Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2017 March 4



File:Renee.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  10:03, 12 March 2017 (UTC)
 * File:Renee.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Xicaymom ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Who is this? Non-notable person, probably. Out of project scope. XXN, 00:08, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Here are more personal/[family archive] photos by the same uploader. After 7-8 days they will not be in use anymore probably (related XFD), and thus will be eligible for deletion. XXN, 00:18, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
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File:Portrett-mediuml.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  12:03, 12 March 2017 (UTC)
 * File:Portrett-mediuml.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Apaesano ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

unused personal image, no encyclopedic use  F ASTILY   00:17, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
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File:Poocow.PNG

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  12:03, 12 March 2017 (UTC)
 * File:Poocow.PNG ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Poocow ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

unused personal image, no encyclopedic use  F ASTILY   00:17, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
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File:Tspacecxviss.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  10:03, 12 March 2017 (UTC)
 * File:Tspacecxviss.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Kavanagh~enwiki ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Unverifiable if it's published under a free license. XXN, 00:28, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
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File:Victor van der Chijs (2).jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  10:03, 12 March 2017 (UTC)
 * File:Victor van der Chijs (2).jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Jameswestcott ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Conflicting license info; PD-self and "Copyright OMA" &mdash; Train2104 (t • c) 03:21, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
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File:Foreigner - Agent Provocateur.JPG

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus (be bold). czar 03:21, 30 April 2017 (UTC)
 * File:Foreigner - Agent Provocateur.JPG ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by DCEdwards1966 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

File:Foreigner-I-Want-To-Know-Wh-297484.jpg is currently "PD-ineligible-USonly". The copyright status of album cover of Agent Provocateur (album) shall be evaluated. I asked the same question at, but no one there responded. I want to be bold and change the info to reflect the licensing accuracy, but I'd rather put this up for FFD first. This album cover has unique colored shapes forming an "F", in contrast to the UK picture sleeve of "I Want to Know What Love Is" using the very basic 3D "F". Speaking of that song, if the album cover is not copyrightable in the US, same should go for the US release of the worldwide hit single, which I plan to upload if the album cover (similar to the front cover of the US single) is considered free only in the US. George Ho (talk) 06:56, 13 February 2017 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 19:13, 21 February 2017 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

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File:Scihub raven.png

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The result of the discussion was: screenshot was deleted => keep logo. czar 03:23, 30 April 2017 (UTC)
 * File:Scihub raven.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Distrait cognizance ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

This logo is shown in File:Scihub screenshot.png hence in violation of WP:NFCCP#3a. Wcam (talk) 03:30, 22 February 2017 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Logo is being used as the primary image, in that case I would say keep, unless the screenshot was relocated to the infobox in which case the logo would be redundant and could be deleted. Salavat (talk) 11:36, 23 February 2017 (UTC)

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 * , are you saying that you think the logo or the screenshot should be kept? I personally would keep the logo, not the screenshot, as I don't see what extra value the screenshot provides (yes, a search box lets users search—doesn't need a non-free illustration, especially one that isn't supported by sourced text). czar  06:19, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
 * I support the logo being kept over the screenshot however Wcam had said it was in violation due to the screenshot so I was trying to work around at least something being shown in the infobox. Would prefer the logo being kept regardless of what happens to the screenshot (if that was up for discussion). Salavat (talk) 07:07, 4 March 2017 (UTC)


 * Somebody should simply ask Elbakyan to open source the logo. --Fixuture (talk) 11:58, 4 March 2017 (UTC)

Per discussion above the closing admin please keep the logo (File:Scihub raven.png) and delete the screenshot (File:Scihub screenshot.png). --Wcam (talk) 19:19, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
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File:Temple guard Bali.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: USonly, no Commons. czar 03:08, 30 April 2017 (UTC)
 * File:Temple guard Bali.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Yintan ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Derivative of non-free content; there is no FOP in Indonesia  F ASTILY   07:20, 22 February 2017 (UTC)


