Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2017 February 7



File:F13-game.png

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by A file with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT ⚡ 07:02, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
 * File:F13-game.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Sheldon.andre ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

According to the folks on Commons, this isn't a copyrightable logo seeing as it's just stylized lettering. If we agree, the local version should be deleted as superfluous and a higher res version exists under this name at Commons. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 12:20, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
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File:Garbagemuseumlogo.png

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 * File:Garbagemuseumlogo.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by ErinNik ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

The license of the Commons file commons:File:Garbagemuseumlogo.png is most likely incorrect, but as it's only stylized lettering I have doubts that it'd be copyrightable. And if it isn't, the local version can be deleted. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 12:22, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
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File:Theresa May UK Home Office (cropped).jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted as G6 by A file with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT ⚡ 12:05, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
 * File:Theresa May UK Home Office (cropped).jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by PFHLai ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Is this file still needed? It's currently shadowing a slightly different file on Commons. Otherwise it should be moved to a different name. Or the Commons file overwritten with this one. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 12:30, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
 * I've deleted this one. The WCommons file with the same name is fine. Thanks. --PFHLai (talk) 10:59, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
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File:Dimbokro Nzi River Bridge Red &

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 * File:Dimbokro Nzi River Bridge Red & ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Tabletop ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Uploader is claiming to be the copyright holder however the image appears to be cropped from http://www.timeslive.co.za/africa/2016/09/08/Bridge-collapse-halts-Ivory-Coast-Burkina-rail-traffic and is credited to "Sia KAMBOU / AFP" Whpq (talk) 13:18, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete - Per nom. Wiki-Coffee  Talk 22:18, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
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File:Sub.gif

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by A file with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT ⚡ 07:02, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
 * File:Sub.gif ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Ishtiaque1981 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

This vaguely named file consists of a more recent file with no source and no clear license or subject, and an older logo that is probably not correctly licensed. Most likely, the whole file should be deleted. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 13:22, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
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File:Stahlhelm logo.svg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by A file with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT ⚡ 02:02, 17 February 2017 (UTC)
 * File:Stahlhelm logo.svg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by R-41 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

This logo exists on Commons under the same name. But beforehand, we'd need to figure out whether the logo is copyrighted - how old is it? Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 13:25, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Alternately, we need to figure out whether it meets the threshold of originality. It's tagged on commons as PD-shape, in which case it's intrinsically free (not copyrightable) regardless of age. But if it winds up being protectable and still under protection, it needs to be deleted off commons. DMacks (talk) 16:34, 7 February 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete as already on Commons. PD-simple is reasonable given commons:Commons:Threshold of originality czar  07:47, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
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File:Dimbokro Nzi River Bridge Map.png

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 * File:Dimbokro Nzi River Bridge Map.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Tabletop ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Uploader is claiming to be the copyright holder but this appears to be from https://www.bing.com/maps/ which can be seen by entering coords 06°38′13″N 04°42′22″W and zooming and panning the area. Whpq (talk) 13:33, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
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File:Coupler Nigeria Link &

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 * File:Coupler Nigeria Link & ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Tabletop ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Cut and pasted from http://www.vijesti.me/media/cache/e1/0e/e10edb3a0c4163917657c2f5f20c2fb9.jpg which is from a media site. Whpq (talk) 13:39, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
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File:DPC.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by A file with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT ⚡ 07:02, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
 * File:DPC.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Cbaronaitis ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Seems like a logo of a non-notable club, based on the deleted contributions of the uploader. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 13:49, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
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File:Silandro-Stemma.svg

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 * File:Silandro-Stemma.svg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Koman90 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

This file exists as a free file on Commons, but it's not clear whether the local file or the Commons file should be deleted. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 13:56, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
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File:Sigiriya Rock.jpg

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 * File:Sigiriya Rock.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Ela112 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

This file exists at higher resolution elsewhere on the web, so that I wonder if it was taken from somewhere else (and thus may not be a free image) Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 13:58, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
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File:Siemens VAI Logo.jpg

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 * File:Siemens VAI Logo.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Primetals ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

