Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2018 June 18



File:Kooning woman v.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: delete. The keep arguments are missing an explanation of how WP:NFCC criteria are met. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 06:50, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
 * File:Kooning woman v.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Philosophistry ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Excessive non-free use, including galleries. Not all uses satisfy the contextual significance criterion. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:00, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep As with all the ones below, JJMC89 has first removed fair use templates with inadequate explanation, and then put these up here. This is not a good way to proceed. In any case, some fair uses remained, so I'm not sure what the point of "discussing" here is. Johnbod (talk) 12:46, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep all those visual art images below...Modernist (talk) 12:48, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
 * In the article Willem de Kooning, it is reasonable to have one example of a painting mad by this artist, but the article also contains a different image (File:Woman3.jpg). Per WP:NFCC, there is no need to have two paintings in the article, so one of the paintings, either this one or the other one, will have to go. All other use of the file clearly violates WP:NFCC: the articles are not specifically about this panting, and per WP:NFC §6, you should link to the article about the painter (or the article about one of his paintings, for example Woman III) instead of including the painting in the articles. Additionally, all of the FURs violate WP:NFCC as the rationales aren't relevant to each use. --Stefan2 (talk) 17:19, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete. Willem de Kooning already contains File:Woman3.jpg (which should also be removed anyway under WP:NFC§6, since Woman III exists), so the inclusion of this file violates WP:NFCC. The use in all other articles violates WP:NFCC, as freely licensed art exist in order to depict the styles and time periods. ℯ xplicit 05:10, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
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File:Kline no2.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: No consensus on using it in Franz Kline, remove from everywhere else. OK; seems like there is some support for keeping the image in Franz Kline but some caveats about levels of explanation, so calling it "no consensus". As for the other uses, there are valid NFCC concerns stated by multiple people and it seems like nobody has come up with a policy or guideline based rationale to keeping it anywhere else. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 06:19, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
 * File:Kline no2.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Philosophistry ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Excessive non-free use, including galleries. Not all uses satisfy the contextual significance criterion. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:00, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep As with all the ones below, JJMC89 has first removed fair use templates with inadequate explanation, and then put these up here. This is not a good way to proceed. In any case, some fair uses remained, so I'm not sure what the point of "discussing" here is. Johnbod (talk) 12:46, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep all those visual art images below...Modernist (talk) 12:54, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete for several reasons:
 * 1) WP:NFCC: This is a painting by an American painter who died in 1962. It is therefore likely that some of his paintings were published (for example by virtue of having been exhibited at an art gallery) without a copyright notice or without a copyright renewal. It doesn't say where this painting has been published or whether there was a notice and/or renewal, so we have to assume that it is unfree; however, there should be no need to accept a non-free file on Wikipedia as it should be possible to locate a free painting.
 * 2) *If you can locate a Franz Kline without copyright - then load it...Modernist (talk) 15:19, 27 June 2018 (UTC)
 * 3) WP:NFCC: The articles Abstract expressionism, History of painting and Visual art of the United States are articles listing many different art styles. They do not need to contain any non-free files; instead, they should link to articles about art styles, paintings and painters, per WP:NFC §6.
 * 4) *Common sense demands that this be painting be included in all of those articles...Modernist (talk) 15:19, 27 June 2018 (UTC)
 * 5) WP:NFCC: It seems that the person who added the FURs didn't bother reading the FURs. The text is largely duplicated, and the FURs aren't relevant to each use. --Stefan2 (talk) 17:38, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
 * 6) *If you think the FURs should be improved - then do it...Modernist (talk) 11:10, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
 * 7) ** Please try not to insert your comments/rebuttals into the posts of other editors as explained in the third paragraph of WP:TPO because it messes the formating and may make it unlcear as to who posted what and when they posted it. As for your comments, it's the repsonsibility of the person wanting to use a non-free file in particular way to provide a valid rationale per WP:NFCCE. The fact that you simply are just copying-and-pasting boilerplate rationales from one use to another simply changing the name of the article is something for you to fix, not someone else. It's the person wanting to use the file in a certain way who is best suited for explaining how that particular use complies with relevant policy and non-free use rationales are required to be separate and specific for each use. So, if you're unable or unwilling to do that, then maybe the file's non-free use is indeed not appropriate and it should be removed. As for repeatedly arguing WP:USC, that's not really helpful with non-free images and is bascially a WP:MEETOO, WP:JUSTONE, and WP:LIKEIMAGE type of argument. Editors are specifically citing policy when they are suggesting that this file be removed; they may be incorrect, but you need to show how they by also citing relevant policy and not just by making broad statements like "visual art needs to be seen" or "Commons sense demands" because those are not going to help establish a consensus in support for your position. So, if you feel this file being used in a particular article complies with the WP:NFCCP, please try and be specific in stating how it does using the same criterion that others are referring to in their comments. If you want to in general argue that WP:NFCC needs revising per WP:USC or whatever reason, then you should do that at WT:NFCC. This FFD discusison is about the non-free use of this image, not a discussion about whether the current policy is good or bad. -- Marchjuly (talk) 02:21, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