 * "Derivative of non-free content"? I bought that statue and took the photo myself. What are you on about?  Y intan  08:33, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Ownership of the statue does not transfer its copyright to you. While you hold the copyright to the photo, copyright for the statue resides with the person who created it. There is no freedom of panorama in Indonesia for this type of work, so we can't host this photo. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 14:41, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
 * But then how is this acceptable, FOP wise? Also, 'my' statue is a traditional religious design, they've been making identical ones for centuries (See, for example, this one). It's not an original design by the stone carver.  Y intan  22:14, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
 * (ec) The copyright law of Indonesia is available at Wikisource: Copyright Act of Republic of Indonesia. Section 10 (if I am understanding it correctly) says that the Government of Indonesia is the copyright holder of ancient artistic works, and that approval of the relevant government agency needs to be sought before reproducing. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 22:46, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
 * I see, and I think you understand it correctly. With that article and no FOP, there's a lot to be deleted on Commons then.  Y intan  23:02, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Does such a copyright apply to the US? From what I know, the US constitution does not permit an unending copyright and that is an unending copyright. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 22:51, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
 * That article is slightly bizarre and obviously ignored by virtually every publisher. But rules are rules, I guess.  Y intan  23:02, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
 * each country has its own set of copyright rules. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 04:28, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes. The reason I am asking is to know whether the copyright would apply in the US. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 16:27, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
 * The ancient statue would be out of copyright in the United States. Copyright law of the United States. So if the statue is PD in the US and copyright in the source country, we could host the image here on Wikipedia but not on the Commons. Template with . We also need two license tags: one for the photo and one for the statue. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 16:41, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
 * With that article the Indonesian government basically claims copyright on everything for ever, unless somebody else has already copyrighted it. It's quite Draconian. They could make a lot of money if they start sueing all those companies that publish holiday brochures, for a start. But anyway, if my pic has to go, it has to go.  Y intan  08:28, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
 * How old is the statue? Is it a recent creation, a piece of work taken from some ancient temple, a perfect copy of a statue on an ancient temple or something else? Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 19:57, 25 February 2017 (UTC)
 * The statue in the photograph is about 25 years old, but the actual design has been used for centuries. It's not an original design by the stone carver, it's the classic 'demon guard' you'll find on numerous Balinese temples. Some of these guard statues are replaced after a century or so because the soft sandstone doesn't last very long, and of course the replacement has to be as good as identical to the previous statue. So in that respect you could say it's a copy of a statue on an ancient temple, yes. I bought mine of a stone carver who had made about 10 of them in advance, knowing that sooner or later a temple would contact him for a replacement. If you do a picture search for Balinese demon guards you'll find many very similar, if not identical, statues.  Y intan  21:26, 25 February 2017 (UTC)

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, czar  06:27, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
 * On replicas: commons:Commons:Copyright rules by subject matter. Looking like the solution here is USonly (see Dianaa's comment) and don't move to Commons? Needs tagging czar  06:29, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
 * I added the 'do not move to commons' tag. Problem solved?  Y intan  15:54, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
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File:1924Stanfordcoaches.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus (check for renewal and re-tag boldly). czar 03:18, 30 April 2017 (UTC)
 * File:1924Stanfordcoaches.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by MisterCake ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Gettyimages usually doesn't own copyright for the historical images they "license". They just trick people into paying them to use PD images. This is likely PD-US-no renewal. ~ Rob 13 Talk 20:49, 21 January 2017 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Can someone perform a copyright check?

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 * It's essentially impossible to check for renewal on an unnamed image, especially this old. The chances of renewal are near-zero, though. Remember that college sports weren't nearly as big back then. By 20+ years out when renewal came up, this picture was old news. ~ Rob 13 <sup style="margin-left:-1.0ex;">Talk 14:53, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
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File:1927NYYankees5.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: no consensus (check for renewal and re-tag boldly). czar 03:17, 30 April 2017 (UTC)
 * File:1927NYYankees5.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by LibraryLion ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Might be public domain. I consider PD-US-no renewal to be probable. ~ Rob 13 <sup style="margin-left:-1.0ex;">Talk 20:51, 21 January 2017 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Can someone check out that the copyright was in fact not renewed?