This file exists at higher resolution on Commons. It may be uncopyrightable in Germany, a bit less certain of the US. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 13:59, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
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File:Westminster abbey west summer.jpg
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 * File:Westminster abbey west summer.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by ChrisO~enwiki ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Low resolution, only used in an ancient Featured Picture discussion. We have many higher-resolution alternatives at Commons:Category:West facade of the Westminster Abbey. Kelly hi! 14:37, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
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File:Ro-map-ploesti.png
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 * File:Ro-map-ploesti.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by ChrisO~enwiki ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Delete, unused PNG map. Kelly hi! 14:39, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
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File:Battle rocroi.gif
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 * File:Battle rocroi.gif ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by ChrisO~enwiki ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Delete, obsoleted by File:Battle rocroi.png. Kelly hi! 14:41, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
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File:Rome outline map.gif
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 * File:Rome outline map.gif ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by ChrisO~enwiki ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Delete - unused gif map. Kelly hi! 14:59, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
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File:East London Line extension.svg
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 * File:East London Line extension.svg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by ChrisO~enwiki ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Delete - unused railway map. Kelly hi! 15:01, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
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File:St. Mary&
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 * <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx" id="File:St. Mary&#39;s Church, Prittlewell.JPG">File:St. Mary& ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by MrWeeble ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Delete - unused, low resolution. Clearer photos available in Commons:Category:St Mary the Virgin's church, Prittlewell. Kelly hi! 16:19, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
 * I don't object - I didn't have much in the way of a decent camera back then Mr Weeble  Talk Brit tv 16:52, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
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File:Kempo Tomoe.png
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 * File:Kempo Tomoe.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Charles Sebastian ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

License tag claims self created but source says "Internet", scaled-up duplicate of File:Kempo tomoe.png &mdash; Train2104 (talk • contribs) 16:23, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
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File:St. Peter&
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 * <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx" id="File:St. Peter&#39;s Church, Thornaby-on-Tees.jpg">File:St. Peter& ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Thornabyred ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Delete - unused, low resolution. Obsoleted by File:St. Peter's Church, Thornaby - geograph.org.uk - 79586.jpg. Kelly hi! 16:25, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
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File:Museum in Docklands Jan2005.jpg
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 * File:Museum in Docklands Jan2005.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by LoopZilla ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Unclear whether uploader is photographer. Kelly hi! 16:30, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
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File:Bendy Bus 12.jpg
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 * File:Bendy Bus 12.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by LoopZilla ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Unclear whether uploader is photographer. Kelly hi! 16:31, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
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 * File:BartlettPark2004.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by N12345n ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Unclear whether uploader is photographer. Kelly hi! 16:32, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
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 * File:Three mills island.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by N12345n ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Unclear whether uploader is photographer. Kelly hi! 16:32, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
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File:Wenlock2004a.jpg
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 * File:Wenlock2004a.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by N12345n ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Unclear whether uploader is photographer. Kelly hi! 16:33, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
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File:Hampstead Road Camden Lock.jpg
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 * File:Hampstead Road Camden Lock.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by N12345n ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Unclear whether uploader is photographer. Kelly hi! 16:33, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
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File:Hamstead Road Lock.jpg
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 * File:Hamstead Road Lock.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by N12345n ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Unclear whether uploader is photographer. Kelly hi! 16:34, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
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File:SS Robin Nov 2004.jpg
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Unclear whether uploader is photographer. Kelly hi! 16:35, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
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File:The Greenway East London.jpg
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File:St Annes Limehouse1.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by A file with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT ⚡ 07:02, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
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File:Stalker1992.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  07:02, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
 * File:Stalker1992.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Spider63 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Delete - unused, nonfree. Kelly hi! 16:42, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
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File:Standardparadoxlogo copy.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  07:02, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
 * File:Standardparadoxlogo copy.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Standardparadox ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Delete - unused logo. Kelly hi! 16:42, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
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File:Aaron Sheehan.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  07:02, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
 * File:Aaron Sheehan.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by DarjeelingTea ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Although the Folger website says "images on this website that are under Folger copyright are licensed", an artist photo (or "head shot"), submitted by that artist to the Folger for use in their programs and publicity, is copyright by the person who took the photo, not the artist and certainly not the Folger. The license given here is invalid. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:51, 7 February 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete: the photo can be found on Aaron's website, where the photographer is credited as Kevin Day (as are photos on other pages of the website). So Day has the copyright, not the Folger, and the Folger license cannot apply here. BlueMoonset (talk) 17:16, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete (as uploader) and thanks to BlueMoonset for identifying the original photog DarjeelingTea (talk) 17:25, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
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File:HaysGalleria.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  07:02, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
 * File:HaysGalleria.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Se16boy ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Delete - unused, low resolution. Clearer photos available in Commons:Category:Hay's Galleria. Kelly hi! 17:10, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
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File:Stefan2.JPG
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 * File:Stefan2.JPG ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Summerian ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Delete, orphaned userphoto. Kelly hi! 17:25, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
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File:Steffiwiki.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  07:02, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
 * File:Steffiwiki.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Stefanie Krejci ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Delete, orphaned userphoto. Kelly hi! 17:26, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  07:02, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
 * File:Steffiwiki2.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Stefanie Krejci ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Delete, orphaned userphoto. Kelly hi! 17:26, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  07:02, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
 * File:Steffiwiki3.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Stefanie Krejci ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Delete, orphaned userphoto. Kelly hi! 17:26, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  07:02, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
 * File:Stelios.JPG ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Dewy2988 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Delete, orphaned userphoto. Kelly hi! 17:27, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  07:02, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
 * File:Stevethepirate.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Alexjam123 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Delete, non-free film screenshot. Kelly hi! 17:28, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
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File:Americo Makk, Portrait of Jimmy Carter.JPG
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The result of the discussion was: refer to OTRS czar  07:42, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
 * <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx" id="File:Americo Makk, Portrait of Jimmy Carter.JPG">File:Americo Makk, Portrait of Jimmy Carter.JPG ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Cstein99 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Presidential portrait, dubious self-work claim  F ASTILY   20:41, 7 February 2017 (UTC)

