Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2017 August 5



File:Storm Soda.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  10:07, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
 * File:Storm Soda.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by TeemPlayer ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

This image is probably non-free. Steel1943 (talk) 01:15, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
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Non-free images on Surge (drink)

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The result of the discussion was: Delete File:Surge Soda Cans.png - F ASTILY   08:30, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
 * File:Surge logo.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Joel-brown ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).
 * File:Surge Soda Cans.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Ilikenwf ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Both of these images are currently on Surge (drink). However, both of the images being present probably fails WP:NFCC since they both illustrate the subjects' different logos. If I had to choose between which one to delete, it would be File:Surge Soda Cans.png since it is an image of the cans and not just the logo. Steel1943 (talk) 01:19, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
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File:Tab Logo.svg

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The result of the discussion was: Relicense as free. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 10:08, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
 * File:Tab Logo.svg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Handtell ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

The image does not look unique enough for copyright. Since the logo is made by a company in the United States, this image is probably also eligible for transfer to Wikimedia Commons. Steel1943 (talk) 01:31, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Relicense as PD-logo and move to Commons. Salavat (talk) 04:57, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
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File:HamtaroPlush.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  10:07, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
 * File:HamtaroPlush.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Dj909 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

non-free per commons:COM:TOYS Jon Kolbert (talk) 08:12, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
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File:Safari selected in Quicksilver.png

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  10:07, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
 * File:Safari selected in Quicksilver.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Skeejay ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

This image is actually non-free and can be plausibly replaced with a free image. (Violation of WP:NFCC.)

The subject of this image is supposed to be Quicksilver (software), which is a free app under Apache license. However, all that appears of Quicksilver in this shot are three purple simple geometric shapes. (Not eligible for copyright protection.) Instead, the bulk of the image consists of three macOS icons, which are non-free.

In accordance to WP:NFCC, one can plausibly make a free screenshot by downloading Quicksilver to a Mac computer, insert three icons corresponding to free apps on it and take a screenshot. Codename Lisa (talk) 08:23, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
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File:Haringay railway station waiting room on platform 2.JPG

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  10:07, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
 * File:Haringay railway station waiting room on platform 2.JPG ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Crest of London ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

too blurry to be of use Jon Kolbert (talk) 08:30, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
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File:Logo of CUPB.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Relicense as non-free. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 10:09, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
 * File:Logo of CUPB.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Iflex ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Claimed as own work, but this looks like a third party organisational logo, Who owns the design? ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 11:20, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Relicense to non-free logo as it would be owned by the Central University of Punjab. Salavat (talk) 05:12, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
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File:RealNetwork Logo.png

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted as F8 by A file with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT ⚡ 10:07, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
 * File:RealNetwork Logo.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Fellowedmonton ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Free at Commons, and I'm only seeing simple text. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 11:25, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Relicense to PD-logo and then delete as redundant to the Commons hosted file. Salavat (talk) 04:58, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
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File:Crookedteeth.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  10:07, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
 * File:Crookedteeth.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Blaziken225 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Claimed as Creative Commons, but this looks like an album cover? ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 11:32, 5 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete Here's the album at Discogs. front cover back cover with 2017 copyright notice for Eleven Seven Music. We hope (talk) 19:26, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete, clearly a non-free album cover. Delete as redundant to File:PapaRoachCrookedTeeth.jpg. Salavat (talk) 05:00, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
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File:RedhandsBlackdeeds.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Relicense and relicensed as non-free. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:42, 19 August 2017 (UTC)
 * File:RedhandsBlackdeeds.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Jshipman142 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Claimed as creative Commons, but this looks like album cover-art ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 11:33, 5 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete Discogs listing front cover back cover which has copyright 2017 Mascot Records at bottom that's seen when image is zoomed. We hope (talk) 19:34, 5 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Relicense to non-freee album cover and add a fair use as it is used in the article Red Hands Black Deeds. Salavat (talk) 05:02, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
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File:Shreya Ghoshal at MTV Unplugged Season - 6.jpeg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  10:07, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
 * File:Shreya Ghoshal at MTV Unplugged Season - 6.jpeg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Vikranthakur ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Unsourced, is this actually a non-free screenshot? ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 11:35, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete This is from Twitter in January; image with promotion banner. We hope (talk) 19:41, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
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File:The McPherson University logo.png

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The result of the discussion was: Relicense and relicensed as non-free. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:43, 19 August 2017 (UTC)
 * File:The McPherson University logo.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by KingDavidEdits ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Claimed as Self, but looks like a third party logo design ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 11:39, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Relicense to non-free logo as it would be owned by the university. Salavat (talk) 05:15, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
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File:Builder Engineers logo.png