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, czar  06:52, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
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File:John Scalzi.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Wrong forum. The file is on Commons. Please nominate it for deletion there if you still feel it should be deleted. AnomieBOT ⚡ 09:04, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
 * File:John Scalzi.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Sodakan ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

The source link no longer has the file on the webpage. The file page claims that the image has been released into the public domain, but there is no evidence provided that it is. Scalzi (who also goes by User:Scalzi on Wikipedia) also posted this image on Flickr, and it is clearly marked "All rights reserved," and does not have the appropriate Creative Commons license. If User:Scalzi could clarify whether he has actually released it into the public domain, or if he retains all rights to the image (or if he has any other images of himself he wants Wikimedia to use instead), that would be helpful. Werónika (talk) 08:42, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
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File:Powlow.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  10:03, 12 March 2017 (UTC)
 * File:Powlow.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Powlow ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Unused personal photo - out of scope. XXN, 12:58, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
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File:SuwCharman.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted as F3 by AnomieBOT ⚡  10:03, 12 March 2017 (UTC)
 * File:SuwCharman.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Imajes ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

The picture in source is published under the CC-BY-NC license - incompatible with Wikipedia. XXN, 16:23, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Image page is licensed CC BY, not BY-NC and I'm chatting with the subject (who is a friend; connection declared at Talk:Suw Charman-Anderson) who will update the Flickr licence appropriately. — OwenBlacker (talk) 17:54, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Both this image and the one on Suw's article are relatively old; she's gonna look out a newer photo and ensure it has an appropriate licence for me to upload it to Commons. — OwenBlacker (talk) 18:17, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
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File:Cypris Chat logo 256px.png
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  10:03, 12 March 2017 (UTC)
 * File:Cypris Chat logo 256px.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by MDMcKay ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Out of project scope. XXN, 17:08, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
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File:Terry Burton.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  10:03, 12 March 2017 (UTC)
 * File:Terry Burton.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Silverfish4 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Unused scaled-down photo. XXN, 17:31, 4 March 2017 (UTC)

Keep: This image'sCreative Commons status does allow for one to "share" as well as "adapt" meaning to "remix, transform, and build upon the material for any purpose, even commercially" and also that the "The licensor cannot revoke these freedoms as long as you follow the license terms". As the aforesaid is so, one can be opinionated that my flipping of the imaging file would have been allowed for and as well totally permitted as a result of the above. In so doing, one would thus be of the belief that the file should be kept within its current state altogether. Silverfish4, (talk)
 * licensing is OK. But this file is out of project scope. If there are no plans to use this image, there is no reason to keep it. Wikipedia is not a webhost. XXN, 14:03, 7 March 2017 (UTC) P.S. consider uploading free images directly to Commons.
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File:This is a close up image of Alicia Fox in April 2014.png
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  10:03, 12 March 2017 (UTC)
 * <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx" id="File:This is a close up image of Alicia Fox in April 2014.png">File:This is a close up image of Alicia Fox in April 2014.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Jomo4life ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Unused cropped version of in image which exists at Commons: c:File:Foxsana.jpg. XXN, 17:56, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
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File:Tre Cool.jpeg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  10:03, 12 March 2017 (UTC)
 * File:Tre Cool.jpeg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Joseph507357 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

This picture is published on flickr under the CC-BY-NC-ND license - incompatible with Wikipedia. XXN, 20:13, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
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File:Rambo III - Renato Casaro (1988 Film).jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  10:03, 12 March 2017 (UTC)
 * <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx" id="File:Rambo III - Renato Casaro (1988 Film).jpg">File:Rambo III - Renato Casaro (1988 Film).jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Jasc Fox ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Fails WP:NFCCP#8. A poster is permitted in the infobox at film articles as the primary means of visual identification. The usage of the poster at Rambo III does not serve that purpose (an alternative poster is already include din the infobox) and therefore its function is mainly decorative. Betty Logan (talk) 20:48, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
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File:Volkswagen golf mk6.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  10:03, 12 March 2017 (UTC)
 * File:Volkswagen golf mk6.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by AnubisUK ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