This is a well documented portrait of Jimmy Carter painted by Americo Makk (b1927-d2015) and commissioned by then Hawaii Governor Ariyoshi and not a "dubious self-work claim", as suggested, it was published in the Honolulu Star-Bulletin, (A Gannett Newspaper), Vol 68, No 326, Thursday November 22, 1979, "The Carter portrait, which is a "gift of state" from the people of Hawaii to the President, will be exhibited at the Governor's office at the State Capitol until February. At that time the Governor will present it to President Carter at the Governor's Conference." Photo of Governor Ariyashi by Warren R. Soll next to the portrait was published in the same article. Later, Americo Makk personally met with President Carter in Hawaii as published by Hawaii Kai Sun Press on February 17, 1982, "Portrait artist meets his subject" further discussing the gift of state from Governor Ariyoshi. See also DECOR, Magazine of Fine Arts and Decorative Arts April 1992. The photo, along with other photos of Americo Makk's portrait presented to Ronald Reagan in 1984, is being used in a current draft of the works of Americo Makk, a well recognized Hungarian-American artist, who died in 2015. Permission from owner of the copyright was sent to Wikipedia. These are photos from the 1950s through the 1980s and the permissions are much easier to get from the family (one source) from their archives rather than any other source from those years. There is no dubious intent of self-promotion in the photos or article, but intent to promoyte a notable and historical figure in the art community. Visit Brazil's cathedrals or the Vatican, Americo Makk's work can be found there.

I have no affiliation with Makk studios, any galleries or any other vendor that promotes or sells art. I do not personally sell art. My only contact was to get permission to write an article and get photos for my article on a subject that is of great interest and value.

