File:Regular Slotted Container.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  10:06, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
 * File:Regular Slotted Container.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Rlsheehan ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

superseded by File:Regular Slotted Container.svg Jon Kolbert (talk) 00:53, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
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Non-free book covers in Clark Ashton Smith

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The result of the discussion was: Deleted by Explicit - F ASTILY   08:27, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
 * File:MakerGargoyles-byRichDiSilvio.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by DVed ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).


 * File:DoubleShadow-by-RichDiSilvio.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by DVed ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Files of non-free cover art being used in a decorative manner in Clark Ashton Smith. A non-free book cover is generally allowed when it is used as the primary means of indentification in a stand-alone article about the book itself as explained in WP:NFC, but a much stronger justification for non-free use is typically required when used in other articles, such as articles about the book's author. These particular covers are not themselves the subject of any sourced critical commentary within the author's article, so the context required by WP:NFCC is lacking. Moreover, there are already a number of freely licensed files of books covers being used in the article, so adding these two non-free ones is not something needed per WP:NFCC, especially for two books mentioned as entries in an embedded list (see WP:NFLISTS) in Clark Ashton Smith. If the two books are notable per WP:NBOOK for stand-alone articles, then the files can be used those articles; they should not, however, be used in the author's article. Suggest delete per NFCC#1 and NFCC#8. -- Marchjuly (talk) 04:55, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete. Textbook NFCC violations. Just as nonfree album covers can't be used in musician discographies, nonfree book covers can't be used to illustrate author bibliographies (or, in general, as illustrations in author bios). This is a settled an uncontroversial point, see, fopr example, Media copyright questions/Archive/2017/May. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo). Treated like dirt by many administrators since 2006.   (talk) 12:29, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
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File:Bansav.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  10:06, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
 * File:Bansav.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Daufer ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

superseded by File:Flag of Italy (1861-1946).svg Jon Kolbert (talk) 06:22, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
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File:BasRutten.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  10:06, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
 * File:BasRutten.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by DrewTuranchar ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

doubtful that both images in upload history are uploader's own work Jon Kolbert (talk) 06:52, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
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File:SF32atmido.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  10:06, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
 * File:SF32atmido.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Ted7rns ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

EXIF says that author is E. John Thawley III, automotive photographer. Very likely not the uploader. Logan Talk Contributions 06:59, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
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File:Frank E. Wheelock of Lubbock (right).jpg

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The result of the discussion was: crop it. czar 06:40, 3 September 2017 (UTC)
 * File:Frank E. Wheelock of Lubbock (right).jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Billy Hathorn ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Since this is non-FUR, shouldn't it be cropped to show only F. E. Wheelock, ie: the guy about whom the target article relates? I'm not good on what is right or wrong when it comes to FUR, so apologies in advance if it is me who is wrong. Sitush (talk) 07:05, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment: I'm not sure if there's a technical reason it cannot be cropped; in fact, it looks like there is a cropped version here. Maybe it would be a good idea to ask at WP:GL to see what they say. Otherwise, I agree that there only really needs to be an image of Wheelock. In addition, since he was Mayor of Lubbock from 1909 to 1915 which is before 1923, maybe there's a free image of him (an old newspaper photo, etc.) from around that time which can be licensed as PD-US-1923 or PD-old-70 or something similar; for example, something like this might be old enough for PD if it can clarified when the photo was published or taken. -- Marchjuly (talk) 08:59, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
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File:Batu pahat flag.gif

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  10:06, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
 * File:Batu pahat flag.gif ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Jason 8837 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

superseded by File:Flag of Batu Pahat, Johor.svg Jon Kolbert (talk) 09:06, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
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File:Bayoumazda.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  10:06, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
 * File:Bayoumazda.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Anthonyharris ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

text makes image unusable in articles, replaced by File:RX7.JPG Jon Kolbert (talk) 09:10, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
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File:Launceston Blues Jumper2.png

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  10:06, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
 * File:Launceston Blues Jumper2.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Munts ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Contains non-free logo (AFL Tasmania). Usage on 2012 Foxtel Cup and Foxtel Cup pages does not meet WP:NFCC. Flickerd (talk) 12:53, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
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File:EnglishAsOfficialLanguage.png

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  10:06, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
 * File:EnglishAsOfficialLanguage.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Kitplane01 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Probably is unusable due to the blue background.

Also: File:MapOfMonarchies.png. XXN, 13:05, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
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File:ThameslinkAndGreatNorthern.svg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  10:06, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
 * File:ThameslinkAndGreatNorthern.svg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by JaJaWa ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Pair of logos - made redundant by separate Great Northern in use at Thameslink and Great Northern, and also obsolete to new Thameslink logo. Not notable enough in my opinion to remain. Cloudbound (talk) 16:42, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
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File:BenHarper.GIF
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  10:06, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
 * File:BenHarper.GIF ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by ShadowRocker13 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

too low quality to be of reasonable use Jon Kolbert (talk) 16:52, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
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File:Ziggo Logo.png
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  10:06, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
 * File:Ziggo Logo.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Cyzor ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

