Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2017 January 12



File:Emeli Sandé - Our Version of Events (Special Edition).png

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  04:07, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
 * File:Emeli Sandé - Our Version of Events (Special Edition).png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by IPadPerson ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Fails WP:NFCC and WP:NFCC due to similar main image being already present in the article File:Emeli Sandé - Our Version of Events.png. This particular image has no contextual significance and is easily replaceable by words alone. — I B  [ Poke  ] 09:32, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Yep that's a delete, no way that passes NFCC. Stifle (talk) 09:07, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
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File:Mount Pisgah NC.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  19:18, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
 * File:Mount Pisgah NC.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Kfishman ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

The of this image was licensed under CC-by-2.5 but does not have any information on the source or author. While we can assume that the original uploader is also the photographer and copyright holder, a CC licence requires proper attribution.

On a sidenote, the different image added by has been transferred to Commons at File:Mount Pisgah NC radio tower, 2007.jpg using the PD release found in the upload log. De728631 (talk) 18:29, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
 * If you're comfortable assuming that the uploader is the photographer, why not just add Information with the username as the author and Own work as the source? ~ Rob 13 Talk 14:07, 10 January 2017 (UTC) Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

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 * Unfortunately the assumption of ownership may not be sufficient. Compare e. g. this comment made at an undeletion request at Commons. Unless we can be sure that Kfishman is also the original photographer, the file should not be used. De728631 (talk) 21:11, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
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File:Ltupassportbiodata.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  19:18, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
 * File:Ltupassportbiodata.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Bonus bon ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Being used decoratively, not discussed in articles. Contains no data that cannot be replaced by text Spartaz Humbug! 08:39, 19 November 2016 (UTC)

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File:Daniel Armstrong.png

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The result of the discussion was: Delete czar  04:29, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
 * File:Daniel Armstrong.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Darshanpatel ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Professional portrait of notable individual, dubious self-work claim  F ASTILY   22:25, 19 November 2016 (UTC)

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File:Varumayinfilm.JPG

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  12:07, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
 * File:Varumayinfilm.JPG ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Rajeshbieee ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Fails WP:NFCC. Kailash29792 (talk) 15:51, 19 November 2016 (UTC)

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File:Hebah Patel.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: speedy delete as F9 violation. Primefac (talk) 15:53, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
 * File:Hebah Patel.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Rathan Meshiek ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Author - Hebah Patel in Metadata. Who actually took the photo? Sfan00 IMG (talk) 13:20, 19 November 2016 (UTC) Sfan00 IMG (talk) 13:20, 19 November 2016 (UTC)

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 * I have serious concerns about the claim of own work.  This appears to be one shot from a large photo shoot.   See  http://www.tollywoodblog.in/2015/11/hebah-patel-sizzling-saree-pics.html for what are clearly images from the same shoot.   --Whpq (talk) 00:01, 13 January 2017 (UTC)


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File:Ote TV logo.svg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  19:18, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
 * File:Ote TV logo.svg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Peeperman ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Not sure this isn't above Threshold of Originality. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 11:55, 19 November 2016 (UTC)

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George Michael cover art
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The result of the discussion was: keep under PD-simple and tag as do not move to Commons due to low TOO in the UK ~ Rob 13 <sup style="margin-left:-1.0ex;">Talk 01:21, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
 * File:Monkey george michael.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Holiday56 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).
 * File:Praying for time george michael.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Holiday56 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).
 * File:Kissing a fool george michael.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Holiday56 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).
 * <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx" id="File:Whitney Houston &#38; George Michael - If I Told You That US Promo.jpg">File:Whitney Houston & ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Crowded ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

These files are licensed using non-free album cover and they each have a non-free use rationale, but I am wondering if they cannot be converted to PD-simple, tagged with Trademark and then moved to Commons instead. -- Marchjuly (talk) 06:18, 12 December 2016 (UTC)
 * For our purposes and US servers, yes, definitely PD-text. But if the albums come from the UK, their commons:Commons:Threshold of originality is super low. Also not sure if that fourth cover is distressed as part of its scan or as part of its design. Photographer's rights might come into play in the former case, and artist's rights above PD-text in the latter case. I'll relist for more feedback. czar  18:03, 12 January 2017 (UTC)

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 * Keep as failing threshold of originality. UK law does not come into it as Wikipedia only considers US law. However, Commons would consider both – so tag . Stifle (talk) 18:07, 20 January 2017 (UTC)