 * 8) ***Thanks for your comments - However my words speak clearly and correctly; visual art needs to be seen; if in your opinion changes or additions need to be made to fair use rationales - then make them...Modernist (talk) 11:37, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
 * 9) ****And once again, the burden for providing valid non-free use ratioanles for each use is yours per WP:NFCCE since you are the one who wants the image to be used in these various articles. If you strongly feel the rationales are fine as is, then leave them as they are. However, all of the rationale tweaking in the world is going to make no difference at all per WP:JUSTONE if the consensus is that the particular ways this file is being used in some or all of these articles still doesn't comply with the remaining other non-free content use criteria, and you've provided no policy-based reason to argue that they do. -- Marchjuly (talk) 11:46, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
 * 10) *****As I have stated countless times over a dozen years - these images are important, historical, and speak for themselves; they should remain in all the articles in which they appear. Your rules are interpreted wrongly in relationship to visual art. These images need to remain in place...Modernist (talk) 12:50, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
 * 11) ****** WP:NFCC is Wikipedia policy established by the community; it's not any individual editor's rules. Moreover, if you've been saying the same thing over a dozen years, then your arguments have obviously not been persuasive enough to establish a consensus in favor of changing the policy to add an exception which gives special consideration to visual art. -- Marchjuly (talk) 13:22, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
 * 12) *******Not necessarily true. Those rules have been established by your project; by the handful of editors who function here by enforcing those rules; that have been put in place without regard to common sense and how to deal properly with the visual arts...Modernist (talk) 13:31, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
 * 13) ********WP:NFCC is not a WikiProject policy or guideline; it's a community-wide policy with legal considerations. This is quite clear from the banner at the very top of the NFCC page; however, if you believe this is a case of a local consensus overriding a community-wide policy, then you can sart a discussion at WP:VP/P explaining this and see if you can persuade others to change the policy accordingly. -- Marchjuly (talk) 14:28, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete. Per Stefan2. ℯ xplicit 05:10, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Conditional keep in Franz Kline as a representative example of the artist's work and conditional keep in Action painting as a representative example of this particular style of painting, but only if the context required by WP:NFCC can be better met in both articles.
 * For the Kline article, the file really shouldn't be being used in the main infobox since the purpose of that image is the primary indentification of the subject of the article (i.e., Kline himself); the image of the painting only makes sense being used in the main infobox of a stand-alone article about the painting itself. FWIW, Kline is deceased so it seems reasonable to allow a non-free image of him (perhaps like this) to be used in the article as explained in item 10 of WP:NFCI as long as there are no issues with WP:NFCC. The problem is that the painting is only mentioned by name in the files caption which is not nearly enough to justify it's non-free use. So, more sourced critical commentary about the painting should be added to the article establishes that this particular painting is representative of Kline and his particular style, and the image should then be moved from the infobox to near that content. The same can be said for "Action painting" in that it might be possible to justify this as representaive examaple of this particular style of painting; however, there is basically no mention of the painting outside of the file caption. It would probably be best to take the content about the painting found in Abstract expressionism and move it to the "Action painting" article to better justify the file's non-free use as a representative example.
 * Remove from Abstract expressionism, History of painting and Visual art of the United States for the reasons pointed out by Stefan2 and because simply mentioning a non-free image by name is not a sufficient justification for non-free use in more general genre/history articles per item 6 of WP:NFC and NFCC#8. Removing the file from these three articles and linking to or providing a hatnote to the article(s) where in can be seen is more than sufficient and would not be detrimental to the reader's understanding of the more general content. -- Marchjuly (talk) 02:52, 28 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep, fair use established per above. Randy Kryn (talk) 12:09, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Remove from all articles except Franz Kline in the absence of substantive sourced commentary regarding the specific painting.The use in the Kline bio is far from ideal, but it currently stands there as the sole example of his work. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo). Treated like dirt by many administrators since 2006.   (talk) 12:16, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep, fair use established per above. Coldcreation (talk) 19:32, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Non-free use is not automatic per WP:NFCCP and the NFCCP is not the same as fair use per WP:NFC. This file has multiple uses, not all of which might comply with relevant Wikipedia policy. So, arguing WP:ITSFAIRUSE or WP:MEETOO doesn't address any of the issues raised here, especially since the above "keep" !votes also don't address the concerns raised aout this file's non-free use. -- Marchjuly (talk) 21:11, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
 * The painting is relevant to all the articles in which it is included and should stay in all of them...Modernist (talk) 20:45, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Remove from all except Kline, which instance would need a beefier FUR and in-text content on why that non-free usage is representative of the artist's work. Otherwise remove that one too. The image isn't even used in some of the articles for which it has fair use rationales, and the ones for which it does have rationales are unconvincing. The onus is on the person who adds the image to provide WP:NFCC#8 contextual significance in the article's prose. Feel free to restore the images if/when you can provide that contextual significance. czar  16:38, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
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File:Hans Hofmann&