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File:Makks with Dr. Edward Teller, Senate Rotunda.JPG
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The result of the discussion was: refer to OTRS czar  07:43, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
 * <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx" id="File:Makks with Dr. Edward Teller, Senate Rotunda.JPG">File:Makks with Dr. Edward Teller, Senate Rotunda.JPG ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Cstein99 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Every other file uploaded by this uploader states "used with permission from Makk family". Dubious self-work claim or missing evidence of permission. F ASTILY  20:42, 7 February 2017 (UTC)

Permission was requested from the Makk Studios and permission emailed to Wkipedia moments ago since they own the images and illustrate my article in current draft form on Americo Makk. This is not a dubious self-promotion but actually an article about a Hungarian American Artist, who died in 2015 with very rich history studied in Art Schools. Requesting the photos from the family is the most direct and best source in securing photos of work from the 1950s through the 1980's, and not indicative of dubious promotion of self-work.

I have no affiliation with Makk studios, any galleries or any other vendor that promotes or sells art. I do not personally sell art. My only contact was to get permission to write an article and get photos for my article on a subject that is of great interest and value. Notablky, it is very difficult if not impossible to write about anything concerning the visual arts without showing the depth of work through photos.

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File:Virgin Killer.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: '''Not a FFD matter. A violation of child pornography law is a matter for WP:OFFICE (or User talk:Jalexander-WMF and User talk:Mdennis (WMF), as it were), and besides, this has been discussed at length as mentioned on File talk:Virgin Killer.jpg including this aspect.''' Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 23:29, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
 * File:Virgin Killer.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by J Milburn ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

The file displays an indecent photograph of a child which is an offence in the United Kingdom. The offence creating provisions are:
 * Section 1 of the Protection of Children Act 1978 (PCA 1978); and
 * Section 160 of the Criminal Justice Act 1988 (CJA 1988)

This image may not be hosted in the United Kingdom or the entity responsible for their current distribution however the image is still accessible by those in the UK.

In US Federal Law It is illegal for an individual to knowingly use interactive computer services to display obscenity in a manner that makes it available to a minor less than 18 years of age (See 47 U.S.C. § 223(d) –Communications Decency Act of 1996, as amended by the PROTECT Act of 2003). The matter involving minors can be deemed obscene if it (i) depicts an image that is, or appears to be a minor engaged in graphic bestiality, sadistic or masochistic abuse, or sexual intercourse and (ii) if the image lacks serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value.