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  10:07, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
 * File:Builder Engineers logo.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Wordwide7 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Not convinced this is simple, given the logo right. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 11:39, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
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File:WolvesRiseAgainst.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Relicense and relicensed as non-free. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:43, 19 August 2017 (UTC)
 * File:WolvesRiseAgainst.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Jshipman142 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Claimed as creative commons, but resembles album coveart? ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 11:42, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete This is the album cover. Full cover is shown at the AllMusic link; the back cover has a 2017 copyright notice for Virgin Records. We hope (talk) 19:15, 5 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Relicense to non-free album cover and add a fair use as it is currently being used in the Wolves (Rise Against album) article. Salavat (talk) 05:14, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
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File:233326wjxxl6.jpeg
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The result of the discussion was: relisted on. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:44, 19 August 2017 (UTC)


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File:Garbage TISM single.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by A file with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT ⚡ 10:07, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
 * File:Garbage TISM single.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Gohst ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Querying the US Only/ Don't move to Commons, as I am only seeing text? ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 14:06, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
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File:Offenbach-Boule-de-neige.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted as F8 by A file with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT ⚡ 05:03, 11 August 2017 (UTC)
 * File:Offenbach-Boule-de-neige.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Tim riley ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

According to Commons the nominal auother died in 1932 so this should be okay for Commons now? ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 14:19, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment This file, like the Cecil Hepworth file below, was also copied to Commons without the knowledge of the uploader. It's been there since 2014, true, but it has only the US PD-1923 abroad license.  It needs another license to remain at Commons.


 * Since there seem to be quite a few files taken to Commons with "don't move" tags without the knowledge of the editors who uploaded them, my suggestion would be to first start a Commons discussion about whether the file really belongs there or not before tagging files here for FFD.


 * Not so long ago we had a film poster up at FFD because there was a Commons copy; it was suggested the en:WP file be deleted on that grounds. The Commons file turned out to have been copied from here and indeed had a copyright notice.  The Commons file was deleted; WP would have lost the properly licensed non-free copy of the poster if it had been deleted as a result of the FFD listing. We hope (talk) 20:50, 5 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete - it's definitely free enough for Commons, and probably was eligible for F8. The do not move to Commons template is automatically part of the US-specific license and can be ignored once free status is ascertained, in my opinion. Magog the Ogre (t • c) 21:36, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
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File:Awards Center crop monthly.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  10:07, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
 * File:Awards Center crop monthly.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Sharkface217 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Unused, unneeded anymore. XXN, 14:31, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
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File:AlgonquinWright.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  10:07, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
 * File:AlgonquinWright.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Sirmont ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Questionable authorship - XXN, 14:40, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
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File:José Clemente Orozco - The Bedroom - Google Art Project.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by A file with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT ⚡ 10:07, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
 * <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx ffd-file" id="File:José Clemente Orozco - The Bedroom - Google Art Project.jpg">File:José Clemente Orozco - The Bedroom - Google Art Project.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Dcoetzee ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Commons claims this IS PD in Mexico, hence the reason for not moving this to Commons may be invalid. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 14:44, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
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File:Yanitza Martinay - Le Petit Journal.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by A file with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT ⚡ 12:08, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
 * File:Yanitza Martinay - Le Petit Journal.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Mondiad ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Equivalent media at Commons is apparently thought to be "free". Not a straight F8 owing to the tags used on the local copy. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 14:56, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
 * The illustration comes from Petit Journal of May 1911. It qualifies for PD-OLD. --Mondiad (talk) 18:40, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
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File:Atr-logo-thumb-150.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by A file with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT ⚡ 10:07, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
 * File:Atr-logo-thumb-150.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Adam sk ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

The reason given for not moving this to Commons is invalid, and the media is already on Commons. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 14:57, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete for invalid reason. Salavat (talk) 05:17, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
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File:Ghawanima Minaret-Aqsa.JPG
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by A file with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT ⚡ 10:07, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
 * File:Ghawanima Minaret-Aqsa.JPG ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Al Ameer son ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Equivalent media at Commons where it was possible to identify the status as PD-100, rendering the Do Not Move to commons reason locally invalid. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 14:59, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
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File:Materialism-and-Empirio-Criticism.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: keep. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:45, 19 August 2017 (UTC)
 * File:Materialism-and-Empirio-Criticism.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Carrite ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

A work whose author died in 1924, would presumably have expired in Russia by now? ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 15:02, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Amended for clarification? ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 16:04, 5 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Speedy Keep - This is a slavish reproduction of a 1909 pamphlet cover with a properly listed rights tag. An obvious keep, why is our time being wasted here? Carrite (talk) 15:13, 5 August 2017 (UTC)