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The result of the discussion was: relisted on. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 06:21, 18 July 2018 (UTC)


 * File:Hans Hofmann& ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs])
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File:&

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The result of the discussion was: Remove from all articles except Mark Tobey. OK, the blanket "keep" arguments are much too perfunctory to override the NFCC concerns. It isn't so clear from the discussion whether the image should be removed from Mark Tobey but clear that it doesn't go on the other articles. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:38, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
 * File:& ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Wmpearl ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Excessive non-free use, including galleries. Not all uses satisfy the contextual significance criterion. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:01, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep and all those visual art images below...Modernist (talk) 13:01, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete Again, a painting by an American painter who was active when a copyright notice and renewal was required. Per WP:NFCC, we should not accept a non-free painting by him. Additionally, this is an unambiguous violation of WP:NFCC in all articles except the one about the painter. Additionally, the FURs are invalid as they are not relevant to each use. --Stefan2 (talk) 17:45, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete. Per Stefan2. ℯ xplicit 05:10, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep, fair use established per above comments. Randy Kryn (talk) 12:09, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Remove from all articles except Mark Tobey in the absence of sourced substsantive critical commentary. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo). Treated like dirt by many administrators since 2006.   (talk) 12:33, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep, fair use established per above. Coldcreation (talk) 19:34, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
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File:Oil painting by Sam Francis.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: No consensus on Sam Francis, but remove from everywhere else.. OK, the blanket "keep" arguments are much too perfunctory to override the NFCC concerns. It is not enough that an image satisfy fair use criteria to stay here; it also needs to comply with the much stricter non-free use policy. It isn't so clear from the discussion whether the image should be removed from Sam Francis but clear that it doesn't go on the other articles. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:41, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
 * File:Oil painting by Sam Francis.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Wmpearl ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Excessive non-free use, including galleries. Not all uses satisfy the contextual significance criterion. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:02, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep and all those visual art images below...Modernist (talk) 13:01, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete Again, a painting by an American painter who was active when a copyright notice and renewal was required. Per WP:NFCC, we should not accept a non-free painting by him. Additionally, this is an unambiguous violation of WP:NFCC in all articles except the one about the painter. Additionally, the FURs are invalid as they are not relevant to each use. --Stefan2 (talk) 17:46, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete. Per Stefan2. ℯ xplicit 05:10, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep, fair use established per above comments. Randy Kryn (talk) 12:09, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep, fair use established per above. Coldcreation (talk) 19:34, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Remove from all articles except Sam Francis in the absence of substantive sourced commentary regarding the specific painting.The use in the Francis bio is not ideal, but it currently stands there as the sole example of his work. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo). Treated like dirt by many administrators since 2006.   (talk) 11:49, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
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File:Robert Motherwell&
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The result of the discussion was: No consensus on the use in the author's bio, but remove from other articles. OK, the blanket "keep" arguments are much too perfunctory to override the NFCC concerns. It is not enough that an image satisfy fair use criteria to stay here; it also needs to comply with the much stricter non-free use policy. It isn't so clear whether it should be kept on the author's article but it clearly has consensus for removal from the others. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:43, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
 * <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx ffd-file" id="File:Robert Motherwell&#39;s &#39;Elegy to the Spanish Republic No. 110&#39;.jpg">File:Robert Motherwell& ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Wpearl ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Excessive non-free use, including galleries. Not all uses satisfy the contextual significance criterion. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:03, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep and all those visual art images below...Modernist (talk) 13:01, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete Again, a painting by an American painter who was active when a copyright notice and renewal was required. Per WP:NFCC, we should not accept a non-free painting by him. Additionally, this is an unambiguous violation of WP:NFCC in all articles except the one about the painter. Additionally, the FURs are invalid as they are not relevant to each use. --Stefan2 (talk) 17:48, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete. Per Stefan2. <b style="color:#4B0082;">ℯ</b> xplicit 05:10, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep, fair use established per above. Randy Kryn (talk) 12:09, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep, fair use established per above. Coldcreation (talk) 19:35, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Remove from all articles except the artist's bio as unrelated to sourced substantive commentary regarding the specific paintings. While some uses are accompanied by references, the referenced text is not actually supported by the references given; for example, in Color field, the reference places different Motherwell works into that category. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo). Treated like dirt by many administrators since 2006.   (talk) 18:14, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
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File:&
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The result of the discussion was: No consensus on the use in the author's bio but consensus for removal from elsewhere. OK, the blanket "keep" arguments are much too perfunctory to override the NFCC concerns. It is not enough that an image satisfy fair use criteria to stay here; it also needs to comply with the much stricter non-free use policy. It isn't so clear whether it should be kept on the author's article but it clearly has consensus for removal from the others. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:46, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
 * <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx ffd-file" id="File:&#39;Magenta, Black, Green on Orange&#39;, oil on canvas painting by Mark Rothko, 1947, Museum of Modern Art.jpg">File:& ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Wmpearl ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Excessive non-free use, including galleries. Not all uses satisfy the contextual significance criterion. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:03, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep and all those visual art images below...Modernist (talk) 13:01, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete. Violates WP:NFCC in History of painting, as freely licensed art exist in order to depict the history of painting, and WP:NFCC in Mark Rothko as multiple non-free images are used when one would suffice. <b style="color:#4B0082;">ℯ</b> xplicit 02:32, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep, fair use established, very representative of Rothko's work and an important addition to the pages. Randy Kryn (talk) 12:09, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep, fair use established per above. Coldcreation (talk) 22:25, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Remove from History of painting, where it is unrelated to substsntive sourced commentary. In the artist's bio, there are clearly too many purely illustrative examples, but the other three nonfree images there are unrelated to substantive sourced commentary and should be removed, while this use both can serve as a paradigmatic example of the artist's work and is associated with substantive sourced commentary. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo). Treated like dirt by many administrators since 2006.   (talk) 21:03, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