I argue that this image displays obscenity, that it depicts a minor involved in sadistic or masochistic abuse and that it lacks serious literary, artistic, political or scientific value. I further argue that the reasonable person would, applying contemporary adult community standards, finds that the matter depicts or describes sexual conduct in a patently offensive way and that a reasonable person finds that the matter, taken as a whole, lacks serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value. This of course is not a court and thus I will not argue what a reasonable person considers to be… However, I will contend that this image is offensive and has no value to the Wikipedia project that is worth the potential cost of having it. Wiki-Coffee Talk 22:08, 7 February 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep: Seriously, we have to go over this again? It is an incredibly well-known image that has never had legal action taken against it. It's clearly not a minor engaged in sexual conduct or sadism or anything; it's a nude child with a crack in a glass plate over her image. The costs of having it have been paid, and the value of articles actually showing an image of their subject, especially such an iconic and distinctly representational image, is huge.--Prosfilaes (talk) 22:34, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
 * It's not had legal action taken against it yet because no one has bothered to press for it enough. Wiki-Coffee  Talk 22:41, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
 * I take it you didn't bother checking the usage of this file. As one of the pages it's used on, Internet Watch Foundation and Wikipedia, points out, it's been reported to the FBI. This press release is linked from that page wherein the Wikimedia Foundation's General Counsel, Mike Godwin, says “We have no reason to believe the article, or the image contained in the article, has been held to be illegal in any jurisdiction anywhere in the world,”. If it were illegal, then action would have been taken against it.--Prosfilaes (talk) 22:49, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
 * The child is indecent, and the image clearly depicts something obscene. Do you like the image so much that you want it kept? I beg to wonder why. Wiki-Coffee  Talk 22:44, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Oh, good, personal attacks. I could make some comments about the problems people have who look at the human body and consider it indecent.--Prosfilaes (talk) 22:49, 7 February 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep UK law doesnt apply in this instance on what is hosted in the US. The image is a cover of an album and is the only possible image of the cover for that particular album. censorship even of things others find distasteful does not occur here. Amortias (T)(C) 22:55, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
 * I have had enough of you people constantly talking through your arses. Ever since I came here to Wikipedia it’s been non-stop crap and you wonder why editors decline all the time. The images on amazon https://www.amazon.co.uk/Virgin-Killer-Scorpions/dp/B0000073NK are NOT the indecent version and that would be for a very good reason. This image IS considered indecent in UK Law and the fact is saying Virgin Killer right next to a young girl in a compromising position seems to have evaded your attention. The image is explicit, obscene and unacceptable not for reasons of censorship but for reasons that I for one don’t like having images of kids in compromising positions next to the label VIRGIN being normalized in society. How can you people speak in “facts” when the so-called facts you provide are absolute shit on a stick. I am a Lawyer in the United Kingdom and I can categorically tell you that this image is illegal in the UK. People have been jailed for less! Wiki-Coffee  Talk 23:11, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
 * There is stuff on this site, on commons and on other projects I am not particularly keen to have normalised in society but to have it removed from view or reduced to the degree that there is content removed because it may be found offensive does nothing but damage the encyclopaedic nature of the project. There is a child protection policy in place with details on how to register concerns if you have them. You should be very careful how you phrase your statements about things being illegal otherwise they may be perceived as being aimed at having a chilling effect on the discussion.  Also commenting on a comment to keep an image with a comment of Do you like the image so much that you want it kept? isn't really helpful. Amortias (T)(C) 23:26, 7 February 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep Nothing has changed since the prior FFD. As covered at Internet Watch Foundation and Wikipedia and the FAQ, the Wikimedia Foundation has stated "We have no reason to believe the image has been held to be illegal in any jurisdiction anywhere in the world. ... We have no reason to believe that the availability of the image to UK residents breaks any UK law." The delete reasoning boils down to WP:IDONTLIKEIT after you strip away the rehashing of previously refuted arguments. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 23:18, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Because someone who has never studied UK Law would know UK Law... Additionally the quote "availability of the image to UK residents" I would absolutly LOVE to see a place this is available in the UK with that cover. Wiki-Coffee  Talk 23:25, 7 February 2017 (UTC)


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File:Despachos muchos foto.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  07:02, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
 * File:Despachos muchos foto.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Edgar Vazquez ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Dubious copyright claim of unused file. File also looks to be derivative of a copyrighted work. -- A Certain White Cat chi? 22:42, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  07:02, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
 * File:Despacho final3.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Edgar Vazquez ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Dubious copyright claim of unused file. File also looks to be derivative of a copyrighted work. -- A Certain White Cat chi? 22:42, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
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File:Despacho final1.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  07:02, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
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File:Vista ingreso.JPG
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File:Despacho final11.jpg
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File:Despacho final13.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  07:02, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
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File:Despacho final14.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  07:02, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
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File:Vista ingreso blanco y negro.JPG
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File:Fayzan Zahid in Office.jpg
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File:Fayzan Zahid in School.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  07:02, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
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File:Fayzan Zahid Playing Basket Ball.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  07:02, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
 * File:Fayzan Zahid Playing Basket Ball.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Fayzanzahid ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

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File:Recent Picture of Fayzan Zahid.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  07:02, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
 * File:Recent Picture of Fayzan Zahid.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Fayzanzahid ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

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File:Fayzan Zahid working in Office.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  07:02, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
 * File:Fayzan Zahid working in Office.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Fayzanzahid ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

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File:Fayzan Zahid in his Bedroom.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  07:02, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
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File:Fayzan Zahid.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  07:02, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
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File:Fayzan Zahid Childhood.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  07:02, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
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File:UNIVERSALEturks.JPG
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File:UNIVERSALSIXWPturks.JPG
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File:UNIVERSALSIXOOturks.JPG
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File:UNIVERSALTOOturks.JPG
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File:UNIVERSALSOOturks.JPG
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File:UNIVERSALWCturks.JPG
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