Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2018 December 17



File:Lorde Rolling Stone, 2014.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: delete. B (talk) 12:09, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
 * File:Lorde Rolling Stone, 2014.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by De88 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).


 * Delete This is a contested PROD. The uploader nominated this file at FFD (although with no rationale) as a result of this discussion] on my talk page.  The use of this image fails WP:NFCC as the image is not the subject of significant sourced commentary in the article.  Furthermore, the stated purpose "It serves as a visual aid for users to understand the prominence of Lorde in the mainstream, particularly the headline in the cover." is replaceable with decriptive text that explains her media prominence and as such also fails WP:NFCC. -- Whpq (talk) 00:55, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete ¶  This image's purpose is declared as, "This picture illustrates Lorde on the cover of a Rolling Stone magazine. It serves as a visual aid for users to understand the prominence of Lorde in the mainstream, particularly the headline in the cover."  Readers don't need illustration to understand that the subject was featured on a magazine cover.  As for 'serving as a visual aid', there is no accompanying prose about Ms. Yelich-O'Connor that requires non-free content to understand, nor does the article become less-understood without its presence (WP:NFCC).  —   fourthords  &#124; =Λ= &#124;  19:43, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
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File:Regina lewis-ward.jpeg

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The result of the discussion was: delete. B (talk) 12:10, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
 * File:Regina lewis-ward.jpeg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Brookline1 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

This appears to be a widely distributed publicity photo. See subject;'s official site. WP:OTRS confirmation that the uploader is indeed the copyright holder is needed. Whpq (talk) 03:09, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
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File:MinnesotaStreetcarMuseum.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: keep. Renamed to File:TCRT 1300 at the Minnesota Streetcar Museum, 2009.jpg as requested B (talk) 12:10, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
 * File:MinnesotaStreetcarMuseum.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Minnesota Jones ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

A better name would be File:TCRT 1300 at the Minnesota Streetcar Museum, 2009. &thinsp;&mdash; Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)&thinsp; 05:46, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Wrong venue. See for how to rename a file. Mackensen (talk) 13:07, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
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File:Hotel-Dunapartft.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: relisted on. B (talk) 12:13, 25 December 2018 (UTC)


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File:LSMR-409.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: relisted on. B (talk) 12:13, 25 December 2018 (UTC)


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File:Screen shot Federal Fugitives.png
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The result of the discussion was: delete. B (talk) 12:15, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
 * File:Screen shot Federal Fugitives.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Bzuk ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

The screenshot is used in the production section of Federal Fugitives. The fair use rationale states its purpose is "This image is being used to illustrate the article on the film in question and is used for informational or educational purposes only." The image fails WP:NFCC since the poster already illustrates the article and there is no critical commentary of the image itself in the article, it does nothing to increase the reader's understanding of the film and its exclusion is not detrimental to the understanding of the film, thereby failing WP:NFCC. Aspects (talk) 16:49, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Impossible to guess what the scale model is without an image. AFAIK, this is the only scene in the film that shows what the aircraft in the story looks like. The film is supposed to be about aircraft secrets being stolen but no aircraft appear in the film, so therefore, an image is important. FWiW Bzuk (talk) 18:10, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
 * There was no mention of the scene until you added one, after this replay. By your addition, this is a "a fleeting shot," which shows it is not that important in the film and is not necessary to the understanding of the film. The addition is still not critical commentary, but simply describing the scene, and with the scene described, the image now fails WP:NFCC having been replaced with words. There has been no change to make a valid rationale on its file page and nothing in your reply shows hows this passes WP:NFCC or WP:NFCC, therefore it should still be deletd. Aspects (talk) 19:13, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
 * The caption plus note explained the importance of the film model. The photo is the only indication of what was supposed to be an aircraft company, but one without any aircraft, save the model. The production house was one of the "poverty row" companies as described by Steven Pendo in his landmark book on aviation films. Many other films of this era tried to exploit the news of the day and spy stories abounded in the media. This film tried to do a story that was current and used a model of a revolutionary new aircraft, the Bell XP-39 Airacobra to create a sense of the high-tech company then involved in the aviation industry. The fact that the model is only seen in one scene is indicative of the importance of the model in setting the scene of being in a secretive operation. FWiW Bzuk (talk) 01:56, 9 December 2018 (UTC)

<div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 10:16, 9 December 2018 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, B (talk) 13:05, 17 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete - FAils WP:NFCC. There is no significant sourced commentary about this scene that would justify its inclusion. -- Whpq (talk) 13:23, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
 * 'Keep Please note an entire passage (following) was devoted to setting the scene for the inclusion of an image of a scale aircraft. "Typical of the low-budget spy genre of the period that often linked together latest aviation technology, Federal Fugitives did not have the benefit of on-location or studio sound stage scenes to create an aviation milieu. The aircraft being depicted is the top-secret Bell P-39 Airacobra in a scale model form. <refname="Pendo, p. 203">Pendo 1985, p. 203. " How would an audience know what the aircraft company produced or that the aircraft it designed was a state-of-the-srt prototype without an image? FWiW Bzuk (talk)
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