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File:Jasper Johns&
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The result of the discussion was: Keep on Flag (painting), remove from elsewhere, no consensus on a potential use Jasper Johns. OK, the blanket "keep" arguments are much too perfunctory to override the NFCC concerns. It is not enough that an image satisfy fair use criteria to stay here; it also needs to comply with the much stricter non-free use policy. Consensus is that using it on the Flag (painting) page is fine but that everywhere else it needs to go. Not enough discussion to assess whether it may merit a second use on Jasper Johns would be appropriate. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:50, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
 * <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx ffd-file" id="File:Jasper Johns&#39;s &#39;Flag&#39;, Encaustic, oil and collage on fabric mounted on plywood,1954-55.jpg">File:Jasper Johns& ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Wpearl ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Excessive non-free use, including galleries. Not all uses satisfy the contextual significance criterion. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:03, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep and all those visual art images below...Modernist (talk) 13:01, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep in Flag (painting), remove all other instances. Violates WP:NFCC in History of painting, Late modernism, Pop art, and Western painting as freely licensed art exists in order to depict the history of painting, late modernism, pop art, and western painting. <b style="color:#4B0082;">ℯ</b> xplicit 02:32, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep, fair use established for this important painting in all the pages mentioned above. Representative of the genre, this work "explains" much of the history of modern and pop art and the history of painting itself. Randy Kryn (talk) 12:09, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
 * The file is being used in five articles, but it is actually being used a combined six times in those articles. Keep in Flag (painting) where the file is being used for primary identification in the main infobox of the stand-alone article about the work in question. Remove from Late modernism, History of painting and Western_painting per WP:NFCC, WP:NFCC and item 6 of WP:NFC. There's no sourced critical discussion of this painting in any of these three articles and there's no sourced content which shows that it's particularly representative of this particular styp/genre of painting. In "Late modernism", Jasper Johns is not even mentioned by name in the section where the painting is being used and the only time the painting is mentioned is in the file's caption. There are a number of artist mentioned in that particular section, but there are no non-free examples of their work being used in that particular section. In the "History of painting" article, Jasper Jones is mentioned by name three times, and the painting isn't even mentioned by name once. It's in a gallery (which is a problem per WP:NFG) with two other non-free files used as general examples, but there's no sourced critical commentary of the painting and only the unsourced claim "The innovations of Johns' specific use of various images and objects like chairs, numbers, targets, beer cans and the American flag". Same goes for the "Western painting" article: the painting is mentioned by name once in the file's caption, and indirectly referenced in the claim "Johns' use of various images and objects like chairs, numbers, targets, beer cans and the American Flag". None of this requires that this file be seen by the reader in either of these articles and a link to the file's stand-alone article is more than sufficient for each.  Remove from Pop art. The file is actually being used twice in this article which is clearly unnecessary per WP:NFCC. The use in the image gallery in Pop art is decorative and not acceptable per WP:NFG. This particular use is also lacking the separate specific non-free use rationale required by WP:NFCC. The other use in Pop art lacks the context required by NFCC#8 (the painting is only mentioned by name in the file's caption); so, not only is it not clear why three non-free examples of pop art are needed for this section, but it's not clear why this particular file needs to be seen by the reader.  Lastly, the one article where the file is not being used, but where its non-free use might possibly be policy compliant is in Jasper Johns. The article describes this painting as being the work for which Johns is best known. Even though that claim is unsourced, perhaps sources can found to better establish the claim and the painting can be used as a representative example of Johns work. The problem is that there are three other non-free images, including two flag-related also being used in the article, and there's no need to have four representative non-free examples of his work in the article per NFCC#3a unless there is specific sourced commentary for each or for each particular style/techinique used in painting them. -- Marchjuly (talk) 14:15, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep, fair use established per above: One of the most important paintings of the century, must be seen. Coldcreation (talk) 22:26, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
 * "Must be seen" is a WP:LIKEIMAGE type of argument that doesn't really address the specifics of the way the file is being used. The file is being used six times in five different articles; so, it will be helpful if you can clarify how you think each of these particular uses satisfies relevant policy. Simply going around and posting the same type of "important painting...art must seen" type of argument regardless of how the file may actually be being used seems to show that (1) you're not reading the posts of those you have expressed concern about some of the non-free uses of the file and (2) you feel non-free use of such images is automatically WP:NFCC compliant anytime the file is added to any article, even if it's added multiple times to the same article. The problem with (1) is that general WP:MEETOO !votes don't really help establish a consensus either way, especially if they are in support of other !votes which also don't address any of the relevant issues associated with non-free content use; the problem with (2) is that the NFCC clearly says that non-free use is not automatic and WP:JUSTONE clearly says that simply providing a non-free use rationale also doesn't mean NFCC compliance. Nobody is suggesting that the file souldn't be seen; in fact, can be see in Flag (painting). Nobody is also suggesting that the file should be deleted; only removed from those articles where its non-free use is believed to not comply with the NFCC. If you feel the NFCC should be changed, so that the non-free use of these this type of non-free content is automatically considered acceptable in each and every article as long as somebody adds a copied-and-pasted boilerplate non-free use rationale, then the place to propose that is at WT:NFC or perhaps at WP:VP/P. -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:27, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
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File:Marilyndiptych.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Keep and remove all instances of the images below except the one mentioned by. -- Amanda  (aka DQ) 08:45, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
 * File:Marilyndiptych.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Cmyk ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Excessive non-free use, including galleries. Not all uses satisfy the contextual significance criterion. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:04, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep and all those visual art images below...Modernist (talk) 13:01, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep in Marilyn Diptych, remove all other instances. Violates WP:NFCC in History of painting, Pop art, and Portrait painting as freely licensed art exists in order to depict the history of painting, pop art, and portrait painting. <b style="color:#4B0082;">ℯ</b> xplicit 02:32, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep, an important work and free use established to portray pop art and the history of painting. Randy Kryn (talk) 12:09, 28 June 2018 (UTC)


