Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2018 April 30



File:Gray Exterior Sketch.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  03:04, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
 * File:Gray Exterior Sketch.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Griffin2902 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Unused artwork by uploader. Has no foreseeable educational use and as such is unsuitable for Commons. hiàn 01:39, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete, orphaned with no obvious value. Salavat (talk) 23:48, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
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File:Sachinpagire.jpg

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 * File:Sachinpagire.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Sachinpagire ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Useless facebook/selfie of editor blocked for NOTHERE. DMacks (talk) 03:39, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete, orphaned with no obvious value. Salavat (talk) 23:48, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
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File:Margaret Brennan Face the Nation set.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted as F8 by A file with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT ⚡ 03:04, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
 * File:Margaret Brennan Face the Nation set.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Thomcraver ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

This looks like a publicity still, OTRS desirable? ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 08:35, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

It is not an official publicity still. Because of previous ones not being CC Licensed by CBS, her producer took this photo on his cell phone about a half hour before the broadcast yesterday and sent it to me to post under a cc license. Margaret did not like the older photo that was there originally, not the one of her on the phone someone replaced it with.

I work for CBS News. I know I can't upload photos CBS holds a copywrite to, especially after a conversation with User:GRuban last week. I specifically asked her producer to take a still using his cell to avoid using an official CBS owned image. Thomcraver (talk) 18:23, 30 April 2018 (UTC)] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thomcraver (talk • contribs) 09:06, 30 April 2018 (UTC)


 * That would still require OTRS confirmation of the license from the producer who took the photo. -- Whpq (talk) 02:26, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Instead having the producer send you a photo, you can simply ask them to upload the photo directly to Wikimedia Commons by following c:COM:UL. They will need to register for a Wikipedia or Commons account, but if the producer and Brennan want a photo to use, then that's probably the simplest solution. The producer should just upload the photo's original data file under any of these licenses. Another possibility, but a little more complicated, would be for the producer to upload the file to some website such as Flickr and release it under a free license acceptable for Commons as explained in c:COM:OTRS. You could then download the file and upload it to Commons as explained in c:COM:F. -- Marchjuly (talk) 12:33, 1 May 2018 (UTC)


 * So, I've been mentioned. As Thomcraver writes, I tried to advise them about a Margaret Brennan image on their talk page, User_talk:Thomcraver. I said they could either 1) post an official image on an official CBS news page, with release, or 2) email permissions-commons@wikimedia.org from an official CBS news email address, with release. Instead, according to their note on my talk page, they thanked me for my guidance, then "had a producer take a picture this morning with his personal cell phone and had him send it to [Thomcraver] with CC permission." I'm guessing this is that picture. Sigh. Was I really that unclear?
 * Look, Thom. The point we're trying to get across here is that we need an image release from the image owner (which is usually the photographer, unless contract says otherwise). If you're not the image owner, you can't release the picture. If the photographer emailed you the "CC permission", that doesn't help us; it needs to come from the photographer to us. Makes sense? So you need to get the photographer to send that email that he sent you to permissions-commons@wikimedia.org. It should say who he is, that he took the picture, it should identify the picture (a link to the picture or a copy would work), and it should identify the specific license for the image (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/ is pretty common). That's the "OTRS confirmation" that Whpq is writing about. It should come from an email that the producer will answer, because people from Commons OTRS may write back to double check, and it would be useful if it were a cbsnews.com work email address because that would go some way to proving he is who he says he is. OK? Not rocket science, really. The photographer could also do one of the things that Marchjuly recommends, they would also work. --GRuban (talk) 14:08, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

The sarcasm, while understood, is a bit much, isn't it?

Since the the original uploaded photo was removed, I presumed a personal photo taken by a normal person who emailed it to me with permission would be fine. I didn't realize the release was still needed for such a photo. Hence why I instructed him to take a personal photo.

So no: you were perfectly clear on clarifying what resembled a copyrighted image. However, I didn't apply that mentality to a personal cell phone photo. I wonder if the photo wasn't taken on set if the same conversation would have ensued.

Regardless, the picture taker has since emailed permissions-commons [at] wikimedia.org. Hopefully this is all resolved now. My apologies for the misunderstanding with the second image. Thomcraver (talk) 18:24, 3 May 2018 (UTC)]


 * OTRS verified, and I have tagged the image accordingly. I'm sorry this got more complicated than initially expected. Mikael Häggström (talk) 21:11, 3 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Now that this as been OTRS verified, any questions about its licensing should be resolved and image should not end up being deleted. There are, however, a few more things that need a little clean up. If you could add Information to the file's page and complete it as best as you can, then that would be a big help. Just add the template to the "Summary" section. Knowing the who, what, when and why about the photo will clarify a lot of things. The image should also be tagged with Copy to Wikimedia Commons as well since that would really be a better place to host it. This won't affect how the file is being used on Wikipedia, but it will make it much easier for the file to used by all Wikimedia Foundation projects. -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:36, 4 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Withdrawn - OTRS provided. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 06:44, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
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File:CS Banana.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Free image found on commons Ron h jones (Talk) 23:06, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
 * File:CS Banana.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Flagmanbruce ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

File is tagged with Non-free promotional, but right above license there is a statement saying "Below tag is used since one is needed, but there is no evidence that the image is copyrighted. It applies only if there exists a copyright on the image". So, the first question is whether needs to be non-free content. If not, then the license should be updated accordingly and the non-free use rationales replaced with Information because freely licensed or public domain images do not need to have such rationales. Changing the copyright license from non-free, but leaving the rationales will create a conflict, and possibly cause the file to be tagged with wrong license.