 * It would help if sometimes people actually bothered to examine things more closely. This process was now Files for Discussion. It was listed because I think the license on it is wrong, and wanted a second opinion before it was deleted as F8, precisely because it was now copyright-free. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 15:20, 5 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Speedy keep and TROUT the nom, who needs to learn what the public domain is. What's the point of this discussion? — MShabazz Talk/Stalk 16:16, 5 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Withdrawn, on the basis that no-one apparently wants to listen. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 17:06, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Listen to what? What is there to discuss, and why haven't you started a discussion? — MShabazz Talk/Stalk 17:17, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
 * There was a question at the start of the thread. I got the answer I wanted. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 17:46, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
 * I know ShakespeareFan00 hasn't been terribly clear - I've spoken to him and advised him that in future, he must be explicit that he doesn't want to delete files such as the one above, and that he must be very clear that he's only enquiring about the copyright status in order to determine if it is possible to copy a file to Commons (and consequentially, he should ask the uploader if they want to retain a local copy). He will also need recognise during a FFD listing that the file is correctly licensed and that it can remain on English Wikipedia regardless of whether it can be uploaded to Commons. Nick (talk) 18:04, 5 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Okay, Deep breath. Let's try explaining this again.

The image under disscussion is hosted locally. It was tagged in a way that was indicating that it shouldn't be moved to Commons. However, the information provided suggested that any copyright had in fact expired and thus the license need updating. In parallel the same media had been uploaded to Commons, and thusly if the license there was "free" and the license here was "free" the file would potentially qualify for an F8 speedy deletion. The reason for raising the issue here was to confirm that the reasoning about it being PD was sound.

I fail to see how a little bit of caution is a waste of time. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 17:58, 5 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Thank you for explaining it again for the first time. You may not realize it, but PD-US-1923-abroad adds a "do not move to Commons" banner. Nobody took steps to "tag" the image. Also, for a variety of reasons, there are editors who prefer not to have their images moved to Commons. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 18:57, 5 August 2017 (UTC)


 * I still think the PD-US-1923 abroad tag is wrong. Perhaps it should also have a PD-Russia tag?

Anyway thanks for adding the Keep-local, regardless of what Commons says. :) ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 20:44, 5 August 2017 (UTC)


 * I specifically requested that the local file be kept also; I have been subject to retaliatory deletions (harassment) at Commons and want this file retained here to ensure that the thugs who run rampant there do not obliterate the material. Carrite (talk) 04:47, 10 August 2017 (UTC)
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File:King thibaws guards1885.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by A file with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT ⚡ 10:07, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
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Image is duplicated at Commons, an image by a photogrpaher that died in 1912, is clearly PD, so I am not understanding the Do not move to commons notice on this. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 15:05, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  10:07, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
 * File:Sv posters.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Abgreen ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

not sure a student union promo poster has much use if the student union itself doesn't have an article. Jon Kolbert (talk) 15:22, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  10:07, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
 * File:Haydon Values Logo.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Abgreen ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Unclear copyright status, also unclear if it would be suitable for use in an article. Jon Kolbert (talk) 15:23, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
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 * File:Haystacks food.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Thepylongenius ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

low-quality picture of a dish that has been replaced in the article by a good-quality image Jon Kolbert (talk) 15:26, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was: relisted on. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:46, 19 August 2017 (UTC)


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File:Cecil M. Hepworth 1915.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by A file with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT ⚡ 10:08, 19 August 2017 (UTC)
 * File:Cecil M. Hepworth 1915.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by We hope ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Commons apparently treats the equivalent of this image as PD-US-1923.

The image is over 100 years old, so I am wondering if this can be deleted as F8. If not can someone give the appropriate rationale so I can start the relevant disscussions at Commons. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 15:51, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment A copy of it was moved to Commons more than 2 years ago despite the "don't move" tag. I had no idea there was a Commons file until now. When we finish we should ideally have one image of Hepworth that's "legal" either at Commons or here. We hope (talk) 18:25, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Because the Commons file has no country of origin license, I've started the discussion about it at Commons. We hope (talk) 18:43, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Closed at Commons as "keep". I've removed the keep local tag; no reason why this can't go as F8. We hope (talk) 14:17, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted as F8 by A file with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT ⚡ 04:02, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
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Media duplicated at Commons where it was considered simple, , If it's acceptable on Commons there is no need to retain the local copy. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 15:58, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by A file with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT ⚡ 10:07, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
 * File:Nikolaev commune 2008 stairs 01.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by NVO ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Referral to FFD due to the direction of, where it seems architectural elements are now acceptable with respect to Russian FoP. Not a straight F8 given the original up-loaders comments (which could have been made prior to the changes to FoP rules in Russia), but could be moved to Commons if I am right about the direction of the linked discussion. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 16:03, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
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copyrighted product packaging Jon Kolbert (talk) 17:41, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
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