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File:Roy Lichtenstein Whaam.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Keep and remove all instances of the images below except the one mentioned by. -- Amanda  (aka DQ) 08:45, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
 * File:Roy Lichtenstein Whaam.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Plrk ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Excessive non-free use, including galleries. Not all uses satisfy the contextual significance criterion. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:04, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep and all those visual art images below...Modernist (talk) 12:58, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep for use in Whaam!, but should be removed from other, more general, articles. Plrk (talk) 12:15, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep in Whaam!, remove all other instances. Violates WP:NFCC in History of painting as freely licensed art exists in order to depict the history of painting. <b style="color:#4B0082;">ℯ</b> xplicit 02:32, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep, an important example for the history of painting. Free use established in all cases. Randy Kryn (talk) 12:09, 28 June 2018 (UTC)


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File:Guitarlesson.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Keep and remove all instances of the images below except the one mentioned by. -- Amanda  (aka DQ) 08:45, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
 * File:Guitarlesson.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Mablerose ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Excessive non-free use, including galleries. Not all uses satisfy the contextual significance criterion. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:05, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep and all those visual art images below...Modernist (talk) 13:01, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep in Balthus, remove all other instances. Violates WP:NFCC in 20th-century Western painting and History of painting as freely licensed art exists in order to depict 20th-century Western painting and the history of painting. <b style="color:#4B0082;">ℯ</b> xplicit 02:32, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep, free use established for western painting and other paintings pages, an important example. Randy Kryn (talk) 12:09, 28 June 2018 (UTC)


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File:Head VI (1949).JPG
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The result of the discussion was: Keep and remove all instances of the images below except the one mentioned by. -- Amanda  (aka DQ) 08:45, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
 * <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx ffd-file" id="File:Head VI (1949).JPG">File:Head VI (1949).JPG ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Stamboultrain ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Excessive non-free use, including galleries. Not all uses satisfy the contextual significance criterion. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:05, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep and all those visual art images below...Modernist (talk) 13:01, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep in Head VI, remove all other instances. Fails WP:NFCC in History of painting and violates WP:NFC§6 in Francis Bacon (artist). <b style="color:#4B0082;">ℯ</b> xplicit 05:10, 26 June 2018 (UTC)


