Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2018 May 25



Non-free Irish Sea Scout Flags

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The result of the discussion was: delete. The arguments for deletion are stronger, since we have neither proper sources for the files as required by NFCC#10c and NFCC#4 nor is it clear that the strict criteria for WP:NFCC are met. Usually, there needs to be some dedicated discussion of the illustrated object for NFCC#8 to be met, as has been established in a number of other FFD discussions. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 10:26, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
 * File:Sea Scout Ensign (Scouting Ireland).png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Gadget850 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).


 * File:Sea Scout Flag (Scouting Ireland).png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Arklow 1 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).


 * File:National Commissioner& ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Arklow 1 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).


 * File:Sea Scout Pennant (Scouting Ireland).png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Dobriain ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Non-free images of flags being used in a decorative image gallery markup in Sea Scouts (Scouting Ireland). This type of non-free use is almost never allowed as a rule per WP:NFG because the context required by WP:NFCC is almost always lacking. This does not appear to be an exception to that rule, and the little written about the flags is not only unsourced, it doesn't really require the reader see the individual images per WP:NFCC. There is also an issue with WP:NFCC since apparently the same logo/symbol is used on all the flags as File:Sea Scouting Emblem (Scouting Ireland).svg being used in the main infobox, and multiple images of the basically the same symbol is not needed. So, if more sourced content about these flags can be added then perhaps it might be possible to keep one or two of them at the most; otherwise, I suggest delete for all.

Finally, it might also be possible to recreate freely licensed versions of these which are sufficient for identification purposes much like is sometimes done for coats of arms. Most of the individual elements used in these flags look they wouldn't be protected by copyright; for example, there may be images of the Irish flag, an anchor, a Fleur-de-Lis and a shamrock on Commons which can be used to create a reasonable representation of the flag. It's also possible the the entire symbol itself is old enough to be PD which means a non-free file for any of these flags in not needed. -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:19, 14 February 2018 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Realizing there's no stopping you once you go on one of your image deletion sprees, I vote we keep the most representative one.--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 13:52, 14 February 2018 (UTC)
 * WP:RIPPED is not really a justification for non-free use, and the files were only nominated for discussion by me. If they are deleted it will be because the admin who closes the discussion felt the arguments in favoring of keeping the files were insufficient. If you can clarify why you feel all or some of these files meet WP:NFCC and why multiple files are not an issue per WP:NFCC, then you can revise the non-free use rationales accordingly. FWIW, I did look for stuff before starting this nomination, but the organization's official website is down and all you get from searching the images themselves are Wikipedia mirrors. I was able to find this, but the ensign shown in that PDF is different from the one in the article so it doesn't help per WP:NFCC. So, if you know how or where to find such content, then please add it yourself or post it on the article's talk page. -- Marchjuly (talk) 08:54, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep The section is not decorative, it is informing the reader on what the four sea scout flags look like. Also, the flags are and images are very very different....containing the same logo does anot affect that. North8000 (talk) 17:24, 14 February 2018 (UTC)
 * The ensign is of a different design with a different emblem, but the other three are essentially the same logo on the same blue background. They may have different uses and their shape may be different, but there's no sourced article content discussing their uses and there's no sourced article content discussing any difference between the flags; hence, their use is more decorative than contextual. The purpose a non-free image is not to show the reader what something looks like, but to support sourced article content either directly about the image or content whose understanding would be significantly hampered if the image was omitted. If the primary purpose of using these images is to show how the ensign differs from the flag, then three non-free images of flag(s) are not needed for that purpose. If the primary reason for showing three flags is to show the difference between a flag, pennant and a burgee, then no non-free images are not needed to accomplish that. None of the files have a proper sources, so there's no way to tell if they are actually used or just someone's creation, or more importanly to determine their copyright status per WP:NFCC or WP:NFCC. The non-free use rationales for each file just use template bolierplate language which does not address the specifics of each use. There is already a logo being used in the main infobox for primary identification so there's no need for four more to serve that same purpose. What content in that particular section of the article makes it essential for the reader to see four non-free images? If you want to expand and add such content (preferably sourced content) to the article which discusses how the flags are different, then do so and revise the non-free use rationales accordingly. -- Marchjuly (talk) 08:34, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
 * I don't agree, but I think that we'd be going in circles if I carried this sub-thread further. North8000 (talk) 13:45, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep per Kintetsubuffalo. --evrik (talk) 19:18, 14 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete. In direct violation of WP:NFG, WP:NFCC, and WP:NFCC. Four non-free images in a gallery needs a strong policy-based justification to merit their inclusion, and what's provided above certainly doesn't do that. ℯ xplicit 00:31, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
 * I realize that there needs to be some usage to retain the files, but your comment is on a particular usage. North8000 (talk) 13:29, 22 February 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Steel1943  (talk) 21:49, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was: relisted on. czar 14:11, 2 June 2018 (UTC)


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File:Mizwanneka biography.pdf
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted as F10 by AnomieBOT ⚡  12:08, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
 * File:Mizwanneka biography.pdf ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Mizwanneka ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Wikipedia is not a webhost for your personal biography. Also, User:Swarm you approved this user specifically so they could upload this, do you have more information on it? — xaosflux  Talk 02:16, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Additionally, this is a derivative work and the included images large watermark suggests that the upload is not the copyright holder that they are claiming to be. — xaosflux  Talk 02:27, 25 May 2018 (UTC)


 * No...I just interpreted this as "I need to urgently create an article for an assignment." Did not expect them to literally upload an autobiography in pdf form. Lol! Delete per nom. S warm   ♠  03:40, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per the comments above. Also, lol. — <span class="monospaced" style="font-family: monospace, monospace;">usernamekiran (talk)  02:31, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete, orphaned with no obvious value. Salavat (talk) 03:38, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete. Absolutely zero encyclopedic value. Rob3512   chat?   what I did   04:33, 26 May 2018
 * Delete Plain promotion with pdf file, in draftspace as well as in their sandbox. Tagged the rest for speedy deletion. –Ammarpad (talk) 06:52, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:01, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
 * File:Janadhipathi Vidyalaya Matara.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by isaravinda ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Orphan Isaravinda (talk) 12:20, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete, orphaned with no obvious value. Salavat (talk) 03:39, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:01, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
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Orphan Isaravinda (talk) 12:23, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete, orphaned with no obvious value. Salavat (talk) 03:40, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:01, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
 * <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx ffd-file" id="File:Aerotropolis Schematic with Airport City Core.jpg">File:Aerotropolis Schematic with Airport City Core.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Fizix00 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

As this schematic is of a fictional work, it is easily replaceable by having someone create a free schematic of a fictional Aerotropolis (which I am not even sure is a real thing). kelapstick(bainuu) 20:50, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
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