If the file needs to be treated as non-free, then only the non-free use in Canaan Banana for primary identification purposes seems appropriate. Even though the file does have non-free use rationales for each of its use, just having a rationale does not make the particular use policy compliant per WP:JUSTONE. The use of the file in the other two articles (University of Zimbabwe and President of Zimbabwe is a type of non-free use typically notconsidered acceptable per WP:NFTABLES and WP:NFLISTS because it is decorative and lacking the context required by WP:NFCC and the minimal use required by WP:NFCC. Non-free images are pretty much never allowed to illustrate individual table or list entries and a link to the stand-alone article where the file can be seen is considered sufficient per WP:NFCC. I don't see how the use in the articles about the office and the university are exceptions to what is commonly allowed in such cases. So, if the file is non-free, then keep in "Canaan Banana", but remove from "University of Zimbabwe" and "President of Zimbabwe". -- Marchjuly (talk) 11:26, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Per WP:NFCC, the file needs a source. "Government of Zimbabwe" is obviously inadequate. It's like writing "Government of the United States" or "Library of Congress" as source for a picture of a former president of the United States. --Stefan2 (talk) 20:15, 5 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I concur with Stefan2. Before we go any further into its status, we have to have a source to evaluate said status. --Hammersoft (talk) 00:41, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Should the file be tagged with nsd then? The file's uploader was notified of this FFD, but they don't appear to have edited since July 2016; so, it seems likely they will not repsond to a speedy deletion notification as well. -- Marchjuly (talk) 02:22, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Files without source can be deleted at FFD too, so it's in my opinion not necessary to tag with {{subst:nsd}}, but I see no problem with closing this as "tagged with {{subst:nsd}}" if the closing admin feels that it's better to do so, although I see little point in doing so. --Stefan2 (talk) 11:37, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
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File:JoelCrothers.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  03:04, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
 * File:JoelCrothers.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Shkarter1985 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

unencyclopedic, low-quality, unlikely to be useful in Wikipedia, which is WP:NOT a host for fanart Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 14:53, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete, orphaned with no obvious value. Salavat (talk) 23:49, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
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File:Madhumita Sarkar as Iman.PNG

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted as F5 by AnomieBOT ⚡  01:02, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
 * File:Madhumita Sarkar as Iman.PNG ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Abir susnigdha ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Not non-free poster file. This photo is living person photo. Misuse use of fair use images of television program posters license. Delete per WP:NFP. Siddiqsazzad001      18:11, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
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File:Aparajita Ghosh Das as Roopkatha.PNG

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 * File:Aparajita Ghosh Das as Roopkatha.PNG ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Abir susnigdha ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Not non-free poster file. This photo is living person photo. Misuse use of fair use images of television program posters license. Delete per WP:NFP. Siddiqsazzad001      18:12, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
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File:Rishi Kaushik as Ranojoy.PNG

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted as F5 by AnomieBOT ⚡  01:02, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
 * File:Rishi Kaushik as Ranojoy.PNG ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Abir susnigdha ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Not non-free poster file. This photo is living person photo. Misuse use of fair use images of television program posters license. Delete per WP:NFP. Siddiqsazzad001      18:13, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
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File:Badshah Moitra.png

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted as F5 by AnomieBOT ⚡  01:02, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
 * File:Badshah Moitra.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Abir susnigdha ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Not non-free poster file. This photo is living person photo. Misuse use of fair use images of television program posters license. Delete per WP:NFP. Siddiqsazzad001      18:14, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
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File:Roosha Chatterjee as Shruti in Kusum Dola.PNG
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted as F5 by AnomieBOT ⚡  01:02, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
 * <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx ffd-file" id="File:Roosha Chatterjee as Shruti in Kusum Dola.PNG">File:Roosha Chatterjee as Shruti in Kusum Dola.PNG ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Abir susnigdha ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Not non-free poster file. This photo is living person photo. Misuse use of fair use images of television program posters license. Delete per WP:NFP. Siddiqsazzad001   <Talk/>   18:14, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
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File:RR Keshavamurthy.jpg
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 * File:RR Keshavamurthy.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by LifeNmusic ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Summary by uploader that "there is no trust or organisation that holds copyrights to [the subject's] works or his images" is dubious and conflicts directly with stated GFDL/CC licensing. IronGargoyle (talk) 19:06, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
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File:Alex Rodriguez and Chris Garcia Dinner.jpg
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 * File:Alex Rodriguez and Chris Garcia Dinner.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Washdc2018 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Is facebook photo from the El Paso Hispanic Chamber Public Domain? I doubt the El Paso Hispanic Chamber releases their photos in the PD... Corky 22:57, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
 * File was previously uploaded at File:Chris Garcia and Alex Rodriguez.jpg. hiàn 02:13, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
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