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File:Milton Avery - &
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The result of the discussion was: delete. OK, the blanket "keep" arguments are much too perfunctory to override the NFCC concerns. It is not enough that an image satisfy fair use criteria to stay here; it also needs to comply with the much stricter non-free use policy. It seems like none of the current uses satisfy the NFCC criteria per consensus but there may be a case for an use on Milton Avery - I guess you could ask for undeletion on WP:REFUND or my talk page if you want to write up sourced commentary in the article that needs the image. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:53, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
 * <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx ffd-file" id="File:Milton Avery - &#39;Green Sea&#39;, oil on canvas 1958, University of Kentucky Art Museum (Lexington, Kentucky).jpg">File:Milton Avery - & ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Wmpearl ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Excessive non-free use, including galleries. Not all uses satisfy the contextual significance criterion. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:06, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep and all those visual art images below...Modernist (talk) 13:01, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete. Violates WP:NFCC in 20th-century Western painting, History of painting, Landscape painting, and Western painting as freely licensed art exists in order to depict 20th-century Western painting, the history of painting, landscape painting, and Western painting. Also violates WP:NFCC in Milton Avery as the painting is not subject to critical commentary. <b style="color:#4B0082;">ℯ</b> xplicit 02:32, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep and free use established per above. Randy Kryn (talk) 12:09, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete None of its current usages discuss the painting in sourced prose so as to create a contextual necessity for illustrating the painting (WP:NFCC#8) where paraphrase alone cannot suffice. I wouldn't be opposed to keeping it in the painter's article if someone were to add in-text and FUR explanation of how the painting is emblematic of his work. (not watching, please )  czar  21:44, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
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File:Jasper Johns&
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The result of the discussion was: Keep and remove all instances of the images below except the one mentioned by. -- Amanda  (aka DQ) 08:45, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
 * <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx ffd-file" id="File:Jasper Johns&#39;s &#39;Map&#39;, 1961.jpg">File:Jasper Johns& ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Wpearl ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Excessive non-free use, including galleries. Not all uses satisfy the contextual significance criterion. Remove from all articles except the article about the work. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:06, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep and all those visual art images below...Modernist (talk) 13:01, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep in Map (painting), remove all other instances. Fails WP:NFCC in 20th-century Western painting, History of painting, and Western painting, and violates WP:NFC§6 in Jasper Johns. <b style="color:#4B0082;">ℯ</b> xplicit 05:10, 26 June 2018 (UTC)


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File:Robert Rauschenberg&
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The result of the discussion was: Keep and remove all instances of the images below except the one mentioned by. -- Amanda  (aka DQ) 08:45, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
 * <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx ffd-file" id="File:Robert Rauschenberg&#39;s untitled &#39;combine&#39;, 1963.jpg">File:Robert Rauschenberg& ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Wpearl ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Excessive non-free use, including galleries. Not all uses satisfy the contextual significance criterion. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:07, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep and all those visual art images below...Modernist (talk) 12:58, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep in Robert Rauschenberg, remove all other instances. Violates WP:NFCC in 20th-century Western painting, History of painting, Late modernism, Modernism, Postmodern art, and Western painting as freely licensed art exists in order to depict 20th-century Western painting, the history of painting, late modernism, modernism, postmodern art, and Western painting. <b style="color:#4B0082;">ℯ</b> xplicit 02:32, 28 June 2018 (UTC)


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File:Cityscape I 360.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: relisted on. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:54, 19 July 2018 (UTC)


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File:Richard Estes.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Keep in author's bio, remove from other pages. OK, the blanket "keep" arguments are much too perfunctory to override the NFCC concerns. It is not enough that an image satisfy fair use criteria to stay here; it also needs to comply with the much stricter non-free use policy. With that in mind it seems like consensus is in favour of having it only in the author's article. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:55, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
 * File:Richard Estes.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Zachiroth ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Excessive non-free use, including galleries. Not all uses satisfy the contextual significance criterion. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:09, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep and all those visual art images below...Modernist (talk) 13:06, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep in Richard Estes, remove all other instances. Violates WP:NFCC in 20th-century Western painting, History of painting, and Western painting as freely licensed art exists in order to depict 20th-century Western painting, the history of painting, and western painting. <b style="color:#4B0082;">ℯ</b> xplicit 02:32, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep, free use established. Randy Kryn (talk) 12:15, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Remove from all articles except the artist's bio. In each of those articles, the image appears in a gallery illustrating an entry in an unsourced list. These uses violate multiple NFCC standards/criteria. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo). Treated like dirt by many administrators since 2006.   (talk) 17:12, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
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File:Fairfield Porter&
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The result of the discussion was: relisted on. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:56, 19 July 2018 (UTC)


 * <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx ffd-file" id="File:Fairfield Porter&#39;s painting &#39;Under the Elms&#39;, 1971 - 1972.jpg">File:Fairfield Porter& ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs])
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File:Ralph Goings.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: relisted on. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:56, 19 July 2018 (UTC)


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File:Frankenthaler Helen Mountains and Sea 1952.jpg
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 * <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx ffd-file" id="File:&#39;Where&#39;, 252 x 362 cm. magna on canvas painting by Morris Louis, Hirshhorn Museum and Sculpture Garden, 1960.jpg">File:& ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs])
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 * <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx ffd-file" id="File:Josef Albers&#39;s painting &#39;Homage to the Square&#39;, 1965.jpg">File:Josef Albers& ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs])
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File:Frank Stella&
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 * <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx ffd-file" id="File:Frank Stella&#39;s &#39;Harran II&#39;, 1967.jpg">File:Frank Stella& ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs])
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File:Robert Mangold&
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The result of the discussion was: relisted on. -- Amanda  (aka DQ) 09:08, 4 July 2018 (UTC)