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File:43drwphoto.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  04:07, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
 * File:43drwphoto.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Douglas R. White ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Image gets its source from a dead link at Santa Fe Institute (Archive Link Here). There is no evidence that the PD claim is true.  TLSuda  (talk) 18:14, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
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File:WXIX News 1993.png
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  19:18, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
 * File:WXIX News 1993.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Mxn ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Non-free screenshot being used in WXIX-TV. File has a non-free use rationale, but this type of usage seems decorative and to not provide the context required by WP:NFCC. I had originally tagged the file with di-disputed fair use rationale and the file's uploader did add a more detailed caption and a source to try and address my concerns; however, the main justification for non-free use seems to be that the station changed it's branding on a certain date. The sentence "The station changed its on-air branding from '19XIX' to 'Fox 19' and its news branding from '19XIX News' to 'Fox 19 News' on April 22, 1996, nearly ten years after becoming a Fox affiliate." seems perfectly understandable pre WP:NFCC without the use of this screenshot. There is no sourced discussion of this particular screenshot it the article which would require the reader to see it to understand what is written. This is similar to adding a former logo to an article and saying that it the fact that it was once used is sufficient to satisfy WP:NFCCP. If there were specific sourced commentary about this particular screenshot withint the relevant section which significantly improved the reader's understanding of the subject, then I could see how removing it might be detrimental to that understanding and how non-free use might be justified. Lacking this kind of connection to the article content, I think usage is primarily decorative and the file should be deleted. -- Marchjuly (talk) 23:42, 18 November 2016 (UTC)

Relisting comment: for response from Minh
 * If the recently added caption isn't sufficiently connected to the image to justify including the image, then I agree the image should be removed and deleted (keeping the caption and citation in the article, of course). Thanks for the detailed explanation! I do think former logos enrich the TV station articles but understand that they push the limits of fair use too far. TV stations often have print logos that consist of simple line drawings – nothing more than stroked text. In the future, I'll seek out those logos from archived local magazines or newspapers and redraw them as public domain SVGs for Commons. – Minh Nguyễn &#x1f4ac; 01:50, 19 November 2016 (UTC)
 * , if you can crop out the background and leave just the logo, it will be pd-textlogo (free use). czar  18:15, 12 January 2017 (UTC)<div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

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File:Our favourite shop side 1.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  19:18, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
 * File:Our favourite shop side 1.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Joe Vitale 5 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Invalid FUR--not discussed critically. —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 19:05, 18 November 2016 (UTC)

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File:Brideoffrankenstein.jpg
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 * File:Brideoffrankenstein.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Noirish ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).
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File:Inam ur rehman.jpeg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  04:07, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
 * File:Inam ur rehman.jpeg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Inam Ur Rehman ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Unused personal photo - out of scope. XXN, 20:00, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
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File:Bessie Love Bobbed Hair.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  04:07, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
 * File:Bessie Love Bobbed Hair.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Chitt66 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

No need for a non-free photo of Bessie Love in article infobox. Commons has many PD photos of her. No commentary in article re: why Love's bobbed hair was significant. etc. We hope (talk) 23:39, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
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File:New Magic Bus logo.png
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted as F5 by AnomieBOT ⚡  01:01, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
 * File:New Magic Bus logo.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Comdra sr ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

The source of the file states "This image was digitally recreated by myself from available images from vehicles with the logo applied" So the logo was obviously made by the uploader and wasn't actually taken from the Magicbus website, As far as I know we should only use logos that were taken from the website as there may well be inaccuracies with logos made by anyone (ie font size, colour, font type, etc etc), Thanks, – Davey 2010 Merry Xmas / Happy New Year 00:30, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes, and there's nothing wrong with that. In fact, we have an entire WikiProject dedicated to redrawing png/jpg logos as vector (svg) graphics. -  F ASTILY   06:16, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Well is there any policy or essay that says this is fine as ifso I'd withdraw, I've never come across a self-made logo on the 'pedia before so I'd rather not withdraw if thee's consensus for these to be deleted, – Davey 2010 Talk 11:57, 12 January 2017 (UTC)

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File:Lang Hartmann Schnaufer Kaubisch Skrizpek Glunz.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  11:14, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
 * File:Lang Hartmann Schnaufer Kaubisch Skrizpek Glunz.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by MisterBee1966 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

The non-free image comes from a web site of dubious accuracy (axishistoryforum.com) and it's therefore WP:OR to state who is depicted in this group photo. Suggest the file be deleted. K.e.coffman (talk) 03:19, 21 November 2016 (UTC)

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 * Nom's comment: Fails WP:NFCC with no contextual significance and its omission would not be detrimental to understanding. Similar files have recently been deleted, pls see for example
 * FfD: Wiese_and_others_at_the_Obersalzberg.jpg and
 * FfD: Wilhelm_Crinius_Oak_Leaves.jpg


 * Rationale applies to both articles where the image appears. --K.e.coffman (talk) 00:09, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
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