superseded by File:Ziggo Logo.svg Jon Kolbert (talk) 16:59, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
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File:Chip&
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The result of the discussion was: Resize. Pinging. (non-admin closure) Winged Blades of Godric On leave 16:16, 20 September 2017 (UTC)
 * <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx ffd-file" id="File:Chip&#39;s Challenge.png">File:Chip& ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by DopefishJustin ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Challenging the no-resize tag. This is rendered as a thumbnail in the article, so clearly it can be useful at that size. No reason not to reduce the size of the image. ~ Rob 13 <sup style="margin-left:-1.0ex;">Talk 18:08, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Procedural close on multiple grounds: the fact that nobody has opposed removing the tag, as it was placed to prevent bot edits, not human ones; the fact that User:BU Rob13 has not bothered to provide a reasonably resized version of the image for purposes of this discussion; and finally, the fact that I am not aware of any precedent for this venue being used for discussion of this type, and as such I would assume it should be taking place on the talk page of the image. Modernponderer (talk) 22:25, 20 August 2017 (UTC)
 * My intention is for the bot to resize this as it does all other images. This is files for discussion; it is where we discuss ... files. Lastly, the resizing was already done and reverted - that is the opposition. ~ Rob 13 <sup style="margin-left:-1.0ex;">Talk 22:38, 20 August 2017 (UTC)
 * The bot destroyed the image last time. There was a clear consensus on WP:AN that this was unacceptable, not to mention in numerous other cases. You cannot override this wide consensus with a local discussion for a single image here, regardless of your personal interpretation of policy. Modernponderer (talk) 22:44, 20 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Resize per nom. Textbook case.  The file is not displayed at full size in the article (and should not be), so resizing was the appropriate action.  -  F ASTILY   08:30, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
 * User:Fastily, are you implying that fair use images should never be stored at resolutions higher than those in the articles? Because not only is that an overly narrow misinterpretation of policy, it is also nonsensical because of different user settings displaying images at different sizes. Modernponderer (talk) 16:08, 27 August 2017 (UTC)
 * I see no reason not to resize the image. If you want to resize it yourself to a specific resolution or else risk going too small, go ahead, but we resize images well below their potential for reprinting because the intent is merely to illustrate the gameplay, not show sprite detail. czar  06:33, 3 September 2017 (UTC)
 * User:Czar, I've thought about this and I have to say that, while you may very well generally be correct, I have to disagree in this specific case. The image in question is not a random screengrab taken by a passing user, but one made under a specific setup with an environment that is no longer generally used, or even readily available. Thus, preserving the image as-is has value above and beyond mere referential use. Furthermore, the so-called "sprite detail" is actually highly relevant for a game such as this one. The dithering observed in many of the tiles, for example, is a technique no longer used in modern game design, and could quite possibly help a reader identify the game. Modernponderer (talk) 23:17, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Historical preservation is important work that's outside our scope as an encyclopedia. The question is how this non-free image can meet our own fair use content guidelines. It's used to show basic game concepts, not dithering or other aspects of the release that aren't discussed in prose. czar  00:14, 11 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Resize as large format isn't being utilized, nor should be. Jon Kolbert (talk) 00:26, 11 September 2017 (UTC)
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File:JD Costello2.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  10:06, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
 * File:JD Costello2.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Ldeffinbaugh ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Looks like a video screenshot. Unused, low resolution & quality. Potential copyvio. XXN, 20:35, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
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File:Sudhanshu Trivedi Profile.jpeg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  10:07, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
 * File:Sudhanshu Trivedi Profile.jpeg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Definer1 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).


 * File:YLP Washington.jpeg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs])


 * File:At BJP Conclave.jpeg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs])


 * File:Sudhanshu Trivedi at Patan.jpeg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs])


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 * File:With Japan PM Shinzo Abe.jpeg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs])


 * File:Felicitation on UP Day.jpeg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs])


 * File:With Ashok Singhal Ji.jpeg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs])

Likely copyvio, flickr account in question has record of license washing. – Train2104 (t • c) 21:51, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
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File:Britten-karajan.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  10:06, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
 * File:Britten-karajan.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Tim riley ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

per Magog the Ogre (t • c) 23:57, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
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File:Karajan-britten-previn.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  10:06, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
 * File:Karajan-britten-previn.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Tim riley ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

per Magog the Ogre (t • c) 23:58, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
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File:Ingrid Bergman and Liv Ullmann in Autumn Sonata.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  10:06, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
 * <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx ffd-file" id="File:Ingrid Bergman and Liv Ullmann in Autumn Sonata.jpg">File:Ingrid Bergman and Liv Ullmann in Autumn Sonata.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by PhantomS ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

The screenshot is used in the production information section of Autumn Sonata with a caption of "Liv Ullmann and Ingrid Bergman in Autumn Sonata." There is no critical commentary of the image itself in the article, it is being used to show two of the actresses in the film, it does nothing to increase the reader's understanding of the film and its exclusion is not detrimental to the understanding of the film, thereby failing WP:NFCC. Aspects (talk) 00:01, 15 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete as the image is being used in a purely decorative fashion --Whpq (talk) 13:53, 18 August 2017 (UTC)
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