 * <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx ffd-file" id="File:Robert Mangold&#39;s acrylic and pencil &#39;X Within X Orange&#39;, 1981.jpg">File:Robert Mangold& ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs])
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 * <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx ffd-file" id="File:&#39;Red Canvas&#39; by Richard Tuttle, 1967, Corcoran Gallery of Art.jpg">File:& ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs])
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The result of the discussion was: relisted on. -- Amanda  (aka DQ) 09:07, 4 July 2018 (UTC)


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The result of the discussion was: relisted on. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:57, 19 July 2018 (UTC)


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The result of the discussion was: relisted on. -- Amanda  (aka DQ) 09:08, 4 July 2018 (UTC)


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File:Three Flags.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: relisted on. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:57, 19 July 2018 (UTC)


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File:Hot Still-Scape for Six Colors - 7th Avenue Style.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: delete. OK, the blanket "keep" arguments are much too perfunctory to override the NFCC concerns. It is not enough that an image satisfy fair use criteria to stay here; it also needs to comply with the much stricter non-free use policy. It seems like each use violates either WP:NFCC or WP:NFCC so delete it is. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:58, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
 * <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx ffd-file" id="File:Hot Still-Scape for Six Colors - 7th Avenue Style.jpg">File:Hot Still-Scape for Six Colors - 7th Avenue Style.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Jmm6f488 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Excessive non-free use, including galleries. Not all uses satisfy the contextual significance criterion. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:24, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep and all those visual art images below...Modernist (talk) 13:06, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete. These uses are particularly indefensible. Other, free, images of Davis's work are available and none of the uses are accompanied by sourced commentary regarding this particular work. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo). Treated like dirt by many administrators since 2006.   (talk) 16:48, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete None of its current usages discuss the painting in sourced prose so as to create a contextual necessity for illustrating the painting (WP:NFCC#8) where paraphrase alone cannot suffice. It would make sense to keep it in the painter's article if someone were to add in-text and FUR explanation of how the painting is emblematic of his work. czar  21:24, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
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File:For Pearl.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: relisted on. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:58, 19 July 2018 (UTC)


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File:Ferari Fauj.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: relisted on. (non-admin closure) Warm Regards, ZI Jony (talk) 14:38, 25 June 2018 (UTC)


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File:Requiem for a Dream rapid cuts.ogv
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The result of the discussion was: relisted on. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:58, 19 July 2018 (UTC)


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File:Guru (2017 film) Audio.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:01, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
 * <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx ffd-file" id="File:Guru (2017 film) Audio.jpg">File:Guru (2017 film) Audio.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by B.Bhargava Teja ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Soundtrack covers should not be used in film articles as they violate WP:NFCC. Moreover this image also violates WP:WATERMARK. <b style="color: black;">Kailash29792</b> (talk)  05:23, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete: does not satisfy WP:NFCC. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 17:45, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete - in addition to the above, the rationale is claiming it as the primary means of visual identification for the article topic (the film) but it is being used for the soundtrack. --Whpq (talk) 22:32, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:FILMSCORE and WP:NFC. While non-free album covers are generally allowed to be used per item 1 of WP:NFCI, they tend to only be policy compliant when they are used for primary identification purposes in either the main infobox or at the top of a stand-alone article about the album in question. Other types of non-free use typically require a much stronger reason to provide the context required by WP:NFCC. A non-free soundtrack album cover can be used in film articles, but the problem is that such files tend to be simply added for decorative purposes and are never the subject of any sourced critical commentary related to cover art itself. This particular use is no exception to thatand the file should be deleted unless someone wants to create an article about the album and use the image there instead. This type of non-compliant use probably doesn't need an FFD discussion since there is such a strongly established consensus against it, and the file could've been WP:PRODded for deletion instead. Finally, not sure if WP:WATERMARK applies to non-free images so that in and of itself does not seem to be a valid reason to delete. -- Marchjuly (talk) 23:49, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
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File:Little Mix (Live on the Glory Days Tour).png
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:01, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
 * <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx ffd-file" id="File:Little Mix (Live on the Glory Days Tour).png">File:Little Mix (Live on the Glory Days Tour).png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Nevermissu ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

