Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2018 December 9



File:Hotel-Dunapartft.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: relisted on. B (talk) 12:41, 17 December 2018 (UTC)


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File:Cyril Luckham.gif

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The result of the discussion was: keep. No valid reason for deletion given. The source website being "rife with copyright violations" doesn't matter because we're using this image under a claim of fair use. WP:NFCC says that we credit the copyright holder "where possible", so if we have no idea what the original source is, but we are quite confident that the photo is authentic, then that's not the end of the world. If the image were replaceable (WP:NFCC) with a free version, then that would be an issue, but since these were British films first published in the UK, it is unlikely that there are going to be any public domain ones. His first movie, Murder in Reverse will be PD-US-only in 2040 and PD in the UK in 2059. The first one to expire everywhere will be Out of the Clouds, which will be PD in the US in 2051 and in the UK (and basically everywhere) in 2042. B (talk) 13:04, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
 * File:Cyril Luckham.gif ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Sammyrice ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

"Unable to find another photo of subject" is not sufficient under WP:FU. Nor is the source identified; another site containing the photo is listed, but that doesn't identify the copyright holder of the image. Indeed, that site is rife with copyright violations. Note however, the uploader correctly noted that the subject has been deceased since 1989. Yamla (talk) 12:01, 1 December 2018 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * As the need for these discussions shows, the rules for these uploads are difficult to interpret definitively. I have been guided by moral considerations in putting these photos up: (1) to help Wikipedia readers; (2) to protect copyright by reducing the photos to a quality below commercial level; (3) to respect the subject by uploading only photos that are both representative and not un-flattering; (4) to provide what information I can find about a photo's origin and ownership. I shall have to leave the rest to the rules experts.Sammyrice (talk) 22:50, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
 * These rules are indeed difficult to interpret definitively. It's very clear to me that Sammyrice is acting in good faith. Sammy and I disagree on this particular image and while I think I'm correct, it's quite plausible I'm in the wrong here. Regardless, I sincerely thank Sammyrice for his good-faith efforts around images, particularly those of long-deceased subjects where copyright and fair use is even harder than normal. --Yamla (talk) 23:01, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment: This looks like it might be a screenshot taken of Luckham from one of his movie/television appearances. He is deceased and non-free photos, etc. of deceased individuals are allowed per item 10 of WP:NFCI and long as WP:FREER and WP:COPYLINK are not an issue. Obviously a new photo of him cannot be created, but there might be some image of him floating around somewhere which would be PD-US-no notice or PD-US-not renewed which might exist. If there are concerns about the source website being "rife of copyright violations" and the use of a non-free image is deemed OK, then either figuring out which film this came from (if it's indeed a screenshot) or finding a better sourced non-free photo (per WP:NFCC) to use instead of this file might be a way to resolve this. Scrooling down on the source website shows the same image as being credited to an episode titled "Iris" from the TV series The Saint (TV series), but I have no idea if that's accurate. -- Marchjuly (talk) 03:04, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 10:16, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
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File:Screen shot Federal Fugitives.png

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The result of the discussion was: relisted on. B (talk) 13:05, 17 December 2018 (UTC)


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File:LSMR-409.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: relisted on. B (talk) 13:05, 17 December 2018 (UTC)


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File:National Highway 709 Bangladesh.svg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by A file with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT ⚡ 05:03, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
 * File:National Highway 709 Bangladesh.svg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Asm sultan ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Available on Commons with a slightly different font, but the image is just as good. Magog the Ogre (t • c) 16:24, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete Agree, the wikipedia image is now redundant now that we have an almost same copy at commons. -- D Big X ray ᗙ  00:00, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
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