Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2017 December 8



Non-free images in Benton fireworks disaster

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The result of the discussion was: Keep only the last file and move to infobox. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 10:00, 16 December 2017 (UTC)
 * File:Benton fireworks aerial.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Bneu2013 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).


 * File:Webb& ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Bneu2013 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).


 * File:Benton fireworks debris.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Bneu2013 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).


 * File:Benton tn fireworks explosion damages.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Bneu2013 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Four non-free images being used in Benton fireworks disaster. While I can see how the non-free use of one of these images in the main infobox could be justified, using the other three in the body of the article is fairly decorative, lacks the context required by WP:NFCC and doesn't really add anything encyclopedically new to the article per WP:NFCC and WP:NFCC which cannot be understood through plain text or seeing the infobox image.

A non-free image of a sign at the entrance of the farm where the explosion occured is not needed in any way, and multiple images of post-explosion debris are not needed when one is more than sufficent. Even if one of the images was itself the subject of sourced critical commentary in reliable sources due to some unique aspect about it and specific content about the image was added to the article, then that would be the infobox image and the other two still wouldn't be needed per NFCC#3a. The licensing these images as Non-free historic image is also not really accurate for the reasons give in WP:ITSHISTORIC. The disaster itself might be considered "historic" in a manner, but that doesn't necessarily mean photographs of it are historic in nature.

My suggestion is that "File:Webb's bait farm.png" be deleted since there's really no way to justify its non-free use. Then one of the other three could be kept for the main infobox, with the remaining two also being deleted. Which of the three should be kept can be determined through discussion. All of the images are blurred to some degree and not of a really good quality. It seems like an aerial photo probably would be the best for the infobox to give the reader an idea about the extent of the damage, but the current infobox photo is pretty bad. The only image with some reasonable clarity is "File:Benton tn fireworks explosion damages.png", so that's the one I would suggest keeping. I think the copyright license, however, should probably be changed to Non-free fair use. -- Marchjuly (talk) 10:50, 8 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment Lets keep the explosion damages one. It's the best one I could actually find, although I haven't looked in all locations. There's probably no great photos or video footage from this event. Bneu2013 (talk) 02:10, 14 December 2017 (UTC)
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