There are other photos of them on Commons, most recently from 2016. Wikipedia routinely uses images which were not taken in the last 12 months, so the fair use rationale does not apply. Jc86035 (talk) 10:06, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete as clearly replaceable with a free image (WP:NFCC). there is no requirement that we must have an image that is recent in an article about a band. -- Whpq (talk) 17:00, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete: does not satisfy WP:NFCC. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 17:45, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:NFCC. Even if there were no freely licensed images of the group currently uploaded to Commons, there's no reasonable reason to expect that one could not be created by someone attending one of th group's performances. This probably should've been tagged with Template:rfu instead of bringing it to FFD. -- Marchjuly (talk) 21:58, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
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File:Fifth Harmony (songwriting).jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:01, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
 * <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx ffd-file" id="File:Fifth Harmony (songwriting).jpg">File:Fifth Harmony (songwriting).jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Nevermissu ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Not necessary, so fails NFCC #1; there are copyleft images of Fifth Harmony and and copyleft images of recording studios. Jc86035 (talk) 12:09, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete: does not satisfy WP:NFCC or WP:NFCC, and the rationale is incomplete. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 17:47, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete: Decorative non-free use which lacks the context required by WP:NFCC. Also, fails WP:NFCC since the reader does not need to see any non-free image to understand where (i.e., what recording studio) the songs were recorded, and what songs were recorded, etc. This kind of information is perfectly understandable per textual content and cited sources per WP:FREER. -- Marchjuly (talk) 22:03, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete decorative use. --Whpq (talk) 22:28, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
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File:Saudi Amb to US with Saudi Fighter Pilots.png
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:01, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
 * <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx ffd-file" id="File:Saudi Amb to US with Saudi Fighter Pilots.png">File:Saudi Amb to US with Saudi Fighter Pilots.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Olivia eliz ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Non-free image fails WP:NFCC. There is no significant sourced commentary about the image nor does the lack of an image detract from the readers understanding of the claimed purpose in the non-free usage rationale of "Showcase the Saudi Amb. to the U.S.'s involvement in Saudi military" Whpq (talk) 13:08, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete: does not satisfy WP:NFCC. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 17:49, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
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File:Saudi Crown Prince and Ambassador to US with Tim Cook at Apple.png
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:01, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
 * <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx ffd-file" id="File:Saudi Crown Prince and Ambassador to US with Tim Cook at Apple.png">File:Saudi Crown Prince and Ambassador to US with Tim Cook at Apple.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Olivia eliz ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Non-free image fails WP:NFCC. There is no significant sourced commentary about the image nor does the lack of an image detract from the readers understanding of the claimed purpose in the non-free usage rationale of "Show link between Saudi Ambassador to U.S. and Saudi Crown Prince, as well as involvement in technology in U.S." Whpq (talk) 13:09, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete: does not satisfy WP:NFCC. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 17:49, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
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File:Saudi Amb to US at Silicon Valley meeting.png
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:01, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
 * <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx ffd-file" id="File:Saudi Amb to US at Silicon Valley meeting.png">File:Saudi Amb to US at Silicon Valley meeting.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Olivia eliz ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Non-free image fails WP:NFCC. There is no significant sourced commentary about the image nor does the lack of an image detract from the readers understanding of the claimed purpose in the non-free usage rationale of "Illustrate Saudi Amb. to US's involvement in Crown Prince's tour around U.S. in 2018" Whpq (talk) 13:10, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete: does not satisfy WP:NFCC. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 17:49, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
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File:Saudi Amb to US in Boeing fighter jet.png
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:01, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
 * File:Saudi Amb to US in Boeing fighter jet.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Olivia eliz ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Non-free image fails WP:NFCC. There is no significant sourced commentary about the image nor does the lack of an image detract from the readers understanding of the claimed purpose in the non-free usage rationale of "Highlights KSA Amb to U.S.'s diplomatic career, including in military/technology" Whpq (talk) 13:10, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete: does not satisfy WP:NFCC. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 17:49, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
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File:Ruth Porat 2016.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:01, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
 * File:Ruth Porat 2016.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by ThaiTee ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

The public domain mark is not an acceptable release and is only to be used on photos that are in the public domain for other reasons. It is not the same as CC0. We don't know why this photo is under the public domain and previous instances of this resulted in deletion. For more information on why we don't consider this acceptable please see the Commons template Majora (talk) 17:28, 10 June 2018 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Comment - It's frustrating because that they are "public domain" is also repeated on the GES website. There are also many pictures from the Department of State that would be more obviously in the public domain as government-created, but I cannot find evidence that this picture is among them. There is an alternative here, which is more clearly marked as the product of the State Dept. photographer, but I cannot find a version that isn't a very small resolution (it would be a better picture than the present one if we could). &mdash; Rhododendrites  <sup style="font-size:80%;">talk \\ 14:32, 11 June 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 15:44, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
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File:Wendelinuskapelle Reimsbach.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Missing evidence of permission. May be undeleted via WP:REFUND once WP:OTRS permission is received - F ASTILY   06:41, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
 * File:Wendelinuskapelle Reimsbach.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Narwaro ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Referral as this is claimed as an 'attribution', but I've not found a clear statement to that effect on the page given as the source. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 19:49, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Also the Google translation of - https://www.pg-beckingen.de/about seems to say non-commerical use only... ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 19:51, 18 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete I think that https://www.pg-beckingen.de/about/ (section "Urheberrecht") says that any use, other than private non-commercial downloading and copying, requires written permission from the rights holders. In other words, this is an unfree file. --Stefan2 (talk) 20:07, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
 * I will explicitly request a written permission to remove any doubts. I will remove the image from the page it is used in for the time being. Cheers, Narwaro (talk) 21:15, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
 * User:Narwaro, see di-no permission-notice for instructions on how to do this. --Stefan2 (talk) 21:38, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
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