The original picture is "© All rights reserved " on flickr. XXN, 21:04, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
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File:Herostratus defcon maritime 1.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: keep. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 07:43, 11 March 2017 (UTC)
 * File:Herostratus defcon maritime 1.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Herostratus ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Unused userpage image - out of scope. XXN, 21:11, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Oppose because I think it is in use, or might be. I believe it's called at User:Herostratus/Nautical/Wdefcon (not by name, as the string "Herostratus defcon maritime 1" is constructed by code (by appending some number to "Herostratus defcon maritime ")), which in turn is called by Vandalism information, if the right parameters are called. Since the call is by parameters and string construction, it's not easy to figure out if the graphic is or is not used anywhere. But a search on the string " " (which is the call that uses this graphic) User:Herostratus/Nautical/Wdefcon shows 18 instances, of which some are apparently talk pages but one or two or a few might be the regular intended use. I use it on my page, and although TBH I don't look at it much, neither do I want you to destroy it. What for?


 * I'm a little rusty on all this. I made all this over ten years aggo... at any rate, it used to be in use and I suppose could be in future. It appears that the vandal patrollers are still updating the vandalism level. At any rate, if you want to delete this graphic, I think the first thing you want to do is run a WP:MFD on User:Herostratus/Nautical/Wdefcon, and if that succeeds then edit Vandalism information and its documentation to delete the call to User:Herostratus/Nautical/Wdefcon, and then delete the file (and presumably you'd also want to delete File:Herostratus defcon maritime 2.jpg and 3, 4, and 5.)


 * Enh. Too much work and its not hurting anyone. I'd leave it alone absent a better argument. Herostratus (talk) 01:13, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
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File:MGMLionoutsideCulverHotel.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  12:03, 12 March 2017 (UTC)
 * File:MGMLionoutsideCulverHotel.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Novellina ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

derivative of non-free content, there is no FOP for 3D works in the USA  F ASTILY   22:22, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  12:03, 12 March 2017 (UTC)
 * File:Turekball.gif ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Schadenfreude52 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

unused, no encyclopedic use  F ASTILY   22:22, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
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File:Plymouthname.png
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  12:03, 12 March 2017 (UTC)
 * File:Plymouthname.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Stude62 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

unused logo, no encyclopedic use  F ASTILY   22:26, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
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File:RedpointMay2006(small).JPG
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  12:03, 12 March 2017 (UTC)
 * <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx" id="File:RedpointMay2006(small).JPG">File:RedpointMay2006(small).JPG ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by AndyRedpoint ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

unused vanity image, no encyclopedic use  F ASTILY   22:27, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
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File:Lutron123 15118582.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  12:03, 12 March 2017 (UTC)
 * File:Lutron123 15118582.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Shadowmage321 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

unused personal image, no encyclopedic use  F ASTILY   22:28, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  12:03, 12 March 2017 (UTC)
 * File:Pluto-CharlotteClarkDoll.JPG ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by QEDQED ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

derivative of non-free content (doll)  F ASTILY   22:29, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  12:03, 12 March 2017 (UTC)
 * File:WE177 all tail png.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Ian Dunster ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

unused, no encyclopedic use  F ASTILY   22:30, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  11:05, 13 March 2017 (UTC)
 * File:Dimitrovmoskva.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Bronks ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

derivative of non-free content (statue), there is no FOP for 3D works in Russia  F ASTILY   22:31, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  10:03, 12 March 2017 (UTC)
 * File:Touch - Little Mix ft. Kid Ink.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Jonathon3378 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Image fails per WP:NFCC. Image already found at article (the infobox image) properly portrays the article and its intent. Addition artwork is not required, nor needed, to provide support for the article and its content, etc.  livelikemusic    talk!  23:33, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
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